The 3 server locations?

numptybuttkick · May 2013

Is there a thread anywhere that I might have missed showing where the 3 servers are located? Im wondering if theyre all in the US? Or theres a European one?

Reason I ask is, i live in the UK and ive played on Mindflayer and for the most part it seems pretty smooth, but i recently rolled a character on Dragon to group up with a friend, and its lagging as hell for me

Cheers guys.

riven84 · May 2013

Na, na, na.

kimmurieloblodra · May 2013

It's only one server, it's three 'shards' but the same superserver.

It's in California.

nefastaru · May 2013

they are all east coast, boston
[5/7/2013 10:26:13 PM]
208.95.186.71
208.95.186.96

MINDFLAYER:
208.95.186.15
208.95.186.121

BEHOLDER:
208.95.186.187
208.95.186.148

riven84 · May 2013

kimmurieloblodra wrote: »

It's only one server, it's three 'shards' but the same superserver.

It's in California.

LOL & *facepalm*

What the guy above me said, and also, from the FAQ:

(...) we have decided to launch Neverwinter with three shards, to reduce the risk of players having a negative experience due to servers overloading (...)

http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?18401-Neverwinter-Extended-FAQ&p=297631&viewfull=1#post297631

rhoric · May 2013

Are you sure they are east coast. Cause I did an IP lookup and everything I have seen on various lookups all point to California

dominemesis · May 2013

Also their server maintenance is always PST, which would be weird to use if they were in Boston in the east. I would guess NorCal, SoCal, and "somewhere in the middle" Cal.

kimmurieloblodra · May 2013

riven84 wrote: »

LOL & *facepalm*

What the guy above me said, and also, from the FAQ:

http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?18401-Neverwinter-Extended-FAQ&p=297631&viewfull=1#post297631

I used to think you were cool, but now I just think you're a tool.

They are in California. There is only one server. Do your research before you do your petty little online emotes. Moron.

riven84 · May 2013

kimmurieloblodra wrote: »

they are in california.

kimmurieloblodra wrote: »

there is only one server.

lolololoololoolol

Edit: also

kimmurieloblodra wrote: »

you're a tool

kimmurieloblodra wrote: »

Moron.

You're lucky I'm not petty enough to report you

kimmurieloblodra · May 2013

riven84 wrote: »

lolololoololoolol

Cryptic, as an entity, is based in California. Hence, They are in California.

There is only one server. That's self-explanatory.

Pretty sure anyone with half a brain understood what I said by the context, but I shouldn't assume the average forum-goer has an IQ over 50. You obviously prove that assumption is false.

maybe if I add : lololololol, it will help you understand...

immagikman2 · May 2013

Mind Flayer is smoothest because it was last to go live, which means it has the fewest players on it.

riven84 · May 2013

kimmurieloblodra wrote: »

Cryptic, as an entity, is based in California. Hence, They are in California.

There is only one server. That's self-explanatory.

Pretty sure anyone with half a brain understood what I said by the context, but I shouldn't assume the average forum-goer has an IQ over 50. You obviously prove that assumption is false.

maybe if I add : lololololol, it will help you understand...

I posted references. Where's yours?

pboar2006 · May 2013

Do people know how shards are separate from servers?

kimmurieloblodra · May 2013

riven84 wrote: »

I posted references. Where's yours?

Rather not waste my time with someone who is too stupid to type "cryptic" in wikipedia.

/owned

kimmurieloblodra · May 2013

immagikman2 wrote: »

Mind Flayer is smoothest because it was last to go live, which means it has the fewest players on it.

newsflash: Mindflayer is the most populated server

riven84 · May 2013

kimmurieloblodra wrote: »

Rather not waste my time with someone who is too stupid to type "cryptic" in wikipedia.

/owned

How is typing "cryptic" in wikipedia (lol, wikipedia) going to tell me that the 3 Neverwinter shards are in fact one 'superserver'?

Edit: and by '/owned' you are referring to you being owned, yes? Okay, just making sure.

Edit: also, even if wikipedia could tell me this, why would I take wikipedia's information over the official FAQ right here?

rmayhem · May 2013

The company and registration info is definitely CA, but they sure look east coast to me based on traceroute and ping data. I'm in Boston, and I seriously doubt I'd be getting such low ping times to servers in CA. The hop right before the server is bsn.pnap.net (pretty sure bsn = boston).

Tracing route to 208.95.186.15 over a maximum of 30 hops

...
3 G0-10-2-7.BSTNMA-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.189.96]
4 ae0-0.BOS-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.209.86]
5 0.so-0-2-0.XL3.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.16.137]
6 0.xe-10-3-0.GW15.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.21.150]
7 internap-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.134.214]
8 border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.41]
9 perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.61.78]
10 208.95.186.15

Pinging 208.95.186.15 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 208.95.186.15: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=252
Reply from 208.95.186.15: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=252
Reply from 208.95.186.15: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=252
Reply from 208.95.186.15: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=252

Ping statistics for 208.95.186.15:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 12ms, Average = 8ms

pboar2006 · May 2013

riven84 wrote: »

How is typing "cryptic" in wikipedia (lol, wikipedia) going to tell me that the 3 Neverwinter shards are in fact one 'superserver'?

Edit: and by '/owned' you are referring to you being owned, yes? Okay, just making sure.

Going to agree with part of this. Went to Wiki and typed in cryptic and guess what. Nothing about super server. On the Extended FAQ they talk about them planning on the future to be merging to a super server.

kimmurieloblodra · May 2013

riven84 wrote: »

How is typing "cryptic" in wikipedia (lol, wikipedia) going to tell me that the 3 Neverwinter shards are in fact one 'superserver'?

How about you read the thread you quoted, and you will find your answer?

I said owned because the thread you pointed to disproves everything you said in this thread, and you call it your "reference". Also /owned because you are making yourself look like an idiot while trying to dispute commonly known facts.

Also "you're a tool" means "you are a tool".

You failed this thread in so, so many ways I can't even keep track. Maybe you should go back to LoL GD, people are even dumber there and they might not notice how stupid you are.

riven84 · May 2013

rmayhem wrote: »

The company and registration info is definitely CA, but they sure look east coast to me based on traceroute and ping data. I'm in Boston, and I seriously doubt I'd be getting such low ping times to servers in CA. The hop right before the server is bsn.pnap.net (pretty sure bsn = boston). <snip>

Indeed… my average ping is around 100ms from western Europe, which is absolutely impossible to west coast USA, even with my amazing connection.

riven84 · May 2013

kimmurieloblodra wrote: »

How about you read the thread you quoted, and you will find your answer?

I said owned because the thread you pointed to disproves everything you said in this thread, and you call it your "reference". Also /owned because you are making yourself look like an idiot while trying to dispute commonly known facts.

Also "you're a tool" means "you are a tool".

You failed this thread in so, so many ways I can't even keep track. Maybe you should go back to LoL GD, people are even dumber there and they might not notice how stupid you are.

Yeah buddy, for sure. So far you've been proven wrong about everything you've claimed. Keep up the fail, I sure as hell am enjoying it

rhoric · May 2013

Don't know where you get Boston or the east coast. Do an IP location lookup. I ran one again and this is what I get.

208.95.186.15 United States California Los Gatos Cryptic Studios Inc.

riven84 · May 2013

rhoric wrote: »

Don't know where you get Boston or the east coast. Do an IP location lookup. I ran one again and this is what I get.

208.95.186.15 United States California Los Gatos Cryptic Studios Inc.

Registration address, as already mentioned.

kimmurieloblodra · May 2013

rhoric wrote: »

Don't know where you get Boston or the east coast. Do an IP location lookup. I ran one again and this is what I get.

208.95.186.15 United States California Los Gatos Cryptic Studios Inc.

dude, don't even try. The people in here are so ****ing dense you could go to their house and do it for them, they still wouldn't see it.

rhoric · May 2013

riven84 wrote: »

Registration address, as already mentioned.

Sorry but you are wrong. Go to one of the many ip look up sites and they will all point to california. I have used 6 different sites already and it is the samething over and over. CALIFORNIA.

forbiddenlake · May 2013

A whois on an IP won't tell you where the servers are. All it tells you is what the company registering the block put as their info.

A traceroute is a bit more revealing.

traceroute 208.95.186.15

# ...
 8  te3-2.ccr01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.210)  1.588 ms te9-2.ccr02.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.30)  1.546 ms  1.548 ms
 9  te0-2-0-0.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.30)  1.859 ms  1.827 ms te0-6-0-0.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.209)  1.812 ms
10  te0-1-0-0.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.47.233)  7.665 ms te0-6-0-1.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.54)  8.036 ms te0-6-0-1.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.50)  7.889 ms
11  te3-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.46.130)  8.150 ms te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.254)  8.270 ms  8.317 ms
12  * * *

Presumably, bos means boston.

riven84 · May 2013

rhoric wrote: »

Sorry but you are wrong. Go to one of the many ip look up sites and they will all point to california. I have used 6 different sites already and it is the samething over and over. CALIFORNIA.

Registration address.

Edit: as several other people have also pointed out now, a traceroute reveals much more, and also, ping is very telling. Someone in the eastern US isn't going to get ~15ms ping to CA. Someone is western Europe isn't going to get ~100ms ping to CA. Not on residential connections, anyway.

rhoric · May 2013

forbiddenlake wrote: »

A whois on an IP won't tell you where the servers are. All it tells you is what the company registering the block put as their info.

A traceroute is a bit more revealing.

traceroute 208.95.186.15

# ...
 8  te3-2.ccr01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.210)  1.588 ms te9-2.ccr02.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.30)  1.546 ms  1.548 ms
 9  te0-2-0-0.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.30)  1.859 ms  1.827 ms te0-6-0-0.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.209)  1.812 ms
10  te0-1-0-0.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.47.233)  7.665 ms te0-6-0-1.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.54)  8.036 ms te0-6-0-1.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.50)  7.889 ms
11  te3-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.46.130)  8.150 ms te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.254)  8.270 ms  8.317 ms
12  * * *

Presumably, bos means boston.

That is just the route it takes from your computer to the server location and the final ip address does not say boston in it as I did a traceroute also

riven84 · May 2013

rhoric wrote: »

That is just the route it takes from your computer to the server location and the final ip address does not say boston in it as I did a traceroute also

LOL. Are you just trying to make yourself look <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>?

If Boston is the second to last hop or so, the destination isn't going to be CA. Plus, ping values disprove this too, as mentioned.

rhoric · May 2013

Do a traceroute on this ip address 68.146.189.13 and tell me where it is. Then do an ip address lookup from a internet site and then tell me what it says

imivo · May 2013

Dragon is normally fine. Well, 180ms from Europe. After maintenance today I get 280-350ms. Not sure what changed, but I hope it is just a load issue or something else that is temporary.

The 3 server locations?

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