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numptybuttkicknumptybuttkick Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 3 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Is there a thread anywhere that I might have missed showing where the 3 servers are located? Im wondering if theyre all in the US? Or theres a European one?

Reason I ask is, i live in the UK and ive played on Mindflayer and for the most part it seems pretty smooth, but i recently rolled a character on Dragon to group up with a friend, and its lagging as hell for me :(

Cheers guys.
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  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Na, na, na.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's only one server, it's three 'shards' but the same superserver.

    It's in California.
  • nefastarunefastaru Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    they are all east coast, boston
    [5/7/2013 10:26:13 PM]
    208.95.186.71
    208.95.186.96

    MINDFLAYER:
    208.95.186.15
    208.95.186.121

    BEHOLDER:
    208.95.186.187
    208.95.186.148
  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    It's only one server, it's three 'shards' but the same superserver.

    It's in California.

    LOL & *facepalm*

    What the guy above me said, and also, from the FAQ:
    (...) we have decided to launch Neverwinter with three shards, to reduce the risk of players having a negative experience due to servers overloading (...)

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?18401-Neverwinter-Extended-FAQ&p=297631&viewfull=1#post297631
  • rhoricrhoric Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Are you sure they are east coast. Cause I did an IP lookup and everything I have seen on various lookups all point to California
  • dominemesisdominemesis Member Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Also their server maintenance is always PST, which would be weird to use if they were in Boston in the east. I would guess NorCal, SoCal, and "somewhere in the middle" Cal. :p
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    riven84 wrote: »

    I used to think you were cool, but now I just think you're a tool.

    They are in California. There is only one server. Do your research before you do your petty little online emotes. Moron.
  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    they are in california.
    there is only one server.

    lolololoololoolol

    Edit: also
    you're a tool
    Moron.

    You're lucky I'm not petty enough to report you ;)
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    riven84 wrote: »
    lolololoololoolol

    Cryptic, as an entity, is based in California. Hence, They are in California.

    There is only one server. That's self-explanatory.

    Pretty sure anyone with half a brain understood what I said by the context, but I shouldn't assume the average forum-goer has an IQ over 50. You obviously prove that assumption is false.

    maybe if I add : lololololol, it will help you understand...
  • immagikman2immagikman2 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 180 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Mind Flayer is smoothest because it was last to go live, which means it has the fewest players on it.
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  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Cryptic, as an entity, is based in California. Hence, They are in California.

    There is only one server. That's self-explanatory.

    Pretty sure anyone with half a brain understood what I said by the context, but I shouldn't assume the average forum-goer has an IQ over 50. You obviously prove that assumption is false.

    maybe if I add : lololololol, it will help you understand...

    I posted references. Where's yours?
  • pboar2006pboar2006 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 421 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Do people know how shards are separate from servers?
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    riven84 wrote: »
    I posted references. Where's yours?

    Rather not waste my time with someone who is too stupid to type "cryptic" in wikipedia.

    /owned
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Mind Flayer is smoothest because it was last to go live, which means it has the fewest players on it.

    newsflash: Mindflayer is the most populated server
  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Rather not waste my time with someone who is too stupid to type "cryptic" in wikipedia.

    /owned

    How is typing "cryptic" in wikipedia (lol, wikipedia) going to tell me that the 3 Neverwinter shards are in fact one 'superserver'?

    Edit: and by '/owned' you are referring to you being owned, yes? Okay, just making sure. :)

    Edit: also, even if wikipedia could tell me this, why would I take wikipedia's information over the official FAQ right here? ;)
  • rmayhemrmayhem Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The company and registration info is definitely CA, but they sure look east coast to me based on traceroute and ping data. I'm in Boston, and I seriously doubt I'd be getting such low ping times to servers in CA. The hop right before the server is bsn.pnap.net (pretty sure bsn = boston).

    Tracing route to 208.95.186.15 over a maximum of 30 hops

    ...
    3 G0-10-2-7.BSTNMA-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net [130.81.189.96]
    4 ae0-0.BOS-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.209.86]
    5 0.so-0-2-0.XL3.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.16.137]
    6 0.xe-10-3-0.GW15.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.21.150]
    7 internap-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.134.214]
    8 border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.41]
    9 perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.61.78]
    10 208.95.186.15

    Pinging 208.95.186.15 with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 208.95.186.15: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=252
    Reply from 208.95.186.15: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=252
    Reply from 208.95.186.15: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=252
    Reply from 208.95.186.15: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=252

    Ping statistics for 208.95.186.15:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 12ms, Average = 8ms
  • pboar2006pboar2006 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 421 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    riven84 wrote: »
    How is typing "cryptic" in wikipedia (lol, wikipedia) going to tell me that the 3 Neverwinter shards are in fact one 'superserver'?

    Edit: and by '/owned' you are referring to you being owned, yes? Okay, just making sure. :)


    Going to agree with part of this. Went to Wiki and typed in cryptic and guess what. Nothing about super server. On the Extended FAQ they talk about them planning on the future to be merging to a super server.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    riven84 wrote: »
    How is typing "cryptic" in wikipedia (lol, wikipedia) going to tell me that the 3 Neverwinter shards are in fact one 'superserver'?

    How about you read the thread you quoted, and you will find your answer?

    I said owned because the thread you pointed to disproves everything you said in this thread, and you call it your "reference". Also /owned because you are making yourself look like an idiot while trying to dispute commonly known facts.

    Also "you're a tool" means "you are a tool".

    You failed this thread in so, so many ways I can't even keep track. Maybe you should go back to LoL GD, people are even dumber there and they might not notice how stupid you are.
  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    rmayhem wrote: »
    The company and registration info is definitely CA, but they sure look east coast to me based on traceroute and ping data. I'm in Boston, and I seriously doubt I'd be getting such low ping times to servers in CA. The hop right before the server is bsn.pnap.net (pretty sure bsn = boston). <snip>

    Indeed… my average ping is around 100ms from western Europe, which is absolutely impossible to west coast USA, even with my amazing connection.
  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    How about you read the thread you quoted, and you will find your answer?

    I said owned because the thread you pointed to disproves everything you said in this thread, and you call it your "reference". Also /owned because you are making yourself look like an idiot while trying to dispute commonly known facts.

    Also "you're a tool" means "you are a tool".

    You failed this thread in so, so many ways I can't even keep track. Maybe you should go back to LoL GD, people are even dumber there and they might not notice how stupid you are.

    Yeah buddy, for sure. So far you've been proven wrong about everything you've claimed. Keep up the fail, I sure as hell am enjoying it ;)
  • rhoricrhoric Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Don't know where you get Boston or the east coast. Do an IP location lookup. I ran one again and this is what I get.

    208.95.186.15 United States California Los Gatos Cryptic Studios Inc.
  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    rhoric wrote: »
    Don't know where you get Boston or the east coast. Do an IP location lookup. I ran one again and this is what I get.

    208.95.186.15 United States California Los Gatos Cryptic Studios Inc.

    Registration address, as already mentioned.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    rhoric wrote: »
    Don't know where you get Boston or the east coast. Do an IP location lookup. I ran one again and this is what I get.

    208.95.186.15 United States California Los Gatos Cryptic Studios Inc.

    dude, don't even try. The people in here are so ****ing dense you could go to their house and do it for them, they still wouldn't see it.
  • rhoricrhoric Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    riven84 wrote: »
    Registration address, as already mentioned.

    Sorry but you are wrong. Go to one of the many ip look up sites and they will all point to california. I have used 6 different sites already and it is the samething over and over. CALIFORNIA.
  • forbiddenlakeforbiddenlake Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    A whois on an IP won't tell you where the servers are. All it tells you is what the company registering the block put as their info.

    A traceroute is a bit more revealing.
    traceroute 208.95.186.15
    
    # ...
     8  te3-2.ccr01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.210)  1.588 ms te9-2.ccr02.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.30)  1.546 ms  1.548 ms
     9  te0-2-0-0.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.30)  1.859 ms  1.827 ms te0-6-0-0.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.209)  1.812 ms
    10  te0-1-0-0.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.47.233)  7.665 ms te0-6-0-1.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.54)  8.036 ms te0-6-0-1.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.50)  7.889 ms
    11  te3-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.46.130)  8.150 ms te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.254)  8.270 ms  8.317 ms
    12  * * *
    

    Presumably, bos means boston.
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  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    rhoric wrote: »
    Sorry but you are wrong. Go to one of the many ip look up sites and they will all point to california. I have used 6 different sites already and it is the samething over and over. CALIFORNIA.

    Registration address.

    Edit: as several other people have also pointed out now, a traceroute reveals much more, and also, ping is very telling. Someone in the eastern US isn't going to get ~15ms ping to CA. Someone is western Europe isn't going to get ~100ms ping to CA. Not on residential connections, anyway.
  • rhoricrhoric Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    A whois on an IP won't tell you where the servers are. All it tells you is what the company registering the block put as their info.

    A traceroute is a bit more revealing.
    traceroute 208.95.186.15
    
    # ...
     8  te3-2.ccr01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.3.210)  1.588 ms te9-2.ccr02.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.30)  1.546 ms  1.548 ms
     9  te0-2-0-0.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.30)  1.859 ms  1.827 ms te0-6-0-0.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.1.209)  1.812 ms
    10  te0-1-0-0.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.47.233)  7.665 ms te0-6-0-1.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.54)  8.036 ms te0-6-0-1.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.50)  7.889 ms
    11  te3-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.46.130)  8.150 ms te4-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.254)  8.270 ms  8.317 ms
    12  * * *
    

    Presumably, bos means boston.

    That is just the route it takes from your computer to the server location and the final ip address does not say boston in it as I did a traceroute also
  • riven84riven84 Member, Banned Users Posts: 574 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    rhoric wrote: »
    That is just the route it takes from your computer to the server location and the final ip address does not say boston in it as I did a traceroute also

    LOL. Are you just trying to make yourself look <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>?

    If Boston is the second to last hop or so, the destination isn't going to be CA. Plus, ping values disprove this too, as mentioned.
  • rhoricrhoric Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Do a traceroute on this ip address 68.146.189.13 and tell me where it is. Then do an ip address lookup from a internet site and then tell me what it says
  • imivoimivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,682 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Dragon is normally fine. Well, 180ms from Europe. After maintenance today I get 280-350ms. Not sure what changed, but I hope it is just a load issue or something else that is temporary.
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