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asdfqwertys
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 29 Arc User
Please read your **** abilities properly and understand from the early levels that you cant FREEZE BOSSES.
Therefor stop playing your useless Chill abilities or at least if you play them for the trash, READ HOW THE GOD **** ABILITIES WORK.
Signed by another annoyed CW watching so many clueless ones ruining the dungeons.
P.S Stop using stupid knockbacks also.
Had to rage since another CW ruined another dungeon with their clueless powers
Therefor stop playing your useless Chill abilities or at least if you play them for the trash, READ HOW THE GOD **** ABILITIES WORK.
Signed by another annoyed CW watching so many clueless ones ruining the dungeons.
P.S Stop using stupid knockbacks also.
Had to rage since another CW ruined another dungeon with their clueless powers
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Give it a few months, should be better then
If you're a CW and you are dpsing the boss, you're doing something wrong. Every end game boss right now has a billion adds that spawn non-stop. You, the 2 clerics and the GWF should be on all the adds while your rogue solo's the boss. Your job is to use singularity every 10 seconds or less so you and the GWF can AoE them down. Using shield detonate on 6+ mobs will recharge your AP around 50%. So you dump all your AoE on the pack coming out of Sing (about a 50% recharge), then run up and detonate shield. This instantly refills your AP bar and cast Sing again right after. The pack of mobs stay scattered for all of 3 seconds. Rinse and repeat for the entire boss fight.
You're welcome.
Started doing this with my group. Used to wipe with GF involved. Astral seal stacking op. That would be all.
As a GF this post makes me sad.
That is not the kind of thing I'm talking about. Follow the thread from the top. OP is obviously not talking about smart use of powers that knockback. I was responding to that talking about random, clueless use of powers that shoot adds in every direction. But thanks for the super leet tip. You're the super-est.
I am not talking about abuse of powers or about what you should be DPSing, everyone knows CW needs to keep the adds of ze cleric, i am simply talking about basic brain usage.
Example 1 of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> CW: Mys singularity is up, pulling mobs in and then suddenly..ICE STORM, not after they drop, while they are pulled..MAD players.
Example 2 of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> CW and the reason i made this post: Using random abilities all the time, probably switching them around and suddenly i saw a Ray of Frost, and not only the fact he used Ray of Frost, he ddnt channel it, he clicked it for a second and released it then random Repel out of nowhere, sending the mob into a pack of only big elites and no minions bla bla bla.
I am talking about that type of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> CW that doesnt even know how Ray of Frost works AT LEVEL 60.
That said, ran a dungeon with another CW who did this and shield pop constantly, and when people complained he said "lol dps". Funny thing is he was third or fourth, after a GWF.
Eh, some fights it's easy to click the wrong thing or get distracted, or the target goes in the wrong spot (some large bosses seem to drag my target when even part of them is on the screen, no matter where i target.)
Err, if you knockback just before they get sucked up into it the strength of the pull at that point pretty much negates any knockbacks, which is the best time to use those knockback abilities for dmg.
the knockback is a form of control and for boss fights it's required. deal with it, this is how the game was designed.
arcane singularity>shield explosion over and over to keep heat off the cleric(s)
True, but you better be sure you time it right. Obviously, from the OP, these people are not timing it right.
Singularity should be cast to drag adds away from boss and off to the side. Then everyone can fire aoe cc and aoe dps on the whole group and achieve combat advantage easily. Throwing everyone around the room after this setup is just accomplished is really dumb. Again, I don't think we are talking about people who use those powers right, but about people who haven't figured out team boss strategy. Maybe they just don't know, but it doesn't seem too hard to figure out by the time you are say level 20.
Also, even in non-boss fights, CW explode trash all over the room, making an easy fight a needlessly long fight.
Burst alone will not achieve high dps. Constant damage with high burst is key. So if you want to use a power that throws everyone out of everyone's range, it needs to be well timed and well thought out.
If people discuss this respectfully without flaming about it, some people might read it and learn.
4/4 Castle Never legit. 4/4 Shadow Weaver set. 1/2 Ancient Court Magister.
"You know you wanna fondle my dragons."
1) Save the cleric's ***.
2) Make the adds fall to their death.
But I can see where the OP is coming from, Control Wizard, some people fail to notice the control part...
As to chill being useless far from it and I can see where someone might target the boss or his area if other mobs are there to to obtain a longer aoe burn on other mobs in the area. Not sure I follow that part of the rant unless it is in reference to them ignoring adds completely and simply trying to burn the boss down.
Example 1: As mentioned you can use Ice Storm during Singularity without the knockback - Maybe he made a simple mistake and missed the timing, it doesn't mean he is a terrible player because he made a mistake.
Example 2: Did you ever think maybe he was trying to proc Bitter Cold(you may not freeze boss, but you can put 1 chill stack which falls right off, but procs this feat) and Controlled Momentum(again Repel wont CC the boss, but it will proc this feat), for a damage boost? Or just maybe his target got pulled to the wrong mob, that **** happens all the time.
Maybe just maybe you are one of those people who uses a build from the forum someone else designed and then thinks he knows it all, and any player who uses the class differently is bad.
Who knows, maybe this guy doesn't know how to play CW very well.. Maybe you should help him learn it, explain a few things to the guy.. Calling him a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and flipping out telling him he is bad isn't going to do anything other then put him in the mindset where he wants to ignore anything you say - or even do things on purpose to further aggravate you.
On a side note, it pisses me off when I gather the mobs where I want them, have them nicely controlled, then some OTHER class like Cleric or Guardian knocks them all over the place.
Yep...gotta say CWs are not the only ones guilty of this. If they're saving their own skin then it makes sense but nione times out of ten it has nothing to do with that.
Haha just an example I often use my Shield Burst to knock mobs that have managed to escape my pack, back into the pack. Sure it takes practice to get the right distance/angle of a push to land the mobs exactly where you want them, but it is quite valuable. There are so many other uses I can make with this Shield skill, this is just one example. I'm not a huge fan of Repel though because of the distance it knocks back is way to large, I only slot it in Dungeons if it's one where I know I'll be expected to actively knock things in holes, still I prefer shield for this but Repel is a nice backup if I miss one.
Ice Storm, this is a skill I will never use, being that Ice Knife and Singularity ate 1000x superior in every way.
I wish people would understand most are just still learning to play, just because you see one Wizard use knockbacks badly doesn't go and make it a useless strat.
i thought that was self evident
singularity to pull them away, aim your shield explosion to push them even farther away.
this works because (along with oppressive force but you shouldnt be wasting your daily on it) these are the only abilities a cw has without the 7 aoe target limit. a LOT more than 7 adds at a time in epic lair of the pirate king
Yes, what this guy said!!! Instead of playing the shame, blame, your a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> game why don't you give some constructive criticism and use your supposed skill to help others learn the game! I am new to MMORPG gaming and am still learning to play the game, I really do want to learn to become a great CW. I have just come from the Wiki looking for CW and boss info and it is sadly lacking.
Also its not just the CW's who mess up, was in a dungeon run earlier on the boss fight and the GF, both TR and cleric were fighting adds While the boss chased my CW from one end of the room to the other, every time I tried to cast Sing the Boss was on top of me.
Thankyou to all the people who have made constructive posts, they have been very informative. Oh and could someone please start a dictionary for the game as, sometimes I only understand half of what you saying.
Do you realize that singularity "overrides" the knockback effects? If you knock enemies back shortly before they are pulled into the hole, the singularity will suck them in, even if the knockback pushed them away from the hole.
Maybe this player had enough "basic brain usage" to realize this and just missed the timing because of lag?
If you use a knockback spell shortly before they are sucked in, you will have all mobs gathered on one point 2 seconds later, waiting for all the aoes you have left.
If you use a knockback power after they drop, you will throw them all over the place
If i made a post about it, then obviously these players didnt do it correctly...
Do you really believe i would make a post about that if people have been doing it correctly? If you knock the mobs off the singularity pull circle before the last 2 seconds the effect gets cancelled, and people keep doing it much more often lately along with using useless abilities that shouldnt ever be used like Ray of Frost, its not lag, its not anything its useless players that dont even know how there are better abilities to use in dungeons.
If there wasnt a reason, i wouldnt be making the post.