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bridgemonger
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Yep, a bit ranty ---
Today on my CW guess what I did.
I did MD 5-6 times, never succeeded, could not kick dps-ing clerics on the last boss ... or baddies that think killing the dragon is better than adds. And when anyone leaves, guess what, there goes 5-6 attempts on MD Nope. So over it.
Sit in chat, spam all day - and what ensures I don't spend all that time spamming fora group isn't wasted by yet another baddie you can't replace? I leveled past it with my rogue, never got to beat it "normally."
I don't want it easier to beat thanks DeVs - I want to be able to continue on with better people - hopefully and not get stuck with a dps instead of a tank - or tank instead of a cleric.
I spent the first 15 minutes (in 2 groups) giving other players a really bad experience, and it's your fault I kicked them till the group got the appropriate classes. I'm sure they enjoyed waiting 15 minutes OR more- in queue only to be instantly kicked because they didn't fit the groups needs.
Severely disappointing.
Today on my CW guess what I did.
I did MD 5-6 times, never succeeded, could not kick dps-ing clerics on the last boss ... or baddies that think killing the dragon is better than adds. And when anyone leaves, guess what, there goes 5-6 attempts on MD Nope. So over it.
Sit in chat, spam all day - and what ensures I don't spend all that time spamming fora group isn't wasted by yet another baddie you can't replace? I leveled past it with my rogue, never got to beat it "normally."
I don't want it easier to beat thanks DeVs - I want to be able to continue on with better people - hopefully and not get stuck with a dps instead of a tank - or tank instead of a cleric.
I spent the first 15 minutes (in 2 groups) giving other players a really bad experience, and it's your fault I kicked them till the group got the appropriate classes. I'm sure they enjoyed waiting 15 minutes OR more- in queue only to be instantly kicked because they didn't fit the groups needs.
Severely disappointing.
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you want this issue addressed, join a guild, don't PUG. Make friends, invite them along.
Gather 4 guildies, walk to instance, ????, Profit
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Seriously
I'm going to have a party alone.
the next best thing would be to actually kill the guy in the queue that's broken, only to have loot ninja'd because the loot is broken too.
It's beyond frustrating.
I'd also suggest trying to explain certain things to people, especially DPS. If i'm a new DPS'er I go after big things, or at least when I was new to MMOs, and didn't know what ADDS were. Remember to be polite when offering advice after a wipe to any player in your group and this issue should quickly become moot as more players learn the fights.
You'll always get bad apples at some point, it's inevitable, it's really all down to how you handle the situation.
Not that hard to find in game friends to run Dungeons, it beats pugging all to hell.
All MMOs have bugs. This is a beta, as stated, they are working on the bugs. The best thing to do is report any bug you find so they can try and fix them.
The early parts of an MMO release, whether it's beta or official launch, is going to have bugs. As an early adopter you'll be the one that helps find the bugs best.
They simply cannot find every bug in the game through a closed testing process, it's impossible.
I would agree with this to an extent, but - only being a week into the open beta - there are soooo many people spaming and - personally while leveling - I'd be much happier if I did not feel forced - to sit there and try to find a group (and not questing) to do a dungeon I am rapidly out growing.
Yes, sure I get it. I know. But - you know I like the queue that allows me to hit the button and quest. I have done that in many other games. never had this kind of problem in any of them. Cant' say that I played in too many betas- except for that large one with 8.3 million people. But -
This seems like a really bad thing to not address -queue and loot - seeing how it's so frustrating.
I know i'm not the only one.
and you were are totally right, it's amazing fun and so easy to accomplish in the flipping screen of in game ranting about prices, open beta, and ninja loot
I really hope management is watching game chat in lots of zones. Maybe it will help someone get a clue.
listen if all the cleric is doing, is dps-iing, then they aren't healing correctly. I didn't pug a group I queued a group. I know clerics have a heal big blue shiny beam, and the stupid ones that never use it on anyone once on MD, they are not doing it right. I don't want to waste my time on the dungeon anymore -- will it help me get to 60 faster, no- look at all the time I have wasted on it thus far. I do not like skipping content and I have don't it twice now and I blame the broken queue. Because I would stay in there all day till I got people not so dumb, they could succeed.
YOu must be right, there cannot be any poor players that are clerics, and there is now way that I can have any sort of awareness at all about what the cleric isn't' doing. it's all me.
much like I wiped 10 times on the first boss in the queue for halls of flesh rending before I killed it. When people left, they got replaced. get it? and it took 5 hours to clear, that was first day though. But you're right ilm some psshhh poor player, that just likes to imagine everything is someone else fault. IT's not you, it's me.
You sir fail, you obviously have NOT que'd very often. Nothing says WIN like a T2 instance that you get 2 CW's and 3 TR's in group from the que....
Very real problem the Que IS broken, it does NOT make balanced groups capable of completing the instance very often.
Very real problem, you can NOT replace someone after you've engaged a boss, you can't replace the fail, the ninja, the DC, the AFK'r or the HAMSTER-hat.
Now the mechanic of the Dragon is just a pita, one trick though is to not use pets and keep melee off the boss, anyone/thing gets hit by the sword/boss CC = more shadow wolves...
Join a guild.
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If I really cared about it, I'd try to join a guild and go with people I know, but I don't. I'll just play the rest of the game, but its that much sooner I'll get bored. There are a lot of people who expect this type of content access, and will stop playing if it doesn't at least allow player replacement. While that might not affect some of you, it is a concern for the games longevity.
Bro you have combined two different boss mechanics from two different fights.
You have absolutely no idea how DC's need to heal. This isn't wow or some other MMO where you have a dedicated tank and healer that is required to do dungeons. You can clear most t1's and some t2's without one or the other. Use your **** health pots that's what they are there for and why they are on like a 15 second CD. The queuing system may be broken but don't blame bad pugs and or your bad play style on PWE.
Have you even done EPIC mad dragon or wolf den. That be some epic nerve wracking ****. Yeah it's doable fo sho but it's not a snooze fest hold down left mouse button so don't kid yourself.
Okay first off... PuG = Pick Up Group... When you Queue for a dungeon thats what you are doing Its PuGing. Now as for clerics using their "big blue shiny beam" you mean Soothing Light and guess what? It's a divinity power and the easiest way to build it up is to DPS. When a Cleric tosses AS on a target they get the golden ring around them, if you hit that target guess what you get healed, when they use sacred flame it gives everyone in its buff range a nice amount of Temp HP. The only real direct healing ability is Healing word, which only has three counters on it and while it does heal its not that amazing. Its a regen effect is all... If you'd want the cleric to only use that and Soothing Light you'd never get anywhere.
I'm not saying that there are not any poor players, there are actually quite a few. Reading the general forum will show you that. What I meant was that a Cleric needs to DPS to be an effective healer. I never once said it was you, you might be good you might be terrible. Haven't grouped with you so you need to calm down. Not everything is an attack. I was trying to educate you on how the cleric class mechanic works.
The best advice I can offer is find a guild, PuGing groups is a hard hard thing to deal with. You are gonna have ignorant players and good players... normally the ignorant out weigh the good.
I don't know about epic. Nor do I know if I will find out at this point, but as far as regular goes ...
a TR and a CW now have leveled past that queue MD TR is leveled past both MD and GWD but has been to each a few times. happened in the space of one day with the TR.
So the only hope I have of a good working queue is to join a guild? Okay, that fixes the broken queue. Sheesh, what was I thinking.
To me- chat channels are PuGs, Queues are not. Potato - patatoe
I say, it's not a real achievement.
I'm a grumpy old *******. I dont mind helping, long as one doesn't appear to be helpless t begin with, and actually whenever I catch a simple answer, I shoot it out there. but my idea of reasonable fun -in game- is not spamming chat for groups nor being forced to join a guild before I hit level cap. I joined one on my TR just because I got spammed with an invite- and I dont like spamming guild for groups either, it's like spamming guild to ask people to buy something, or help me get a mount guys, I need gold. I put LFG out there once and if nothing seems to be happening I go on about my way.