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Protector Enclave Lag is TERRIBLE
russellgusto
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It was fine in closed beta but now anywhere around the AH or crier it's just a slide show for me. The other areas not that bad. Does anyone know if they are working on a fix for these areas?
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I even proved it's not the servers or internet connection because engineers can craft Gnomish X-Ray Goggles! Upon equipping these goggles, it undresses *ALL* players I see on screen! Yes! I see everyone in their underwear, it's hilarious, but whenever I do this, my FPS rises to 45-60 FPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So it has to be the same thing for PE! I get 60 FPS everywhere in Neverwinter, but the moment I head back to PE and ride to an area with 10 to 30+ players on screen, I drop under 30 FPS!
It's been reported several times, no lag though, just a huge drop in frames once in Protector's Enclave
Hasn't been addressed or at acknowledged yet, afaik...hope the devs did notice.
While it is the obvious to upgrade the machine it does not seem quite true with Neverwinter.
Sure lacking power can be the issue but once you can exclude hardware it most certainly is an issue with the software.
I'm on a high-end PC and so are others who reported framedrops down to 20fps or even lower in Protector's Enclave.
Monitoring CPU and GPU load it barely touches 50%, something's not right.
I even moved the client files to an SSD to exclude HDD I/O bottlenecks, still the same result.
Pretty sure the dev team will tweak performance down the road, just a question of when
And if it is not already seen the game ? I think it is normal the game is hosted in america
Are you running on an Intel machine, perhaps? I hear those with high-end Intel chips have less of an issue, though not completely smooth either.
I don't know why this is, but it sucks. I'd like to make a thread suggesting that they allow us to scroll the camera in and out WITHOUT going into inspect mode, but at the moment it's impossible to suggest anything without it being buried under a wave of children crying about the high prices in the cash shop.
It will be nice when the casuals and kids finally get bored of the game and move onto something else, so the rest of us actually get our tone on the soapbox to discuss LEGITIMATE issues and offer productive feedback about changes we'd like to see that aren't "Please make the mount $5 or less, that's all my parents will let me charge on their credit card."
EDIT: Left a parenthesis open. Relevant XKCD.
Frame rates will jump from 150 to 13...lol
Everybody always thinks issues like this are because the person has a crappy pc, 95% of the time that's not the case. The game just isn't optimized.
It does have to do with the quality of their PCs in many instances. I'd say 95% of the time it is the case. Most people aren't running Tri SLI (or even SLI or Crossfire at ALL), most people don't have an overclocked i7 (they don't make one that's 4.2ghz stock) either because they don't realize how easy overclocking is now or they're worried about longterm cpu damage. Most people still have 4-8gb of ram. I bet you didn't list it but I can see from your PC's parts you're a bit of an aficionado, so you probably have a RAID controller and at least a pair of hard drives running in array (possibly even solid state depending on how recently you did your build), most people don't have that either.
My PC's about on par with yours (though a smidge less beefy), i5 3750(3750K I think) @ 4ghz, Radeon 7950 x2 in Crossfire, 8gb of ram (clocked at 2333mhz), 4 SATA drives in array (I have a good raid controller with its own processor too, none of that on-board software RAID garbage), and my experience is about the same as yours, the frame rate jumps between 20-75 (75hz is the highest refresh rate available on my monitor so that's where I have the framelimit set).
So yeah, you're right, it's not because our PCs aren't good enough.
But you SHOULD know that most people don't have PCs like these two. :P Even people who do self-build systems usually tend to buy "budget" parts (Radeon HD7750 instead of 7950, lol, I'll never understand it as long as I live).
The game just isn't optimized. << This.
Athlon II @ 3GHz, 8GB RAM, GTX560 video card w/ 1 GB RAM, Win7 64-bit... 50-60 fps outside of PE, 30-40 at the altar or AH...It's not only the game.
Not a fix. Performance issues remain for high end PC users whether the instance has 2 people or 200.
Many people can't see the difference between 30fps and 60fps (or can barely see one). Perhaps you fall into that category.
Personally I can see a difference between 60 and 75fps, and can sure as hell notice a difference between 25 and 60-75.
If you want to see your framerate so you can see what we're talking about, type /fpsgraph 1 ingame to see a graphical representation of your FPS over time. This will make it highly noticeable the difference between Protector's Enclave and literally every other zone in the game.
The problem lies within the optimization of the game's code. There's something about PE that causes it to render in a highly ineffective manner compared to the rest of the zones (has something to do with the amount of buildings/trees/objects in the FOV, as I explained earlier, the issue will stop if you zoom the camera all the way to your back, effectively decreasing the number of things that are "in view" and therefore rendered).
Btw we should probably compare our in-game video settings.
I've maxed out everything, except 4x AA (didn't see much of a visual difference going higher) and running on DX 11 beta. Its default settings are running on DX 9, however the game is running a lot smoother (and looks more appealing too) in DX 11 beta.
Almost exact settings but run in Full Screen Mode
Is it time to put this PC to pasture? Thoughts?
It seems to help most. Those that still have a problem may very well have a different issue. Any 'lag' I experience is fixed by changing to a low pop instance. There are obvious issues with instances that have over 140 players. For one thing there is the bug that leaves dozens of companions sitting at each exit. And that is from players that aren't even in the town instance anymore. Add to the ones that are.
To me its a minor issue though. I don't seem to have any lag at all unless their is at least 100 players in the zone. As for now there are tons of low pop instances to switch to. Hoping they get it sorted out before they combine the servers though.
Latency overall is caused by something you might not expect, most would assume that download bandwidth determines ping time and while this is partially true the biggest cause of it is not enough upload bandwidth, or rather upload bandwidth being used by something else on the system/network at the player's end. The reason for this is simple.
When you play, the game sends your computer messages, that asks "is it OK to send more data", your computer then sends a message back that says "yes send more", this keeps going on and on. well problem is if something is slowing that message exchange down then the transfer stops, and it's usually on the client's end because the game server is most likely on a huge internet pipe and not subject to much lag.
For those with limited upstream bandwidth there are things you can do to minimize this, mainly disable and background or active programs that use upload bandwidth, file sharing, certain chat clients etc. that will maximize your available bandwidth at any one time. The other solution unfortunately isn't available to all, and that's get more upload bandwidth from your own or a different provider, but sometimes that costs money.
I used to have lag when playing the other cryptic games while I was on the local cable company's internet with a 1.5 Mbps upload, and since I have 3 roommates each with their own computer system gaming was lagged because well sometimes more than 1 were gaming at a time, not good with limited bandwidth. Luckily we contacted the local fiber optic provider and got a 25 Mbps upload bandwidth for the same price as we were paying for the 1.5 from cable. long story short, haven't experienced any lag since then even though one roommate actually runs a website server from the home.
Also in if this is not an option there is one thing in the game settings you can do to minimize lag. Well actually it's in the launcher under options check the "disable on-demand patching" this will keep the game from trying to download new content in the background while playing and only do so when you use the launcher.
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Hope this advice helps
yeah, its not the PC , I too have a high-end laptop and the connection was fine until the recent major patch, my ping rate was just on 50-100 then it went to 400-2000...i hope they fix it soon or devs should just put up another server.