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Exploiters banned

hate90hate90 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I would like to ask the community manager: how long does it take for the support to ban exploiters that crash other people game clients to gain advantage in PvP ? I've sent ticket to support with screens of player <name removed>, who deliberately uses that exploit saying "they won't ban me because it is beta" and still waiting for reaction. Why do you tolerate such behaviour ?
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited May 2013
    . . . . . PWE is actively banning exploiters, so don't listen to the guy. Please make sure you're reporting their @handle in game (not just their character name) through the proper GM Help menu (not the Bug Report Menu or forum Support Page).

    . . . . . You can do this by pressing H (by default) then press GM Help and choose Behavior then fill out the fields. To get the user's @handle, either right-click their name in chat or walk up to them and press F (interact).

    . . . . . You may be pleased to know however, that this exploit is being fixed in this morning's patch. We cannot allow named accusations on the forums, whether they are true or not, so I have edited that out of your post.
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  • rethophisrethophis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 71
    edited May 2013
    zebular wrote: »
    . . . . . PWE is actively banning exploiters, so don't listen to the guy. Please make sure you're reporting their @handle in game, you can do this by pressing H (by default) then press GM Help and choose Behavior then fill out the fields. We cannot allow named accusations on the forums, whether they are true or not.

    . . . . . You may be pleased to know however, that this exploit is being fixed in this morning's patch.
    Very well-done :) .
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  • mickst3rmickst3r Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lol it is not an exploit, it's a technical error at most that the developers need to fix.

    You cannot possibly say someone is exploiting because he is using his class skills to kill u.
  • kimoy8520kimoy8520 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    :eek: So I was actually a victim of that exploit. I should have saved those names.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited May 2013
    mickst3r wrote: »
    lol it is not an exploit, it's a technical error at most that the developers need to fix.

    You cannot possibly say someone is exploiting because he is using his class skills to kill u.
    . . . . . Using a known bug to gain an advantage is exploiting game mechanics. If they're doing it intentionally and bragging about it, then they are doing it maliciously. This is bannable no matter how you color it.
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  • tfangeltfangel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    zebular wrote: »
    . . . . .
    . . . . . You may be pleased to know however, that this exploit is being fixed in this morning's patch. We cannot allow named accusations on the forums, whether they are true or not, so I have edited that out of your post.

    This is very good to know, i wanted to pvp, but every time i did, i was targeted as a CW with that and kept getting booted. :\ One battle it was the same guy three times, and that was the first time i've reported someone. Glad it's being fixed though, will be more freeing to just have fun in pvp now. :)
  • gothmogigothmogi Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 22
    edited May 2013
    My system froze lke 5 times today on PVP; dint know until not much ago it was a exploit, I wish I would have reported them.
  • ninjajoeninjajoe Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    To be honest how are you to know this was an exploit? If you do not read the forums or have zone chat turned off how are you to know? Are you going to punish those people for using a viable pvp skill?
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited May 2013
    ninjajoe wrote: »
    To be honest how are you to know this was an exploit? If you do not read the forums or have zone chat turned off how are you to know? Are you going to punish those people for using a viable pvp skill?
    . . . . . Such would be handled on a case-by-case basis. They have logs of everything, your chat, your actions and so on, so they should be able to easily tell who is doing this maliciously and intentionally and who is not. Using the first post as an example, if they're bragging about it in chat like the OP says, then the evidence is right there for PWE to see.
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  • tfangeltfangel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ninjajoe wrote: »
    To be honest how are you to know this was an exploit? If you do not read the forums or have zone chat turned off how are you to know? Are you going to punish those people for using a viable pvp skill?

    From what i read it was a combination of skills in a set order, that caused the trouble. Something to do with dazed along with smoke bomb. Doing it by accident can happen, but when your team keeps getting booted from the match over and over, you know something is up.
  • toadoflickingtoadoflicking Member Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I would hope that Cryptic isn't yet resorting to bans for things like this so much as suspensions. In any case, anyone who uses "this is beta" as an excuse is missing the point. Yes, it's open beta. But, in that case, if you discover an exploit, then your responsibility is to submit a bug report and bring it to the team's attention. Then, you never use it again.
  • imivoimivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,682 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    ninjajoe wrote: »
    To be honest how are you to know this was an exploit? If you do not read the forums or have zone chat turned off how are you to know? Are you going to punish those people for using a viable pvp skill?

    It requires more than to simply use a single skill to crash the client of your opponent. There are few cases where I think anyone would do the steps required for this in the course of playing the game legitimately. Chances are that every time you crashed in PvP, the other person did it deliberately.
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  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 1
    edited May 2013
    Is it truly just the skills combo? because I've been boot right out of zones before too, oddly nowhere near a door and not in pvp.
  • nitemarex87nitemarex87 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    well lets not just hit on the pvp bans, and lets talk about the fact that PWE won't even let someone know about their ban, no email, no anything. I agree if those of us who used a slight oversight of the devs with the Foundry get banned, without notice of any sort, these "exploiters" should as well. It's a constant thing to watch rogues do this that know it d/cs you. I've watched rogues d/c my whole team and then just camp the points. Relog, go back in, d/c again. This is an exploit, and every single one of them should be dealt with in the same manner regardless of if they were doing it maliciously or not. I know us foundry exploiters were. At least give someone a notice, and stop dragging your feet PWE I know you guys are better than this, I've dealt with your customer service team in the past, well at least cryptics, about account issues, with CO. Fix this ASAP, and at least let people know they are banned before they go to do pvp with buddies, and find they are banned the hard way, not a good example, and not a good way to keep paying customers playing.
  • scrybatogscrybatog Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just a quick heads up, they are not making any where near enough money to have people looking through logs of every rogue that gets reported... where exactly is the money to pay thousands of GM's salraies coming from? The 17 people that bought founders packs? LOL
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    scrybatog wrote: »
    Just a quick heads up, they are not making any where near enough money to have people looking through logs of every rogue that gets reported... where exactly is the money to pay 17 GM's salraies coming from? The thousands of people that bought founders packs? LOL

    fify

    /tenchar
  • scrybatogscrybatog Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kimmurieloblodra wrote: »
    fify

    /tenchar

    LOl regardless they arent getting banned, just like im not getting banned for getting my CW 1-60 today, not my fault the first Foundry I tried to go play happened to have ogres in a hole...
  • nitemarex87nitemarex87 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    your bans are coming im sure, and this is coming from someone who used that foundry map with ogres in a whole for 5 levels, and well im sitting without an account with over 1000 bucks spent on this game already. So I hope your day is coming soon.
  • scrybatogscrybatog Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    EVERYONE was doing it up until an hour ago, zone chat was spammed like mad... If you really got banned you wouldnt be able to post troll, but nice try.
  • nitemarex87nitemarex87 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    this is actually a made account just so i can post on the forums, my actual account is banned
  • kina1991kina1991 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'v reported 2 exploiters in skirmish pvp that were somehow in our spawn point near fire, and healing themselves making them impossible to kill and just harassing us as we spawn, nothing we could do about it and i doubt that it was planed for enemy team to get there.
    -_-
  • enderlin50enderlin50 Member Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kina1991 wrote: »
    I'v reported 2 exploiters in skirmish pvp that were somehow in our spawn point near fire, and healing themselves making them impossible to kill and just harassing us as we spawn, nothing we could do about it and i doubt that it was planed for enemy team to get there.
    -_-

    Yep, two Trickster Rogues teleported up to our spawn and since they can do 1/2 your hp in one attack they both synced up and kept dropping people as they spawned.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • hopeless2hopeless2 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 73
    edited May 2013
    kimoy8520 wrote: »
    :eek: So I was actually a victim of that exploit. I should have saved those names.

    You need to be very considerate of what is an exploit. This is just a skill rogue use that might crash your game. I use this skill because it's outstanding. Maybe I have been crashing other people. I wouldn't know if that happens.

    I'm not even sure what the exploit is all about, but I guess smoke bomb??
  • scrybatogscrybatog Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    hopeless2 wrote: »
    You need to be very considerate of what is an exploit. This is just a skill rogue use that might crash your game. I use this skill because it's outstanding. Maybe I have been crashing other people. I wouldn't know if that happens.

    Too bad, with this community being a good gamer is taboo, your getting banned.
  • nitemarex87nitemarex87 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    my only complaint about the ban hammer coming out is the fact that we aren't be told how long for or sent the email that it states in the support page we would receive. Please give me some information here, that way at least I can see if I have a leg to stand on, and at least file an appeal against it. Not telling someone what they did is just bad for business.
  • hopeless2hopeless2 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 73
    edited May 2013
    kina1991 wrote: »
    I'v reported 2 exploiters in skirmish pvp that were somehow in our spawn point near fire, and healing themselves making them impossible to kill and just harassing us as we spawn, nothing we could do about it and i doubt that it was planed for enemy team to get there.
    -_-

    This is bad map design by the map creators. Since rogue can teleport to people with 'Deft Strike'. I'm not sure if it's a bug or not but TR can also backstab port over bridges.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited May 2013
    scrybatog wrote: »
    Just a quick heads up, they are not making any where near enough money to have people looking through logs of every rogue that gets reported... where exactly is the money to pay thousands of GM's salraies coming from? The 17 people that bought founders packs? LOL
    Considering we had thousands of players in the Founder-Only beta, I'd say that it's slightly more than 17. ;)
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  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kina1991 wrote: »
    I'v reported 2 exploiters in skirmish pvp that were somehow in our spawn point near fire, and healing themselves making them impossible to kill and just harassing us as we spawn, nothing we could do about it and i doubt that it was planed for enemy team to get there.
    -_-

    Are you kidding me?

    GWF can just use his jump to get up there, TR deft strike, etc... .... if anything, report it as a bug, that skills/abilities shouldn't allow you to jump up to the spawn.

    Don't report the players, LoL ....
  • hopeless2hopeless2 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 73
    edited May 2013
    scrybatog wrote: »
    Too bad, with this community being a good gamer is taboo, your getting banned.

    I find it laughable if they did ban people for using a skill. Unless there is a specific combination of skills which ALWAYS crashes other players.
  • nitemarex87nitemarex87 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    zeb come on how long are the bans for. I'd like to know when I can log back in on my CW
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