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Hero of the North founder pack lacking
nomminguz
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So i purchased the hero of the north pack because it looked amazing, after purchasing i figured out there is only really 3-4 things that are actually worth buying the pack and the rest is lacking...
first up, the things that are actually really good about the pack...
Diamonds, lots of them, not as much as you would hope for given how much we paid and the exchange rate on AD-Zen but a decent amount still i guess...
Armored spider mount, removes so much of the wait between getting to lvl 20 and getting your first mount then having to train to lvl 3.
Delzoun treasure chest, still havent hit 60 so im not sure if this is actually great or not given RNG or what items can actually come out of it, are they completely random or am i guaranteed something for my class?
VIP access to the game, while this would come in handy if the servers were ever under a queue, i've never experienced one yet but time will tell...
Greycloaks Legacy, great way to start off your adventure wish the weapon would scale with level but i understand why it wouldnt
as for the rest, couple of cosmetic stuff that is pretty much normal in these types of packs then you come to the lacking parts...
The panther, attacks so slowly and is quite far from an ideal companion pet unless you wanna roleplay as a drow trickster rogue and call yourself Drizzt... (i know he isnt really a rogue but its the closest class you'll get to him in this game...) needs a lot of love to bring it up to the level where it should be at considering the price we pay to get it...
the VIP room in the moonstone mask, there is nothing in there... at all... it should have at the very least special vendors where we could get discounts on potions or kits, maybe special vendors with lvl 60 blue items that are exclusive to hero of the north purchasers or even vendors with cosmetic items to change the look of your armor past just the color... anything would be great in there, anything is better than nothing!
couple of other niggly little things not really worth mentioning in here, but those 2 things are half of the reason i purchased the pack in the first place and it'd be great to see a mention on if something is being done to improve on them or what the go is...
please no flaming or trolling, this is my opinion and i am entitled to it as are you all, have some respect in your responses
first up, the things that are actually really good about the pack...
Diamonds, lots of them, not as much as you would hope for given how much we paid and the exchange rate on AD-Zen but a decent amount still i guess...
Armored spider mount, removes so much of the wait between getting to lvl 20 and getting your first mount then having to train to lvl 3.
Delzoun treasure chest, still havent hit 60 so im not sure if this is actually great or not given RNG or what items can actually come out of it, are they completely random or am i guaranteed something for my class?
VIP access to the game, while this would come in handy if the servers were ever under a queue, i've never experienced one yet but time will tell...
Greycloaks Legacy, great way to start off your adventure wish the weapon would scale with level but i understand why it wouldnt
as for the rest, couple of cosmetic stuff that is pretty much normal in these types of packs then you come to the lacking parts...
The panther, attacks so slowly and is quite far from an ideal companion pet unless you wanna roleplay as a drow trickster rogue and call yourself Drizzt... (i know he isnt really a rogue but its the closest class you'll get to him in this game...) needs a lot of love to bring it up to the level where it should be at considering the price we pay to get it...
the VIP room in the moonstone mask, there is nothing in there... at all... it should have at the very least special vendors where we could get discounts on potions or kits, maybe special vendors with lvl 60 blue items that are exclusive to hero of the north purchasers or even vendors with cosmetic items to change the look of your armor past just the color... anything would be great in there, anything is better than nothing!
couple of other niggly little things not really worth mentioning in here, but those 2 things are half of the reason i purchased the pack in the first place and it'd be great to see a mention on if something is being done to improve on them or what the go is...
please no flaming or trolling, this is my opinion and i am entitled to it as are you all, have some respect in your responses
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VIP was great on the 30th, most people had upwards of a 1 hour wait and I was able to get in in about 15 seconds.
Greycloaks Legacy weapon will last you till around 30-35 then you'll want to find something with higher damage.
Panther sucks, only reason I could see that we werent able to use it in any of the closed beta's.
Bonus is that the companion will be there for every character you create (up to 50 for the account), or maybe it isnt a bonus.
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Hmm..you bought the pack on yr own accord. All the items u get are as listed. Nothing more or less.
Now u regret the purchase, its not the pack fault. You made the choice.
But i agree that the VIP lounge is a vapourware. There is nothing at all inside.
What happened here?
That is a worthless reply and adds nothing to the conversation. Not only is it worthless but it is totally wrong. It is the packs fault that we regret the purchase. That is the issue. We do not regret supporting the game as early adopters. We regret being very underwhelmed by how they rewarded the early adopters. Of course it was our choice to purchase it. That whole statement was just silly.
The fact is the Hero of the North Founders pack is very lacking and needs work. I purchased it thinking the items it came with were better than they are. These are people that are supporting the game before it launches. We have that much faith in your vision for the game. We are the people that have opinions that matter. We are the ones that spend the money which is what this whole thing is about. We are simply asking that you take another look at the Hero of the North founders pack. Presently I have to recommend to my friends NOT to buy any of the founders packs. Not because the game isn't good. Only because I am very disappointed in the work that was put into making this an exceptional experience for early supporters that it should be.
Hopefully you care enough about our opinion to look over it again.
As i said, no regrets no anger just disappointment and hope that they will fix these things up for us and help us further enjoy the game to which we put our money
Well I didn't buy a pack, I bought the zen instead to pick what I wanted. I'd love to have the spider mount. Please PWE/CRYPTIC put the spider mount in zen shop so I can buy it. It's not fair that I would have to buy a $200 pack to get the only item in it that I actually want. I demand more for my zen than just what's currently available. Also, due to exchange rate fluctuations for Zen - AD conversions, I am also requesting 450k AD's added to my account for my underselling my zen.
oh yeah. almost forgot. +1 for troll thread
More importantly, I'm happy that I was able to support the devs and cant wait to get more out of this game as time goes on.
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I cannot imagine if i am the boss of a shop, and all customers return to demand more for stuff they have bought out of their free will and items received exactly as stated.
well technically since they are dudes its topless waiters .
Gtfo please... this isnt a QQ elitist blah blah blah thread its a thread to hopefully get the developer to support the people that actually cared enough about the game to purchase the hotn pack what we deserve... good on you for buying zen, i have as well and i will continue to as long as the game is populated enough to make it worth it...
If you didnt buy the pack your opinion is invalid, if you did but liked what you got then good on you...
As for buying it knowing exactly what we were getting? Thats a load of HAMSTER.. the founders page gives a vague description at best and no specific information on a lot of the items at worst...
You mean the 'Sea of a Thousand Truths'? Yes, it is getting filled up, down there.
Neverwinter packs could have been empty for all I care,it's the game I really want,not the extras.However it does clearly state what the packs include.
But yeah,I respect your opnion if you respect mine.
I have clearly stated many times now, this isnt a complaint thread or a "QQ i want more" thread (good amount of stuff included imho) more of a constructive feedback thread...
The main issues i have bought up are that of the "VIP" room which is completely empty, and the companion that SHOULD be a lot better than it is...
I love the game and i am very happy with the majority of the pack and i am not regretting me decision to support the development by purchasing the hotn pack 1 bit, just want to see these 2 things fixed up to what they should be...
LMFAO. You sir are the typical elitist here and that comment is all anyone browsing this needs to read. That is the point. You are obviously a fool. I choose not to buy the HoTN or Guardian pack due to there being BETTER options for me by going the zen route over purchasing a pack. Of which, you clearly state you are disappointed in. I, on the other hand, can clearly read what I am buying, and based on that, make an intelligent and informed decision on what to purchase.
As for supporting the game, sorry, fail again. The packs are nothing compared to what some people are forking over in zen to buy keys to unlock lockboxes. So, what about these people? What about myself? where is our "over and above" compensation for spending more money than you clearly did? And a bonus for not griping about it later.
/facepalm for obvious ignorance
however, thank you for keeping this game F2P for everyone else.
Minus the fact that I have 5 characters each one with a 30~ dollar mount and a 30~ dollar companion. Plus an assorted array of other bonuses available to every single one of my characters... Not exactly sure where you're coming from thinking you got a good deal...
Current exchange rate (as of 5:15 AM PST 5/7/13) is approx 388 AD per Zen. This comes out to your AD 5154 Zen for a conversion to approx $51.54. This price will only increase as the zen becomes weaker.
$50
Currently it cost 2,832,000 AD to get a level 3 mount. This at the exchange rate of the current (better for you prices) of 388 comes out to 7398 zen which is about $73.98
$74
The item that drops from this is usually about around a t2 purple from what I've seen. On average those go for approx 2,000,000 yet again coming out to another $51.54.
Also with this comes a brilliant weapon enchant which assuming that 64 lessers -> 16 normal -> 4 greater -> 1 briliant your looking at around 500,000 for the cheapest lesser. you get 1 brilliant, and assuming perfect fusions every time thats 64 * 500000 = 32,000,000 = $824.75. We wont include this as i expect this to drop drastically but its still quite a bit
$50
Ill agree with you on this for now, but rumor has it there may only be one shard when the game comes out, so idk. Well see though, you could be right.
Um keep in mind the panther is a purple level pet that most wont get to see for a very long time and even when they do it will most likely cost them around another 2,500,000 AD for the leveling compendiums (like the horse). They can always spend the 3000 zen to get the other compainion, well call this $30
$30
One thing you did fail to mention is that you also got a Free Respec at 500 Zen and 3 char slots at 500 zen a piece. 2000 Zen at $20
$20
OVERALL
$50 in AD
$74 in Riding
$50 in endgame gear (arguably way more)
$30 in a pet
$20 in rerolls and char slots
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$224
So in the end you did make a little so feel good you made a good choice. Plus the item from the chest is godly it might pay for the whole package for whats its worth.
As if anyone with a brain would pay that much for a SINGLE mount when a rank 3 ACCOUNT unlock horse costs 3000 ZEN.
A bit incorrect. As founders we get three more character slots (hardly worth mentioning, since one can simply create multiple accounts), and the Panther pet has been deemed useless by the HotN community.
Anyway, at level cap you will either use the Stone or the Cat.
The mount I agree on, it's is actually nice and I was quite surprised. But now there are so many whiners about it that Cryptic may nerf its speed, making it worthless.
I knew this pack was a "meh" deal going into the purchase, but I wanted to support Cryptic. Would I do it again knowing now what I do? Probably not. They haven't been honest about the availability of said pack, nor the fact that the Panther was simply a buggy fluff piece.
I would have gotten a lot more value out of spending $100 on Zen, especially considering the promotion on gaming cards that Wally World had. I bought $120 worth of Zen for just $80. Like always they completely ignored the limit one per customer part of the promo.
All that being said, I chose to support Cryptic for making a game I like, and it's not like I don't have disposable income. I just wish they would have been more upfront about the pet (allowing the Panther to be tested in beta), and the "limited" availability (with the fluff countdown timer that has now been removed).
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Umm... No... It's the equivalent of the PvP weapon you can get for doing just a few matches.
I'm impressed that it lasted you to 30. I started finding and using better weapons around 20.
That said, the bag we get is bloody useless
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Had a better weapon at 18 already. No idea how it lasted that guy till 30...
Really? My wife replaced the starter weapon at 19. Yours lasted you till 30? That's pretty impressive.
Lol @ Panther. That is one useless pet. It has been exiled into the inactive pet roster.
I played the game for a few hours before buying the Hero, and it was my second day of playing I got the Guardian.
I don't regret the purchases. NW did these packs right, in that all the items you want to be able to make characters with are there. The starter weapon you get is really really good. My highest toon just hit 19 last night, and only now am I starting to find weapons that deal slightly more damage, but way less in terms of other bonuses, so within a few levels I'll get rid of it, but it lasted a long time!
you get bigger bag space that non founders would need to pay money for.
I also founded in MWO (Mechwarrrior online), this type of arguement happened there also, and the interesting thing is that since their program ended (a long time ago) people are asking them to reinstate it as they want in on what the founders got...so some people who detest the idea now due to the price, may in time wish they had purchased a package.
Sure, $200 is a decent chunk of change, I like the D & D world particularly Forgotten Realms, I looked at the expense as a really really pricey collectors edition. I mean hell, I spent 150 on the GW2 CE, and don't touch that now.
There is a ton of potential here, only time will tell if the game will reach it. Don't regret the expense or feel cheated, even if the value of the package is $220, you still got a "deal".
Play the game until you feel you've gotten your monies worth, the more you play, the lower your cost per minute / hour becomes...so if you play lets say 60 hours, it basically costs you 3.33 per hour, increase the time this number goes down, so what is it worth to you per hour? Me for example, 260 / maybe 15 is 17.33...now this isn't worth it for me, so I want to play more (and i GENUINELY DO!!) and lower that number.