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Improve GWFs.
I mean what the hell?
PvE:
- Doing pathetic damage with a huge two-handed sword (makes perfect sense, NOT)
- Due to the low dps, you are dying like a fly
Dungeons:
- No real role
- Low DPS
- Worse than a tank in survivability
PvP:
- Worse than bad DPS
- gets cc'd all the time
- no real dodge
I mean what the hell, why don't they at least get a little damage buff this is just straight out ridiculous.
How can you release such a class and not notice how broken it is?
I mean what the hell?
PvE:
- Doing pathetic damage with a huge two-handed sword (makes perfect sense, NOT)
- Due to the low dps, you are dying like a fly
Dungeons:
- No real role
- Low DPS
- Worse than a tank in survivability
PvP:
- Worse than bad DPS
- gets cc'd all the time
- no real dodge
I mean what the hell, why don't they at least get a little damage buff this is just straight out ridiculous.
How can you release such a class and not notice how broken it is?
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Why an AoE class is saddled with a bunch of weak single-target abilities early on is beyond me.
Shure pvp this wont happen , but hey if they change the damage for pvp they will make this the only class to play then . If this class did more single target damage then you wouldn't have any challenge to play it .
Dungeons - again, low dps? I've done a number of dungeons now (a number of times) and either show as 1 or 2 for damage done. You expected to have the same survivability as a tank?
PvP - again, low dps? My only gripe with pvp is cc needs to have some sort of diminishing returns applied.
Low DPS may be a player thing? I don't think I have great gear, nor do I have a great build right now, but I haven't had any issues with dps or survivability.
Follow Kartofflen's or Thorin's guide.
Do what I did, role a DPS speced GF and do more DPS than the GWF, if you arent outdpsing a GWF as a GF, you're doing it wrong, and lol @ at GWF doing dps anywhere near a TR
I agree wholeheartedly... getting chain CC'd is no fun. CC needs a diminishing return mechanic badly.
At max its far better but still rather then a dodge GWF just gets a sprint which just takes far to long to use to actually dodge some of the abilities. Even as a charge in its not really that great to use to even run into things, It honestly feels its distance per one sprint is perhaps on par with say a rogue of CW, but with a much longer delay in getting to your destination, the only real benefit is it doesn't have that brief pause at the end and can be combined smoothly. Unfortunately too you take so much damage, without unstoppable its basically like being made of paper in terms of the damage you can actually absorb. I'm fine with that but we NEED a method of dodging quicker if we are going to be paper thin without unstoppable.
Cleric level 5X (Dragon) - Holy goblin so much easier!
Not sure what you played, but it sure as heck wasn't a GWF.
Ha ha ha ha. Wait a minute - you are serious.
I don't think you have ever played a Rogue, because if you had, you might notice something which makes your remarks hard to believe.
HINT: Compare the damage of the Rogue's AT-WILL ability with that of the GWF's ENCOUNTER or even DAILY powers at lower levels if you want a good laugh.
No you didnt.......
Unless the guy was drunk eating donuts the whole time.
I've been GWF since BW3 and even then, before they got nerfed, at 10 a rogue would crit for over 1k, I was criting for 70.....
I ran a dungeon at 18 in this release, I was fourth.
I ran one with cleric and my brother thats a 60 rogue. I was second with 60k.....he had over 700, granted thats at level 60 it should be that lopsided, but still perspective. at 35 rogues were critting for 7k+. I think I'm 20 and barely breaking triple digits right now, I may be into the 200s.
Just a little perspective into how much more damage the rogues actually do.
Yeah
While I agree with this reasoning, I also consider diminishing returns in CC as a way of reducing drastically the efficiency of dedicated controllers which is not exactly a good thing.
Then again, it becomes pretty obvious over time that PVP itself seems to have been an afterthought in a largely PVE-oriented game.
After all, DnD never was balanced in a way that would allow PVP.
I have no doubt that is true. My own GWF has imporved with levels and time. But as others have said, not all of us just want to get to end game and shine. I want to enjoy the journey there too
Now that you mention it, it's so weird!
Usually, in DnD PnP at least, you'd expect such progression from a caster class because early level casters have very little to no spells whereas, by 20 they can unleash apocalyptic level magics, while fighter starts ahead of everyone else, yet progresses more steadily and slowly compared to other classes.
Someone messed the progression chart big time on that one...
Personally I love the class, and sure, while my competitive side would like to do a bit more DPS, it's really just an issue of ego, not a broken class.
Not everyone here is calling him a liar straight up (although many people are clearly thinking that).
But when you make statements like:
then you can expect a certain amount of disbelief from anyone who has played both a GWF and TR at that level.
I'm lvl 52 now, and I started GWF because everyone said it sucked. While my dmg feels somewhat lackluster in PVP matches, I still get around fairly well.
In PVE however, I'm a beast. I easily get the highest dmg scores because of the adds (sometimes outdmged by a trickster).
I don't die very often, thanks to my cleric compaion (who in her turn, dies when people look at her but it's all good).
I'm fairly happy with how the GWF is holding up, especially around alot of adds. I used the forsaken GWF build on this forum and I'm forever in his gratitude. I feel so ******* MANLY.
So it took a computer game to finally do that for you? Interesting.......
GWF has scaling issues, pre-30 needs some love. Also in PvP they are CC'd alot, because sprinting leaves us CC vulnerable unlike dodging.
Did I ever say that? Naw. Back to your cave batwoman.
No, but as it seemed like such a big deal to you, that is the most obvious conclusion, mister "I feel so ******* MANLY" GREAT weapon fighter.....
Aww, an insecure kid trying to pick a fight online.
Would you rather play a class where you feel horrible with? Nah. If you get no feeling whatsoever from a game, then whats the use of playing one? I enjoy this game, I have fun and I feel cool while slashing an online sword on a few pixels. I don't care? Good luck on whatever great arguement you're going to post now.
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Group make up was TRx2 CW DC GWF.
Get gear, play at 60, then you will be allowed to comment on GWF as a class.
We both have our reasons for picking GWF. Mine is because GWF is fun and challenging, yours is because it makes you feel manly. Never said your reasons were wrong, just interesting as I have never heard of anyone saying playing a computer game made them feel manly before.....
In PVE I am a beast and started to feel that way around level 35. I come in first or second in damage done in dungeons, usually losing out to a controller wizard (who just loves to scatter my mobs to the 4 corners of the map). I am not a striker class. My role is AOE, and that should be my focus, and I do so very well. A rogue is pure single target, and pure striker, and they excel at that. They are the only striker class in the game at the moment, and one of the reasons they do so well at striking is because they carry two stat sticks.
Is GWF fun to play...yes most of the time. If you play solo you may have a rough time. We excel in groups and especially dungeons. If you are looking for end game dungeon running, this class is the one for you. If you want to play PVP, go rogue, cleric, or CW. Fast leveling, go rogue. Big numbers, go rogue. I don't know about the rest of you, but I like having a variety of classes to play that all play differently than each other. If the GWF was just a rogue with AOE, there would be no rogues.