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kandyman2012
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Please, can someone tell me how this is a D&D game? Isnt D&D like a max customizable game with monsters all over.
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He must be annoyed that he can't use his set of special dice
I haven't tried yet in Neverwinter, but in alot of MMOs you can actually roll an invisible dice with a command like /roll or something like that, might be nice if that feature's available here, though not a deal breaker either way.
How is it not a D&D game? Why does every D&D game need to follow one specific formulae? Isn't D&D all about making the game your own? Ever play Dungeons & DRagons Tower of Doom, or Shadow Over Mystara? Or Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance I&II?
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Ludovique - Tiefling DC
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DnD is nothing but a RULE SET. That is it. There are no qualifications on how that rule set has to be used. This is DnD because it sticks to that rule set.
The way that your post is worded hints that you know about D&D, and disagree that Neverwinter is D&D, due to some sky high expectations set by D&D 3.x purists. If you don't want to get burned, choose your words wisely.
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you are confusing 4e with 3.5... 4e had almost no custumization outside of paths your character could take. Couldnt even be evil... because the game wouldnt allow it...
Just because a Book states that its rule doesn't mean it is. That is up the to DM's decision in the end, the book and its rules are just a template.
Sure there are DM's who are Rule Heavy straight from the book and then there are DM's who bend or adjust rules to make the game abit more logical or abit more fun, both for Character Creation, and Story.
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It's not DND game, plain and simple.
Oh yeah? Show me the spell book, then.
How did this thread come to be? Isn't Neverwinter like a max "customizable" game with monsters all over?
You've got 5 classes (GF/GWF/TR/CW/DC) + a power system + feat tree + point buy stat system + 3 Encounter, 2 Daily, 2 At-Wills, 1 tab, & 2 passives & mobs keep coming back from the dead no matter how many times you kill them. Heck those Nashers always respawn. Heck Rhazzad's been slain thousands of times already and he still keeps coming back when a new adventurer appears.
I have a player who feels games should be run strictly by the book. We've been playing 'The One Ring' recently, and he was arguing against the most suited character (who was a Hobbit) assassinating an Orc because "he's too small to slit it's throat." Not from an in-character perspective was this argument made, by from a mechanical one.
The thing with this is, he can't seem to understand that there are role-playing games with loose rules, he seems to require hard structure, and it drives me mad sometimes.
I don't think that's how it works in 4E, with the addition of Powers, all spells seem to have worked their way into that system. There seemed to be some complaint about Wizards being overpowered in past editions, so WotC used the Powers mechanic to turn every class into a type of wizard.
As to how this is a D&D game. It's based in Neverwinter, in the Forgotten Reams setting, which is part of the D&D franchise. It has inspirations from 4E mechanics, but it's not a direct translation of the table-top system. I feel that's about as close as it gets.
As far as pen and paper RPG goes, D&D is pretty rigid and not that customisable compared to many systems, and of course "monsters all over" is purely DM determined, and I have to say that the D&D sessions I played that had "monsters all over" were the crappy ones.
That said, from the little I played I agree that this feels more like Generic MMORPG #76 in Forgotten Realms settings than D&D. Or has pen and paper D&D changed that much? I haven't played in many years and I've heard that the latest version was made more MMO-like, but I can't imagine it's been changed so much that low level characters have hundreds of hit points, that characters go up in level very quickly, and the named attacks feel strange to me.
DDO felt to me a lot more like a D&D game, both in rules and in quest structure. Still, that doesn't mean that Neverwinter is a bad game. So far it felt like a decent MMORPG. Not great, but good enough to continue checking it out.
Can rogues Pick Pocket? Are there even rogues? What is up with that sneak atack...
Can u see how much u roll on the combat logs ?
well.. i also share ops questions : How is this D&D ? Because it has some orcs and Drows? this game shows itself way too much hack and slash, even for 4th edition rules..
Exactly! If those two criteria are enough for Bill Cavalier. Its good enough for anyone else.
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4e released at least a couple of books all about being evil. Player Options: Heroes of Shadow and the Demonomicon both have a lot of ideas for playing evil characters. Plus there's a Lich template and Vampire Lord template in the DM guide. And the Drow race. My second campaign 4e revolved around the exploits of an evil Drow hunter. Also, 4e had a ton of customization compared to this. You could use any weapon, and every class had at least a dozen different powers/skills to choose from at level 1. You don't get that many options in this game period, everyone ends up with the same powers as every other hero of their class and level.
I really don't think it's wise to be branding this game as Dungeons and Dragons purely because the expected gameplay is so different, however marking as Neverwinter and the customisable MMORPG adventures is perfect.
Before people get all defensive about the game, this game is a dam good MMORPG and I am looking forward to the custom adventures as I never have been left disappointed from the creative that people have when making adventures.
I think many people here need to understand that many people coming to this game for the D&D game play will be very disappointed and have been completely disappointed ever since Neverwinter Nights 2 came out.
If anyone had the chance to play Icewind Dale, Baldur's gate or Neverwinter Nights they will understand what the expected gameplay is, if you have no I highly recommend that you pick up one of the titles and give it a try it's very rewarding.
Anyways looking forward to what comes out of this game, currently feeling a bit let down but I'll wait to be surprised.
The game needs two big things to make it more D&D like IMO.
(1) More customization. This includes character creation, and the foundry. Need more classes, and more skill choices for each class. On a positive note though, I believe they're already working on adding more classes, and hopefully more foundry content/options.
(2) More sandbox options. Mainly I want to see an alignment system that pits players against each other in character. If I'm adventuring and encounter an evil wizard I want to be able to fight him. You could allow neutral players to stay out of the PVP aspect while good and evil players battle for domination over certain areas. This would be excellent.
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D&D generally tends to have more storytelling also, but then again some GMs run nothing but Dungeon Crawling sessions all about fighting and loot. This game follows that formula.