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mightyqu1nn
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OK, first let me apologize if this comes off like a "get off my lawn yah rotten kids!" speech but....
Is it just me who actually got the email that this is an OPEN BETA phase?! Not for nuthin but the fact that the forums are filled with pre-adolescent nerd rage about "WTF did I pay for!" and "OMFG this game is the worst ever!" is a depressing sign of the time and space we live in.
Instant gratification and a gold release candidate quality is now (at least by some apparently) expected in an OPEN BETA??
I have played the game for all of about 5 hrs and you know what I think about the current state of the game? Well I DONT KNOW YET I have had 5 hrs to explore and check it out!
And for those of you who have had more time and have posed constructive criticism's good on ya. But to be honest I really hope that the whiners and troll's go find a bridge to live under in miserable discordance with one another...
There are most certainly bugs and issues that need to be hammered out but for those of you self entitled, all about me, A.D.D. addled folks.
Please, I beg of you, Rage quit now....
Ok so that totally sounds like a "get of my lawn" speech, sorry....
Is it just me who actually got the email that this is an OPEN BETA phase?! Not for nuthin but the fact that the forums are filled with pre-adolescent nerd rage about "WTF did I pay for!" and "OMFG this game is the worst ever!" is a depressing sign of the time and space we live in.
Instant gratification and a gold release candidate quality is now (at least by some apparently) expected in an OPEN BETA??
I have played the game for all of about 5 hrs and you know what I think about the current state of the game? Well I DONT KNOW YET I have had 5 hrs to explore and check it out!
And for those of you who have had more time and have posed constructive criticism's good on ya. But to be honest I really hope that the whiners and troll's go find a bridge to live under in miserable discordance with one another...
There are most certainly bugs and issues that need to be hammered out but for those of you self entitled, all about me, A.D.D. addled folks.
Please, I beg of you, Rage quit now....
Ok so that totally sounds like a "get of my lawn" speech, sorry....
Do not interfere in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup...
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The outrage is mock outrage, if you do a little digging it's the same twelve people over and over again who are posting 95% of it and if we had access, we would probably see that half of those are from the same IP. (multiple accounts are a fact of like in F2P games ) When you are actually playing the game you hear a lot of praise, a lot of folks asking questions and a lot of LF/group/guild with the occasional lament about cash shop prices.
Basically no rational person is taking the forum silliness seriously.
Cryptic is in a enviable position right now, it's a big middle finger to the crusty unemployed developers screaming about the F2P apocalypse.
That said, this "open beta" is kind of a mixed bag. It sure seems like it's meant to be a live release and the only thing really being 'tested' is the server stress. Maybe it's just the fact that there's no wipe that bugs me, I dunno. Seems more like a live release being called 'beta' to get around having to answer for QC issues.
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Here is one of the 12 now....:rolleyes:
Shame. I agree with StormDrag0n, here's one of the 12.
On a more serious note though, you are correct, to a certain extent. There will be a mass exodus of players, but I doubt it will be 80%, and that will be for the best anyways. There is a ton of people who are playing right now that are just trying it out because it's the new, shiny, MMO.
On twitch, kripparian, Archon, toweliee, are all popular streamers from other games and they were streaming NWO. This brings both good and bad tidings to the playerbase. Yes, more people will come try out the game because they see their favorite streamers playing it, but more players isn't always a good thing.
Once all of you little 'WoW kids' go back to your world of raids and pandas, that won't be a bad thing for Neverwinter. Certainly wont be a bad thing for the forums, because they will definitely be less cluttered with all your entitled non-sense.
The game is in Open Beta. That's what it's called. But people are going to treat it as an actual launch, because that's what people expect with F2P online games.
The queues are a problem. Now, a lot of us expect this from a new MMO. We've seen it happen with other new games. But just because it's a common problem...doesn't change the fact that it is a problem.
The question now is - how fast can Cryptic respond to these issues? That's the critical thing. And that's what we'll have to see.
I wish this were the case for when The Secret World launched. The good community left and the whiners stayed.
I'm just gonna lurk here for the most part. I personally love the game and most aspects of it, but someone's bound to accuse me of fangirling..which in itself is really annoying. u.u
+1 good sir, +1
I totally agree with this, too often we see this and special Olympics being used as derogatory descriptors. The best forums I have been on makes language like this actionable, just like using the R word as a verb and the G word as an insult. I think overall our mods do a good job (and this is coming from someone who has strong reservations about volunteer mods) but I do wish they would be more diligent about things like this.
If posting a meme gif isn't okay, this sure as hell shouldn't be either.
/climbsoffsoapbox
Given the # of ppl online pre-open beta, assuming 1/3 per server, I would say they are profitable already. Looking at the number of THOSE showing off their mounts, a fair number spent some extra $$ too.
For some reason I was motivated to make my rant. I have played D&D since 1979 and I remember actually playing text based game on systems like the TRS-80 and the Apple 2's. I also remember being so excited when UO came out as that is the first graphically based MMO I can remember.
I really do try hard not to be "that guy", I Just couldn't resist posting when gods forbid THE SERVERS WENT DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE DURING A BETA!!!
Ok now Im really done
Bloody hypocrites.
as such, the game seems very popular..which is good, and overload and issue always happen at a launch for any decent game. i really don't think they expected this kind of population, only having 3 shards is proof of that.
I apologize, and in fact was diagnosed in my 40's as having A.D.D. I was ranting and I should not have worded my rant that way. I know what it feels like growing up being told you were an under achiever and the stigma that comes with those monikers. It was insensitive and wrong. mia culpa
Now to the person who finds the "R" word offensive. HAMSTER was an accepted medical term for over 100 years. I just don't understand being offended by it. It's like people who get offended by the proper names for HAMSTER.
OP, I hope you enjoy your next 5 hours, and all the hours to come after that! I know most people haven't had the extra few days to get settled in that I did, I hope you like what you see once the game is over the launch day hubbub
The thing is adding more shards isn't going to fix the issues, there is a metric HAMSTER ton of people from all over the world hitting the servers 24/7 if the game stays this popular (which it won't) they would have to look at going to a different server architecture because adding more servers to the hunt on the unified server will only buy you so much. But as I said it won't happen, this rough patch is going to be forgotten in two to three weeks, then folks can move on to crying about balance, the dungeons being to hard/too easy and the ever famous "0Mgzorz t3h cash shop!!!"
Do you really think when people spend $60 and $200 to become founders and get special privileges, only to not get what they paid for, and to not be upset when they don't get it? Are you insane? We/they have every right to complain, it has NOTHING to do with Open Beta. And this game is NOT even close to FREE!!! Don't be fooled.
You only played for 5hrs.? And therein lies the problem. You have NO CLUE what you are talking about, nor the right to judge or criticize anyone. Please follow your own advise, I beg of you, Rage quit now...
Want to know why Neverwinter is so laggy? Check out the "Latency" section in this thread.
Do you really think when people spend $60 and $200 to become founders and get special privileges, only to not get what they paid for, and to not be upset when they don't get it? Are you insane? We/they have every right to complain, it has NOTHING to do with Open Beta. And this game is NOT even close to FREE!!! Don't be fooled.
You only played for 5hrs.? And therein lies the problem. You have NO CLUE what you are talking about, nor the right to judge or criticize anyone. Please follow your own advise, I beg of you, Rage quit now.
I'm sorry the above was quoted and I did it wrong,
Wow, talk about missing the forest for the trees....
I was in no way complaining about the state of the game for precisely that reason I HAVE NO CLUE yet. Nor does ANYONE else whether you've been in closed beta or not.
I have worked on the other side of the fence for a few pretty major titles, I DO understand the complexities and variable's of creating any game let alone an MMO for a beloved IP.
Your post sir went straight to my point.
No problem dude, I have had the condition all my life as well I don't take offense to petty insults personally, but it just seems like there is a lot more tolerance to this kind of language on Cryptic forums.
yeah...their open beta is like that in that it really isnt open beta. They said they wont be wiping characters. To most, that's a live release. But, by calling it open beta, they have an excuse, an out....IT"S BETA!!11!!!1!!!!1 Of course, this goes right hand in hand with the scummy F2P model.
I'm just waiting to see the priority queue tokens show up in the cash shop.
I have Beta tested well over 25+ games. With the risk of giving my age away here
+1 to Cryptic for calling these 'releases' what it really is...open beta testing.
*Yes open beta isn't real
*The colours red and black in the log in screen are to get you to buy more Zen.
*Cryptic is creating the lag to force you to buy the Hotn pack
*Jack Emmert just hired Elvis and Hendrix to score the 1st expansion pack which you will have to buy to be able to log in.