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Don't bother playing Great Weapons Fighter
sadgfh
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Somehow they managed to make them even weaker. I'm in the mid 20s and can no longer solo single player dungeons to complete quest lines, the only class I out DPS is instances is guardian fighter (even clerics out DPS me), and in pvp i died before my determination bar even reaches the half way mark. I literally just did a battle without a single PVP kill. Either the made significant changes which I dont see, or the people who said "Ohh, GWF do fine once you level up a bit" were blatantly lying.
Let's pretend like my account name isn't just a random string of characters I got by punching my keyboard.
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That guy quested to 34 then used leadership profession+zen to hit 60
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Max level inside of 20 hours?
That's... disappointing. And a little sad.
It is what it is, this is not wow. D&D has always been about the experience. If you CHOOSE to powerlevel like that then you are missing the point of D&D.
who cares that its possible to reach max level in 5 hours? Play the game for the purpose of having a good time. Yesh.
That's what happens when you can pay for character experience via instant leadership crafting. Leadership awards pure exp, by paying AD you can make it instant, as long as you keep paying AD you can gain an infinite amount of exp.
Although my favorite characters are heavily armored, two handed weapon wielding warriors, in single player games, for MMOs I gave up trying to play one of these as no MMO company ever managed to get it right.
The pay to win nonsense begins! Paid to hit max level in a couple hours and he had a epic purple weapon waiting for him at 60 from HotN.
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How is it pay to win? You can do the EXACT same thing for free.
It's paying for convenience and expedience.
Please learn what "Pay to Win" is
There are frightening people that play MMOs for the bragging right of getting somewhere first. Even D&D MMOs.
So, to this person, "winning" was getting to max before anyone else. Which is pretty funny :P
To me selling power in a game is a form of pay to win. The weapon that Heros of the North obtain at 60 is a prime example of things that should not be sold for money. And while I don't mind experience boosts (I.E paying for a x% increase in experience per quest/mob kill) this guy just dumped a couple hundred to hit 60.
You want a true example of P2W? Look no further than Forsaken World, Perfect World, Battle of the Immortals and other games ran by this silly little company. This game will be no different eventually. If you are a non competitive, pve only, casual player then it's no issue to you.
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How dare he experience the game the way he wants to? SHAME on him.
well he can...but its like gorging down a gourmet meal...you can do that, but you still keep being an ignorant idiot
Except the meal is still there, and can be experienced on another character in a different fashion if he chooses. Who are you to dictate what is fun for other people?
im the guy telling him he's doing it wrong
Let me know how being angry about other people living their lives in ways that don't impact you works out for ya. Enjoy being forever angry.
Also, this thread is about GWF sucking and needing a buff. I was excited to play a GWF since it was one of the classes that I most enjoyed when I was playing the betas. But if it sucks right now I may end up leveling a Control Wizard or a Guardian Fighter.
Man do they really suck this much or this is only people who don't know how to play the class whinning? =(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxXHNigHfnw
I would much rather take the grand tour, explore Foundry adventures, have some fun in PvP, look around like a kid in a wonderous toy store, and have fun, instead of powering through the game while guzzling energy drinks. The journey matters.
nuff said.
Man I'm worried now. I really wanted to role a GWF =|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxXHNigHfnw
I'll probably follow this line of thought. Well I did played as a Paladin in WoW for over a year and half before the buffs that made the Retribution tree viable anyway... I just hope Cryptic is faster at patching things than Blizzard =P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxXHNigHfnw
Do they have a explanation about how the gwf is fine, or just no solution, don't care, are working on it, etc... ?
Seems to me like bad communication from yet another company
This is the explanation as of April 25th. Source
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In the beta forums people were quoting Cryptic in saying that GWF on BW3 was too mobile, and was doing too much damage (remember it is listed as a mobile striker offtank), so they had to dial it back a bit to get it to "where its supposed to be"
As that was in the beta forums, I don't have the quote nor link.
EDIT Someone has the quote above me
Right now I have leveled to level 10 or 11 playing a Control Wizard, Great Weapon Fighter, Guardian Fighter and Trickster Roque.
With the GWF it was bad: I did not exactly keep tabs, but it feeltlike I needed to hit the same enemy type as many times as with the Guardian Figther. It did not feel like I was making more damage faster. While in a party with a Contol Wizard, I definitely sucked damage-making-wise and the GWF was the only character that died (in the sewer rats dungeon while the control wizard laughed his *** off.) AND what I still do not understand is why the damage of the "Sure Strike" of the GWF is 'slightly reduced for every target hit beyond the first', while the "Cleave" of the GF 'deals additional damage with the 3rd hit'. WhyOWhy?
Right now I do not know if the GWF would be better in higher levels and I do not care. My GWF was wipped after the Beta-weekends. It is the only class for which I have lost interest, because when I choose a non-spells, non-stealth, medium armor character with a freaking big weapon I want to see freaking relevant damage dealing.