Seems liek the prices are a bit exaggerated, please rethink reducing your prices to reflect the industry standard. I have no problems paying RL Cash for items, but they need to have value.
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The raise in prices this weekend make comparable Neverwinter's pricing with Star trek online and Champions online. . .
. . . To think that this game would be cheaper was/is a pipe dream. . .
Erm i think you have it wrong there, the only thing inline with sto was the lockbox keys everything else is either non comparable or just over priced: e.g.
-->mount does not equal a starship(a starship shoots/has abilities ect a mount...just moves you at a somewhat rapid rate and dismounts when you perform any action or get hit 3-5 times ) also a mount costs $5 - $40 a ship costs $5 -$25.
-->companions and officers are equivalent, both give powers or cast abilities and attack in combat, the cost of sto bridge officer is $5 the cost a companion in D&D NWO is $15- $35.
-->24 inventory slots(equivilent to a bag) in STO costs $8 whilst a bag in D&D NWO costs $10.
-->costumes in STO cost $5.50-$7 costumes in D&D NWO cost $12- $30.
-->Duty officer packs in sto cost $2-$2.75 and in D&D NWO the profession packs cost $3-$7.
and don't even get me started on champions online as it is more budget friendly then STO at the moment.
The reason why im giving you this information and putting it in this thread however is not because i wish to prove you wrong (however inadvertently) but because these prices were the prices in a BETA WEEKEND which means they are subject to change and if the powers that be happen to read this thread i don't wont them coming to the wrong conclusion about "comparable" pricing and how the prices they just used in the latest offering were somehow so.
The raise in prices this weekend make comparable Neverwinter's pricing with Star trek online and Champions online. . .
. . . To think that this game would be cheaper was/is a pipe dream. . .
Sad because this means once I get my Bag slots I will never spend another dime in the cash shop cause its to expensive. I spent alot in GW2 because things were reasonable. I would buy a Mount or a Companion this very instant if it was no more then $25 for mount or $20 for a companion.
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bluesteel8Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
I spent quite a fair bit in PS2 due to the prices being fairly cheap. I know the items are totally different but just stating I didn't hold back spending the cash. Here... Nope. But that's just me.
The point with this game was the hype and to sell founderpacks, they did a great job with that. When it comes to the Z-store they just want to make a little profit nothing more. Its a classic shake&bake mmo, the Z-store is for the tiny fanbase. The game got many flaws in this design and most people will get bored during the open beta, and then a tiny fraction of players will keep playing after the real launch and those are the ones that will pay these crazy prices :O.
I spent quite a fair bit in PS2 due to the prices being fairly cheap. I know the items are totally different but just stating I didn't hold back spending the cash. Here... Nope. But that's just me.
Sigh I spent way too much on PS2. Got armor, guns and camo on ever class =/.. If NW does daily or weekly deals like PS2 did and cuts prices temporarily then it would be ok
Do the bought companions and mounts unlock for the account or the character. I could maybe be ok with some of the prices if they are account unlocks. If they are per character, PWE has got to be kidding with the prices
Erm i think you have it wrong there, the only thing inline with sto was the lockbox keys everything else is either non comparable or just over priced: e.g.
-->mount does not equal a starship(a starship shoots/has abilities ect a mount...just moves you at a somewhat rapid rate and dismounts when you perform any action or get hit 3-5 times ) also a mount costs $5 - $40 a ship costs $5 -$25.
-->companions and officers are equivalent, both give powers or cast abilities and attack in combat, the cost of sto bridge officer is $5 the cost a companion in D&D NWO is $15- $35.
-->24 inventory slots(equivilent to a bag) in STO costs $8 whilst a bag in D&D NWO costs $10.
-->costumes in STO cost $5.50-$7 costumes in D&D NWO cost $12- $30.
-->Duty officer packs in sto cost $2-$2.75 and in D&D NWO the profession packs cost $3-$7.
and don't even get me started on champions online as it is more budget friendly then STO at the moment.
The reason why im giving you this information and putting it in this thread however is not because i wish to prove you wrong (however inadvertently) but because these prices were the prices in a BETA WEEKEND which means they are subject to change and if the powers that be happen to read this thread i don't wont them coming to the wrong conclusion about "comparable" pricing and how the prices they just used in the latest offering were somehow so.
Cost of buying 1 companion in neverwinter $15-35
Cost of filling your all your Max level ships 6 duty stations with zen store bridge officers $30
Seems pretty close to me. . . .
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arcademasterMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
Let's not forget gear that costs 2 million AD for a single piece of equipment. Show me something besides fleet projects designed for 20+ people that cost 666k dilithium (24k AD daily refinement limit to STO's 8k dil equivalent). Instead an endgame weapon costs 30k at the most in STO, comparable to not even 100k AD in NW.
What are you people complaining about? .....it's totally free to play....you dont have to buy a single thing to enjoy all the wonderful pleasures of this game.
if you didnt see the blantant gouging with the pricing of the Founder's pack as an indicator of how they would running this game, then you werent paying much attention.
Sigh I spent way too much on PS2. Got armor, guns and camo on ever class =/.. If NW does daily or weekly deals like PS2 did and cuts prices temporarily then it would be ok
Haha yeah I spent about 400 bucks on PS2 to see that game quickly tank. Due to Air or Infantry being the only real options already. I spent 280 on The Secret World before that for all the packs and some cool extras when the game launched. That game is kinda in limbo for me atm. I think I have had 10 times more fun in STO and have only spent 20 bucks though I got those starter items from this cough 200 dollar pack.
Kinda been gravitating towards PW games since at least the currency I can drop can be used on several different fun games.
Do the bought companions and mounts unlock for the account or the character. I could maybe be ok with some of the prices if they are account unlocks. If they are per character, PWE has got to be kidding with the prices
Mounts are account wide.
Companion are character. You can unbind a leveled Companion with Astral Diamonds and trade to another character or sell it at its current level for profit.
Low price = higher profit overall, more people buying your product. High price = less profit overall, you limit the percentage of people buying your product. I really hope they stop and look closely at their business model with regard to the ztore pricing. At the end of the day the ztore sells things that have zero substance, these are digital items. The pricetag could be 1$ and they'd still be worth nothing. The value of these items is determined by creation (does it LOOK cool?) and demand (does it DO something cool?). I personally will be buying anything I want off the ztore. I see the current prices, ON SOME ITEMS but not all, as something that may hinder community growth in the long run and that's what I don't want to see.
If you can't be constructive in your criticism, go back to world-of-whiners.
What are you people complaining about? .....it's totally free to play....you dont have to buy a single thing to enjoy all the wonderful pleasures of this game.
A little sad, but true.
I want to buy things from the z-store and make everyone happy.
But I will not do so if they are priced in such a way that it feels like I am donating money, rather than getting my coin's worth.
In the end, if prices stay as they are, I'll probably get one or two things from the store, if they ever make something that fits my main's concept exactly, and otherwise enjoy the free parts of Neverwinter.
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I just wait for stuff to go on sale or don't even buy from the Zen market place. I think it is a big time rip off...lol Using in game gold to buy things it ok.
It needs to be more in line with Guild Wars 2 Market, us westerns don't like far east mark ups.
I think these prices are temporary.
They are high right now, just to increase the value of the "founder packs".
We can think that as business strategy.
I think these prices are temporary.
They are high right now, just to increase the value of the "founder packs".
We can think that as business strategy.
I believe prices will go down after open beta.
I might be wrong though... who knows...
I hope you right because it is a big big big ripoff ! :rolleyes:
I also agree with the OP. With the current prices, I doubt i'll spend much if any Zen. I really hope the dev and publisher are keeping an eye out on this post. I would wager most people agree with the OP as well. I will say it here. If the prices drop, at least 30%-50% more things will sell, and a lot more often.
I already paid $200 for the (Hero of the North Founder's Pack) + another $20 for a Neverwinter Starter Kit..
I don't want to spend $30 for a Honey Badger or however much it is. Sure I get a Black Panther for part of my Hero Pack but I'd much rather have a Honey Badger :cool: Honey Badger for the win!!!
Prices need to come down please.
I'm gonna rip your head off and make it my puppet! (NwN2)
I already paid $200 for the (Hero of the North Founder's Pack) + another $20 for a Neverwinter Starter Kit..
I don't want to spend $30 for a Honey Badger or however much it is. Sure I get a Black Panther for part of my Hero Pack but I'd much rather have a Honey Badger :cool: Honey Badger for the win!!!
Prices need to come down please.
Buying the Honey Badger regardless of price but yes these prices are too high!
Prices do need to come down indeed. Its simple physiology: people will buy more if they dont feel they are paying 'too much', and right now many people clearly feel they would need to pay too much.
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projxMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
These prices aren't micro transactions... They're at a dollar amount that causes people to think / hold back on purchasing. They would do much better in the micro transaction range where people don't really think about the purchase as it has little effect on their personal finances.
Gave in to that momentary sadistic twitch...
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horsepopMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 20Arc User
edited April 2013
Agree. Zen store prices are crazy high :[
I mean, bags and respec tokens are musthaves but with those prices I am not sure I will buy any.
Personally I would gladly buy things if the prices were lower - much lower. As long as I felt I got something for the money. Say 10 respecs for 5$, or 1-2$ for a bag. Then I would buy those things all the time to all of my characters, resulting in a lot more income to Cryptic than me (and I am sure others as well) not buying anything.
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HAH I see what you did there.
Character is what a man is in the dark
. . . To think that this game would be cheaper was/is a pipe dream. . .
Erm i think you have it wrong there, the only thing inline with sto was the lockbox keys everything else is either non comparable or just over priced: e.g.
-->mount does not equal a starship(a starship shoots/has abilities ect a mount...just moves you at a somewhat rapid rate and dismounts when you perform any action or get hit 3-5 times ) also a mount costs $5 - $40 a ship costs $5 -$25.
-->companions and officers are equivalent, both give powers or cast abilities and attack in combat, the cost of sto bridge officer is $5 the cost a companion in D&D NWO is $15- $35.
-->24 inventory slots(equivilent to a bag) in STO costs $8 whilst a bag in D&D NWO costs $10.
-->costumes in STO cost $5.50-$7 costumes in D&D NWO cost $12- $30.
-->Duty officer packs in sto cost $2-$2.75 and in D&D NWO the profession packs cost $3-$7.
and don't even get me started on champions online as it is more budget friendly then STO at the moment.
The reason why im giving you this information and putting it in this thread however is not because i wish to prove you wrong (however inadvertently) but because these prices were the prices in a BETA WEEKEND which means they are subject to change and if the powers that be happen to read this thread i don't wont them coming to the wrong conclusion about "comparable" pricing and how the prices they just used in the latest offering were somehow so.
Sad because this means once I get my Bag slots I will never spend another dime in the cash shop cause its to expensive. I spent alot in GW2 because things were reasonable. I would buy a Mount or a Companion this very instant if it was no more then $25 for mount or $20 for a companion.
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Sigh I spent way too much on PS2. Got armor, guns and camo on ever class =/.. If NW does daily or weekly deals like PS2 did and cuts prices temporarily then it would be ok
Cost of buying 1 companion in neverwinter $15-35
Cost of filling your all your Max level ships 6 duty stations with zen store bridge officers $30
Seems pretty close to me. . . .
The prices here are nothing like in STO.
if you didnt see the blantant gouging with the pricing of the Founder's pack as an indicator of how they would running this game, then you werent paying much attention.
Haha yeah I spent about 400 bucks on PS2 to see that game quickly tank. Due to Air or Infantry being the only real options already. I spent 280 on The Secret World before that for all the packs and some cool extras when the game launched. That game is kinda in limbo for me atm. I think I have had 10 times more fun in STO and have only spent 20 bucks though I got those starter items from this cough 200 dollar pack.
Kinda been gravitating towards PW games since at least the currency I can drop can be used on several different fun games.
Mounts are account wide.
Companion are character. You can unbind a leveled Companion with Astral Diamonds and trade to another character or sell it at its current level for profit.
A little sad, but true.
I want to buy things from the z-store and make everyone happy.
But I will not do so if they are priced in such a way that it feels like I am donating money, rather than getting my coin's worth.
In the end, if prices stay as they are, I'll probably get one or two things from the store, if they ever make something that fits my main's concept exactly, and otherwise enjoy the free parts of Neverwinter.
[SIGPIC]Or am I?[/SIGPIC]
This loony is also known as @Derangement.
It needs to be more in line with Guild Wars 2 Market, us westerns don't like far east mark ups.
I think these prices are temporary.
They are high right now, just to increase the value of the "founder packs".
We can think that as business strategy.
I believe prices will go down after open beta.
I might be wrong though... who knows...
I hope you right because it is a big big big ripoff ! :rolleyes:
That's my hope at least...that their cash shop is a total freakin failure.
I don't want to spend $30 for a Honey Badger or however much it is. Sure I get a Black Panther for part of my Hero Pack but I'd much rather have a Honey Badger :cool:
Honey Badger for the win!!!
Prices need to come down please.
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I mean, bags and respec tokens are musthaves but with those prices I am not sure I will buy any.
Personally I would gladly buy things if the prices were lower - much lower. As long as I felt I got something for the money. Say 10 respecs for 5$, or 1-2$ for a bag. Then I would buy those things all the time to all of my characters, resulting in a lot more income to Cryptic than me (and I am sure others as well) not buying anything.