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Raiding in Neverwinter
andrdfry
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 10 Arc User
So i want to know if anyone has gotten to 50 and started raiding with others. In SWTOR the story and gameplay was really fun but once the raiding started it was boring and filled with so many bugs that it was unplayable. I played WoW since vanilla and have loved the challenge and fun of raiding. I dont want this to be another SWTOR game where raiding wasnt tested and filled with bugs and completely boring with no skill to overcome it.
So has anyone played in some raids yet? How was the difficulty of raiding? Was it easy to get a group to raid? Was the raids fun to play? Anything else you want to talk about as well.
So has anyone played in some raids yet? How was the difficulty of raiding? Was it easy to get a group to raid? Was the raids fun to play? Anything else you want to talk about as well.
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Obviously raids haven't been discussed yet but they definitely are considering expanding it to past 5 man raids if they haven't already.
But 21-26723653721 people raids are...well if you like them more power to you but p'tooy!
I'd rather see some epic and challenging 5-20 man content which will be challenging but not button mashing fests like I find in the other "raids" in other games. Really large raids don't make me feel like the beasts are difficult. In most cases it seems like it's just too much HP to handle in a smaller group.
Planes of Power in Everquest was probably one of my favorite raiding experiences in MMOs, simply because of the awesome lore behind it all...you were actually fighting/killing the gods. D&D could definitely do something similar.
Fighting something like a Hecatoncheires would be an awesome raid. This, and other creatures in other planes are far beyond the abilities of single players, even a single group of players to handle, but I'd like to see some content for 5-15-20 players.
I'm not aware of what the specific plans for raids are, but I do know that Neverwinter will definitely have challenging end-game content that will require teamwork and gear that requires a bit of in-game effort to obtain.
Also, raids aren't fun or worth the time investment for developers when only 5% max of the community ever sees them. Which is basically why some games have changed their ways around a bit and made an easier and a hardmode version of the raids. The easy one can be done by the average population, the harder one is for the people wanting as hard a challenge as they can get.
As for the size of raids, I'd say 10-20 should be more than enough. Any more will just be a chore to organize and keep in check, especially since we're all pretty close up to the action with our camera it would also be easy to lose oversight pretty quickly with a lot of players running around.
Also, UO was complete **** in terms of raiding. The time it took to get anything done there was cringeworthy. :[
yes i agree raiding in UO was well not a organized as EQ or latter games lol but until everyone figured out how to tame dragons you needed alot of buddies to fight things like Cyclops and Balrog's :P
And yet, it was when WoW was like this that it got really popular.
Not to mention, who of us didn't play the Warcraft series when we were younger? A lot of us were hyped up over being able to play in that world in a persistent manner, to see with our own eyes and work with our own hands in this world! There was just so much to see and do there that was only mentioned in the other games. It was pretty cool, and this too attracted many people.
I can probably think of more, but it wasn't the raiding that made WoW into the beast it is. It may have contributed, but there are two sides to this coin. Some were attracted to the challenge ahead, most didn't have the time to waste 6 days a week raiding for 5-6 hours straight. It really depends on your point of view.
anyways.. smaller raids are the way to go, nobody wants to wait around for hours in chat or queue for healer/s or tank/s
when the enrage counter for hardcore raids in eq2 is 10 deaths and the mob then becomes unkillable we'll talk when wow ever made it that hard
Not really cost effective or smart if you put devs to work on mmo content which 90% of the player base will never see.
Wow got more popular post BC than it had ever been, Wotlk was when it had the highest population, More than 5% saw raids then.
*THAT* in a sense, was Sony's own doing. Sony's boast, at the time, was that the computer had not been made yet, that would be able to run EQ2 with all the bells and whistles incorporated into it, and this was largely true at that point in time. Graphically, it was absolutely stunning for its time, and required, if not a top end machine, then at least in the upper third of machines available at the time, to even run it at all.
Blizzard took another approach, that of simpler graphics, so that even lower end machines could run it comfortably. In the end, due to circumstances beyond either company's foresight, let alone ability to control, this decision was crucial.
At that particular point in time, internet access was only just beginning to become as prevalent as it is today. These newcomers to the internet looked for a game, and had two choices, EQ2 which required some serious hardware, or WoW, which did not.
The rest, as they say, is history...
As far as an "elitest" environment.... this is an MMO... and with multiple people, be it in real life or in a game, not everyone is equal in terms of skill, knowledge or property. Games nor life is fair, but you have the ability to surround yourself with people who you enjoy and ignore the people you do not. The game should not have to restrict content because "elitetism". You are going to find a variety of people in the game you dislike for various reasons and with or without raids there will be elitest players.
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menzo raid - The raid starts entering Menzo for whatever story purpose. The raid would have Umberhulks, Deep Gnomes, and Drow in it. As well you would have to fight many of the spiders which reside. The matron of Banere would be the final boss, and the final phase would be a fight against the Aspect of Lollth. Another boss of it could easily be a resurrected Jaraxle (drizzt's trainer).
Heck, we could even fight Larloch in some sort of raid. SO MUCH POTENTIAL for raiding in this game.
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Always loved 10 man content. Still tight enough that everyone needed to be on their game. 25-40 had too many potential negatives...