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ashrox10
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Hello Guys.
I know this is a topic which has been touched on every now and again but I want to make a poll as to what you guys think in regards to the fact we, Europeans, are charged 25% more for a game than you, Americans, are.
Basically, I've been a PayPal user for years and I've been able to purchase US goods in US currency for the entirity of my PayPal 'life'. However, with Neverwinter, it seems the PayPal link redirects us to a EU payment system rather than default sending it to the US one, why? I don't know.
Usually, you're able to purchase US goods and just deal with your individual banks currency rate or you're actually allowed to choose a currency to pay in. In this case, we're not.
Working out rough prices:
Hero of the North pack - $250
Guardian pack - $72.50
^
Now, I was prepared to pay the correct sum of (200 - HotN 60 - Guardian) however now I've realised that I cannot pay in $$ I don't think I want to purchase it, unless they allow us to choose a currency to pay with.
If I'm missing something here, please tell me. All other pre-purchases of US games have been either repriced to match the US price or given EU the chance to select what currency they wish to pay in.
What do you guys think?
Cheers,
Ash.
I know this is a topic which has been touched on every now and again but I want to make a poll as to what you guys think in regards to the fact we, Europeans, are charged 25% more for a game than you, Americans, are.
Basically, I've been a PayPal user for years and I've been able to purchase US goods in US currency for the entirity of my PayPal 'life'. However, with Neverwinter, it seems the PayPal link redirects us to a EU payment system rather than default sending it to the US one, why? I don't know.
Usually, you're able to purchase US goods and just deal with your individual banks currency rate or you're actually allowed to choose a currency to pay in. In this case, we're not.
Working out rough prices:
Hero of the North pack - $250
Guardian pack - $72.50
^
Now, I was prepared to pay the correct sum of (200 - HotN 60 - Guardian) however now I've realised that I cannot pay in $$ I don't think I want to purchase it, unless they allow us to choose a currency to pay with.
If I'm missing something here, please tell me. All other pre-purchases of US games have been either repriced to match the US price or given EU the chance to select what currency they wish to pay in.
What do you guys think?
Cheers,
Ash.
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From what I understand from hearing around the forums the extra amount has to do with taxes
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If it is taxes then the UK VAT rate is 20% and when I investigated what I would be charged I was offered a price in Euros.
This is something that probably needs to be worked out before these packs are withdrawn.
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Since when does the UK people consider themselves european anyway?:p
Which is around $250.
It depends how right-wing those UK people are and how little they know about Europe. :rolleyes:
Me, I fully appreciate cultures such as France where comics and role-playing games are well respected.
A Prootwaddle is one of the weirder player-character races in "The Fantasy Trip", Steve Jackson's first published role-playing game.
Correct.
if it were a proper conversion, it would have been about 151.74€.
Which means that VAT thing kicked in.
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$200 is 126 pounds, i had to pay 167 pounds for the hero pack, fu rip off tbh, see Britain, this is why we want out of the EU, its a shambles of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
It's not about access to the game, you will be able to download and play for free. This is about ingame items and perks and in order to make use of them the american buyer will have to give you the account details, and since accounts are linked to addresses one of the two of you will be committing fraud and the account will locked.
The fraud is them forcing us to pay in fu euros...
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Paying 1/4th extra for the same package, due to living in another continent is insane to say the least.
Seriously; not happening.
Yet you buy gasoline?
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This game is a digital item; gasoline is not, and it's price is affected by a multitude of other unstable factors.
Your comparison lacks any context and value; troll elsewhere.
Actually it is exactly the same. The reason why you are paying higher prices for gasoline is because of your taxes and your country that is the same reason you are paying more for the founders packs. The shear fact that something is digital does not make it different alone and people need to start getting used to that. We are moving into an age of digital goods and they are only going to become more and more prevalent. Music, digital test/audio books, tv/movies, all previously physical objects now a huge percentage of them digital items, but still having a value subject to taxes and other restrictions. I am willing to bet you are going to start seeing MORE of this type of thing over the next 10 years not less.
Just because it is something you do not want to hear does not make me a troll.
Now that is the real question. Who knows. I bet PWE/Cryptic knows but they are not saying. My point being it is not 25% more. 5%, I will totally give you.
Tell me? we pay 1/4 more money for the pack and you blame tax but? are you saying America pays 0% tax? for us to pay 25% more? if America pays 20% tax and Britain 25% why are we paying 25% more in total?
America doesn't pay 20% tax. We don't pay VAT. I payed 0% tax in america we don't have tax on this stuff. You do, it is called VAT it is 20%. Like I said not sure where the extra 5% comes from, could be bad currency conversion could be a typo some where in the website code, could be the flying spaghetti monster hating Europeans and manipulating the conversion, I have no idea. And for the love of god please proof read what you write. It looks like a spastic 7 year old wrote it. Random question marks no other punctuation it is difficult to know for certain what you are saying.
Also, in american society it is standard practice to apply all taxes and fees at checkout. We do not build taxes into the list price of products so even if we were to pay taxes on digital products these fees would be applied on top of the list price.
They created a static payment rate of 189.99 at least for UK customers instead of applying a 20% tax based on the current value of $200 + 20% converted to Euros. This causes the actual tax rate to fluctuate due to value fluctuations. There have been days where the tax is higher or lower purely due to this fact.
Now let me make this clear, there is absolutely no difference between paying in Pounds or Euros. The physical numbers may change but the underlying values are constant. 200 dollars is always going to be 200 dollars whether you pay in Euros or Pounds. The only varying factor is that the price is fixed at 189.99 Euros which is a number they chose for whatever reason at the time to be $200 + 20%. The value differences are not from Euros costing more or less than pounds.
I had asked for this question to be detailed by Billing but in order to do so they need to have a few detailed descriptions of different issues and questions that need to be answered. Give them here and hopefully we can get a response to some of them.
Hero of the North pack - $250
Guardian pack - $72.50
Why is EU forced to pay this equivalent price; why don't the billing team modify the EU prices to match those of US equivalents?
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I understand that, but why don't they lower the price for EU customers to compensate.
So the VAT is still applied, but totals the US equivalent.
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Because it would result in less profits for PWE...You are essentially asking that PWE pay the taxes for you.
You could look at it that way but I'm looking at it as PWE are choosing to allow EU to have to pay 25% extra for their game because they're not from the US.
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