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How much would you pay for a new race?

varrvarrvarrvarr Member Posts: 385 Arc User
edited December 2012 in General Discussion (PC)
How much are you willing to pay for new races? Looking at the other Cryptic shops costumes in CO go for 475 zen ($4.75) and species in STO go for 600 zen ($6.00). I'd rather split the difference between the two and pay 500 zen ($5.00) for races in NW. I'd be willing to pay more for more for a playable Satyr, but that's just a personal preference.
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited November 2012
    varrvarr wrote: »
    How much are you willing to pay for new races? Looking at the other Cryptic shops costumes in CO go for 475 zen ($4.75) and species in STO go for 600 zen ($6.00). I'd rather split the difference between the two and pay 500 zen ($5.00) for races in NW. I'd be willing to pay more for more for a playable Satyr, but that's just a personal preference.

    $5.00 sounds good to me, as long as it is account unlock and not per created character.
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  • varrvarrvarrvarr Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    zebular wrote: »
    $5.00 sounds good to me, as long as it is account unlock and not per created character.

    It is by account in the other two games, so I would hope it would be in NW too. But that's of course conjecture on my part.
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  • ranncoreranncore Member, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 2,508
    edited November 2012
    Zero. Denying users content in F2P mmos is archaic. I'll pay for vanity and convenience items, the first time I'm denied content or offered a pay2win item I'll be gone.
  • alfrunaalfruna Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I do not mind paying for specialty classes or races in online games if they are ones that are added to the game after the initial launch (Such as the Freeblood in EQ2). Gaming companies are businesses and have the right to make enough money to cover the cost of business and make a profit. That being said, I WOULD be very unhappy with a game that only gave one or two starting races and you had to purchase anything beyond that.

    As for what I will pay? $5, maybe a bit more if it was something really incredible.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited November 2012
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  • shiaikashiaika Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    varrvarr wrote: »
    How much are you willing to pay for new races? Looking at the other Cryptic shops costumes in CO go for 475 zen ($4.75) and species in STO go for 600 zen ($6.00). I'd rather split the difference between the two and pay 500 zen ($5.00) for races in NW. I'd be willing to pay more for more for a playable Satyr, but that's just a personal preference.
    $5.00 sounds cheap enough to be interesting. I'd prefer not to pay for new races though. Better races than classes but all the content should be free.

    As much money as a race or class may make, consumables and vanity stuff generate more (in the long run) and generate less friction with the players. I'd not rage quit if they were to add classes/races but a true free to play game that only sells you consumables/vanity and that has real solid content (without real content who cares?) seems far better than F2P games in which you have to buy races, classes, adventures... and whose vanilla content is dubious.
  • pilf3rpilf3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I wouldn't seeing as I feel races and classes are a basic part of content that should be assessable to all if the game is truly f2p.
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  • varrvarrvarrvarr Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The obvious next question is, is paying for races a game breaker? My answer is no. Agian, I'd rather pay for things like races than lockboxes.
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  • bghostbghost Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    nothing this a free to play game. would rather pay for extras than content.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The cash shop has not been discussed by devs yet. Saying races are paid is pure speculation. However, check this link. D&D Races are not flavor but they effect stats and give bonus favorable to certain roles and class.

    That is something to keep in mind before making a speculation.
  • pilf3rpilf3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    varrvarr wrote: »
    The obvious next question is, is paying for races a game breaker? My answer is no. Agian, I'd rather pay for things like races than lockboxes.

    I can agree with that. I would rather pay for extra classes than have lockboxes in the game too. That said I don't think they will sell classes or races.
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  • varrvarrvarrvarr Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    It is speculation I agree, but that's all we have to go on.
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  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    varrvarr wrote: »
    It is speculation I agree, but that's all we have to go on.
    That is true. Also the last reply from devs was not very confident on it. So it is even possible that they do not have all the details on cash shop figured out yet.
  • syfylissyfylis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Cash shop is a tricky thing, I remember mmo called "Loong" which was great mmo but one they they did cash shop update with everything that would take you several months to get and in few hours lot of people quit.
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  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    While I might not consider paying for a race, I did mention this hybrid class I would consider paying for.
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  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited November 2012
    $5 is what I would pay for an additional race (or most classes) as long as it was account unlocked.

    We should all remember that it really doesn't matter if this game is free to play in title or not. That means it is free to play, free to pay but you're not by any means guaranteed every bit of content. If that was the case neither Cryptic or PWE would make any money from the last few years of expenses.

    To point out the obvious which some of you may have overlooked, companies need to make money. Any contnet which doesn't help gain revenue in some clear way will by definition be a low priority.
    I want a lot of races and classes to be put into this game. The only realistic way to have this happen is if it was worth Cryptic/PWE's time to create such content.

    Core Classes and races should remain free, but we shouldn't expect all races and classes to be free or I guarantee we won't have many at all.

    So as you stand on solid ground declaring you won't pay for playable content know you are declaring that additional playable content would be fewer and far between as well as ensuring despicable content such as lock boxes would be far more prevelant.
  • valas625valas625 Member Posts: 195 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2012
    ambisinisterr wrote: »
    To point out the obvious which some of you may have overlooked, companies need to make money. Any contnet which doesn't help gain revenue in some clear way will by definition be a low priority.
    I want a lot of races and classes to be put into this game. The only realistic way to have this happen is if it was worth Cryptic/PWE's time to create such content.....So as you stand on solid ground declaring you won't pay for playable content know you are declaring that additional playable content would be fewer and far between as well as ensuring despicable content such as lock boxes would be far more prevelant.

    Ya know Ambis, I've said this a half dozen times over and yet people still declare they won't pay for anything, it should all be free. Gotta love that sense of entitlement. Comon' people, we all want a great game. So throw a few bucks at them instead of Mcdee's, and lets get tons of great content out of this game!
  • neowolfenneowolfen Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 68
    edited November 2012
    ambisinisterr wrote: »
    $5 is what I would pay for an additional race (or most classes) as long as it was account unlocked.

    Id agree with that with special emphasis on the ACCOUNT wide unlock.
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  • valas625valas625 Member Posts: 195 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2012
    neowolfen wrote: »
    Id agree with that with special emphasis on the ACCOUNT wide unlock.

    Well yea, it just wouldn't be worth it to give them 5 bucks EVERY time you wanted to make a character. They'd be lucky if they didn't get laughed off the market for that.
  • varrvarrvarrvarr Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    neowolfen wrote: »
    Id agree with that with special emphasis on the ACCOUNT wide unlock.

    I think that is vital for most things we buy in the shop. I'd rather pay a little bit more for something in the shop, be it a race or an outfit and have it open to all of my characters on my account then pay small amounts all the time to have the same item, outfit or race for a new character.
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  • neowolfenneowolfen Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 68
    edited November 2012
    valas625 wrote: »
    Well yea, it just wouldn't be worth it to give them 5 bucks EVERY time you wanted to make a character. They'd be lucky if they didn't get laughed off the market for that.

    I agree, but they've done it before :)
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  • nemesis788450nemesis788450 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    100 gold pieces
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Up to 10 euro for Genasi (with subraces). 5 Euro for every other race.
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  • vindiconvindicon Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Nothing.

    Monetising actual content in a game designed from the ground up as f2p is unacceptable. That kind of business model is for games designed as p2p then go f2p, and it should stay there (and even there it's appaling). If you charge players that want to play a specific race or class, then your game is simply not free to play. Period.
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  • nimlohnimloh Member Posts: 177 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2012
    I have no problem with exclusive races that require purchase. I don't consider race to be a part of "content"--it's not germane to any of the modes of gameplay. It would be a little odd for someone who worked up a couple of characters of standard races to end-game without purchasing anything to then be told the game is not free-to-play.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited November 2012
    zebular wrote: »
    $5.00 sounds good to me, as long as it is account unlock and not per created character.
    Yeah, just wanted to expand on my earlier response. I too would rather see all the standard races be included in normal, free game play. However, for non-launch and more rare races (Illithid, Dragonborn, Centaur, Minotaur, etc) I wouldn't mind having to unlock them on my account for a reasonable fee, which I feel around $5.00 would be acceptable.

    Mind ye, I'd much rather just have them all be free but I understand the need to make money and charging for rare races might be an additional source of revenue, as long as they're not over-priced.
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited November 2012
    Lets to try and keep the discussion of the F2P model to the other threads specific to that topic. I understand that this particular thread's topic is one that is easily manipulated but it truly just boils down to the question at hand, "What would you pay?" We don't need multiple threads discussing the F2P Model.

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  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    zebular wrote: »
    That's good info any all, but lets to try and keep the discussion of the F2P model to the other threads specific to that topic. I understand that this particular thread's topic is one that is easily manipulated but it truly just boils down to the question at hand, "What would you pay?" We don't need multiple threads discussing the F2P Model.

    ...

    It was a reply to #26 and #27, the former one being started by opener itself. So I thought I would reply. But I do agree it is off-topic and won't post here again.
  • illuminariiilluminarii Member, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Way off topic - but I love that animation.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited November 2012
    gillrmn wrote: »
    It was a reply to #26 and #27, the former one being started by opener itself. So I thought I would reply. But I do agree it is off-topic and won't post here again.
    I see.. those slipped by me! Taken care of, thanks!
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