Thats the kind of videos cryptic should do, about classes, races, game features, foundry, etc...
About the video.... well everytime i see a new video more i like the game Cnat wait to get my hands-on
I think it did a great job doing a simple 'this is what we're offering' explanation compared to the interview videos.
Don't get me wrong I love the interview videos and find them even more invaluable for information on the game as a whole but this was just perfectly concise and informative on the class itself. They really didn't give any new information but I still feel like I understand the system a lot better after watching that class spotlight.
*This is a copy-paste from the Fighter forums, I just posted this there and then I saw this thread*
Fighter seems a fun class to play, however I have some negative thoughts so far. Mostly because I saw an ability in a video where the Fighter grows in size. I think it's a daily power. Growing in size looks like a magical ability and not a martial one. And I saw in this trailer the ground slam ability with all these rocks emerging from the ground. Maybe it's just a visual effect and they are not meant to be actual rocks. But overall I have the fear that they will make a Fighter class with abilities that look "magical" in a way. Anyone else agrees?
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Yes it says creates a fissue, but then throws up jagged rocks, I suppose just having a gap open up under the mob was not flashy enough, might be better as hitting the ground with shield creating a wave of force (dust)spreading outwards knocking them over.
Mind thats minor for me still looks great.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] I am not evil, I am just cursed.
heh as a tank player in almost every mmo this video looks great, out of other mmos i played i would say the lancer from Tera was the most fun tank class thus far, this looks to rival it.
Ok.. so this is cool and all that. Impressive even. But I don't care much. Guardian fighter... we've known that for ages. How about doing something radical, like... showing us something new???
I don't care about anything that has already been announced. That doesn't get me excited about the game.
Come on Cryptic. Throw us a bone here. How about a little more about other classes, character creation or whatever. Something new the forums could talk about.
Ok.. so this is cool and all that. Impressive even. But I don't care much. Guardian fighter... we've known that for ages. How about doing something radical, like... showing us something new???
I don't care about anything that has already been announced. That doesn't get me excited about the game.
Come on Cryptic. Throw us a bone here. How about a little more about other classes, character creation or whatever. Something new the forums could talk about.
Vires Animi
You will probably see one every other week or so leading up to beta, it's standard practice.
While the video is cool, etc. What actually worries me is -
"The Guardian Fighter...", "His first Encounter ability ...", etc.
It seems like we will be picking hard locked classes and leveling will be automatic as well. I hope I hope I hope that is not true, but the video sounds like the classes are locked down as far as powers/feats.
Sure it says that you will have many feats/powers, but we know that as you level up you get additional encounter, daily, etc. powers. My fear is that hey are all chosen for you and your choice of what to use is based on what you have.
D&D should allow us to Gimp ourselves to death if we want.
I really hope I am wrong about it, but it sounds like skills/feats are chosen for you and your choice is pick "Two handed Fighter" or "Guardian Fighter", then the name does the rest.
I really hope I am wrong about it, but it sounds like skills/feats are chosen for you and your choice is pick "Two handed Fighter" or "Guardian Fighter", then the name does the rest.
Someone took a screenshot at a con awhile back that showed an early "powers" window. It appears that you will get more powers then you can actually use. So it seems that we have the ability as a "Great Weapon Fighter" or "Guardian Fighter", etc, to make some powers selections, offering some customization for our characters.
Someone took a screenshot at a con awhile back that showed an early "powers" window. It appears that you will get more powers then you can actually use. So it seems that we have the ability as a "Great Weapon Fighter" or "Guardian Fighter", etc, to make some powers selections, offering some customization for our characters.
Well, again as you level up you get more daily, encounter, etc. powers. Your choice is which one you 'slot' but the powers could very well be auto-assigned to you as you level based upon your class choice. I hope not, but it sounds that way.
Well, again as you level up you get more daily, encounter, etc. powers. Your choice is which one you 'slot' but the powers could very well be auto-assigned to you as you level based upon your class choice. I hope not, but it sounds that way.
Same here I'm hoping for a conventional D&D approach of getting a list of available (multiple) feats and picking what you want. Similar to DDO, and nothing like Lotro.....bleh!
Same here I'm hoping for a conventional D&D approach of getting a list of available (multiple) feats and picking what you want. Similar to DDO, and nothing like Lotro.....bleh!
I think we all are. D&D has always had character customization and specialization as a key aspect and it could be argued that aspect is more iconic to being D&D than "kill the monsters, get the loot."
Haha.
Although there's been no official confirmation CrypticMapolis has said that since their other games have such "robust" character creation we should expect similar from NW.
So vague...yet so hopeful.
I'm not saying it will be a total deal breaker if character builds are mapped out for us, but it will definately affect my longevity of play in the game.
I've got to say, if they did this because they felt Fighters didn't have enough visual feedback and got lost in the effects of other classes, I'd much rather they tone down the other classes than do this to the Fighter. Whoo boy.
I'm not saying it will be a total deal breaker if character builds are mapped out for us, but it will definately affect my longevity of play in the game.
Watching the powers tray the powers on the fighter changed from one scene to the next so my guess is there will be a few abilities to choose from for people based on the situation they are entering.
Watching the powers tray the powers on the fighter changed from one scene to the next so my guess is there will be a few abilities to choose from for people based on the situation they are entering.
It was more along the line of the ability to select different build options. You will get different basics, low cool down and daily attacks as you progress which can be switched around without a doubt.
The real question is whther we'll be able to choose which abilities we get rather than be stuck in "Guardian Fighter gets these abilities at these levels, period."
That's the next big question we're all dieing to have answered.
It was more along the line of the ability to select different build options. You will get different basics, low cool down and daily attacks as you progress which can be switched around without a doubt.
The real question is whther we'll be able to choose which abilities we get rather than be stuck in "Guardian Fighter gets these abilities at these levels, period."
That's the next big question we're all dieing to have answered.
... aka the Essentials Fighter... aka the suckage... aka "not subscribing"
Well Cleave and Tide Of Iron are pre-essentials At Will powers so there's some hope. Unfortunately they are also not the best of the mainstream 4e At Wills. Brash Strike and Dual Strike outshine them substantially. Well at least Tide Of Iron is somewhat decent.
It was more along the line of the ability to select different build options. You will get different basics, low cool down and daily attacks as you progress which can be switched around without a doubt.
The real question is whther we'll be able to choose which abilities we get rather than be stuck in "Guardian Fighter gets these abilities at these levels, period."
That's the next big question we're all dieing to have answered.
Sadly I am not very optimistic about that. And I am saying that based in a video I watched. I am providing you with the link, go to 1:41 and check for yourself. It appears that you get specific abilities at a specific level and you don't seem to be able to pick from a pool of options.
"Clever Fighters can even use the powers to corral foes into advantageous clusters, making them more easily dispatched by the other members of the team."
It was more along the line of the ability to select different build options. You will get different basics, low cool down and daily attacks as you progress which can be switched around without a doubt.
The real question is whther we'll be able to choose which abilities we get rather than be stuck in "Guardian Fighter gets these abilities at these levels, period."
That's the next big question we're all dieing to have answered.
We will be given powers as we level up (we've seen screens shots of this). You don't get a choose which powers you get. You only choose from the pool of powers that the game gives. This is the same as D&D 4E and any class-based game, except to degree--not every power in the pen-and-paper game is NW.
NW's powers system is streamlined. Unless Feat selection provides some actual powers, be prepared for less customization then you want.
(I don't know where the screenshots are located. I will look later after work when I have time.)
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About the video.... well everytime i see a new video more i like the game
I think it did a great job doing a simple 'this is what we're offering' explanation compared to the interview videos.
Don't get me wrong I love the interview videos and find them even more invaluable for information on the game as a whole but this was just perfectly concise and informative on the class itself. They really didn't give any new information but I still feel like I understand the system a lot better after watching that class spotlight.
Come on, beta. Even if I'm not in, begin!!! (and let us know that you began)
Neverwinter Thieves Guild
There will be 2 handed weapons
aye one of the mods stated he couldnt wait to show us the great weapon fighter
Fighter seems a fun class to play, however I have some negative thoughts so far. Mostly because I saw an ability in a video where the Fighter grows in size. I think it's a daily power. Growing in size looks like a magical ability and not a martial one. And I saw in this trailer the ground slam ability with all these rocks emerging from the ground. Maybe it's just a visual effect and they are not meant to be actual rocks. But overall I have the fear that they will make a Fighter class with abilities that look "magical" in a way. Anyone else agrees?
Yes it says creates a fissue, but then throws up jagged rocks, I suppose just having a gap open up under the mob was not flashy enough, might be better as hitting the ground with shield creating a wave of force (dust)spreading outwards knocking them over.
Mind thats minor for me still looks great.
I don't care about anything that has already been announced. That doesn't get me excited about the game.
Come on Cryptic. Throw us a bone here. How about a little more about other classes, character creation or whatever. Something new the forums could talk about.
Vires Animi
You will probably see one every other week or so leading up to beta, it's standard practice.
"The Guardian Fighter...", "His first Encounter ability ...", etc.
It seems like we will be picking hard locked classes and leveling will be automatic as well. I hope I hope I hope that is not true, but the video sounds like the classes are locked down as far as powers/feats.
Sure it says that you will have many feats/powers, but we know that as you level up you get additional encounter, daily, etc. powers. My fear is that hey are all chosen for you and your choice of what to use is based on what you have.
D&D should allow us to Gimp ourselves to death if we want.
I really hope I am wrong about it, but it sounds like skills/feats are chosen for you and your choice is pick "Two handed Fighter" or "Guardian Fighter", then the name does the rest.
Someone took a screenshot at a con awhile back that showed an early "powers" window. It appears that you will get more powers then you can actually use. So it seems that we have the ability as a "Great Weapon Fighter" or "Guardian Fighter", etc, to make some powers selections, offering some customization for our characters.
Well, again as you level up you get more daily, encounter, etc. powers. Your choice is which one you 'slot' but the powers could very well be auto-assigned to you as you level based upon your class choice. I hope not, but it sounds that way.
Same here I'm hoping for a conventional D&D approach of getting a list of available (multiple) feats and picking what you want. Similar to DDO, and nothing like Lotro.....bleh!
I think we all are. D&D has always had character customization and specialization as a key aspect and it could be argued that aspect is more iconic to being D&D than "kill the monsters, get the loot."
Haha.
Although there's been no official confirmation CrypticMapolis has said that since their other games have such "robust" character creation we should expect similar from NW.
So vague...yet so hopeful.
But other than those it's pretty much how I always figured a Fighter in action should actually look.
Nice!
Watching the powers tray the powers on the fighter changed from one scene to the next so my guess is there will be a few abilities to choose from for people based on the situation they are entering.
It was more along the line of the ability to select different build options. You will get different basics, low cool down and daily attacks as you progress which can be switched around without a doubt.
The real question is whther we'll be able to choose which abilities we get rather than be stuck in "Guardian Fighter gets these abilities at these levels, period."
That's the next big question we're all dieing to have answered.
... aka the Essentials Fighter... aka the suckage... aka "not subscribing"
Well Cleave and Tide Of Iron are pre-essentials At Will powers so there's some hope. Unfortunately they are also not the best of the mainstream 4e At Wills. Brash Strike and Dual Strike outshine them substantially. Well at least Tide Of Iron is somewhat decent.
Sadly I am not very optimistic about that. And I am saying that based in a video I watched. I am providing you with the link, go to 1:41 and check for yourself. It appears that you get specific abilities at a specific level and you don't seem to be able to pick from a pool of options.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8vNMqSWF1aU#
"Clever Fighters can even use the powers to corral foes into advantageous clusters, making them more easily dispatched by the other members of the team."
We will be given powers as we level up (we've seen screens shots of this). You don't get a choose which powers you get. You only choose from the pool of powers that the game gives. This is the same as D&D 4E and any class-based game, except to degree--not every power in the pen-and-paper game is NW.
NW's powers system is streamlined. Unless Feat selection provides some actual powers, be prepared for less customization then you want.
(I don't know where the screenshots are located. I will look later after work when I have time.)