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Offer Legion Weapons in Campaign Store to Alleviate Anxiety from low RNG
quickfoot
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I would like to suggest offering the new Legion weapon set in the campaign store for m19. The current drop rate on maps is reminiscent of original lure drop rates in Chult, and the chance to get the weapons in the chest remind me of the rng to get Alabaster's set from m16. Both of these poor drop rates were adjusted because they led to a bad player experience. I think, psychologically speaking, this is because there is no "end" in sight, it can be depressing and lead to anxiety, the experience is just a never ending stream of badness.
As for the price for Legion weapons, I would suggest 10,000-20,000 scrap for each and some of the hammers and/or other mats from the 2 bosses (mog/garyx) for each the main and the off hand. I think this would be sufficient and it would take any normal player at least 2 weeks to obtain either, and by then the idea is that they would have got the other from a chest. I think a "dedicated" player could probably get enough currency in a week for one of the items.
The reason for offering them in the store is that players can set their goals according to their schedule and pace, they can see their progression and there is no longer a bottomless pit of rng. This way you can also leave the rng as it is, some people will get lucky and not have to buy anything, most will have to buy one piece, and some will have to buy both, but at least there is a path for everyone.
@nitocris83 can you maybe pass this idea along for consideration?
Thx for Reading.
As for the price for Legion weapons, I would suggest 10,000-20,000 scrap for each and some of the hammers and/or other mats from the 2 bosses (mog/garyx) for each the main and the off hand. I think this would be sufficient and it would take any normal player at least 2 weeks to obtain either, and by then the idea is that they would have got the other from a chest. I think a "dedicated" player could probably get enough currency in a week for one of the items.
The reason for offering them in the store is that players can set their goals according to their schedule and pace, they can see their progression and there is no longer a bottomless pit of rng. This way you can also leave the rng as it is, some people will get lucky and not have to buy anything, most will have to buy one piece, and some will have to buy both, but at least there is a path for everyone.
@nitocris83 can you maybe pass this idea along for consideration?
Thx for Reading.
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I gave it a fair run before judging. But stacking an abyssmal RNG on another RNG? I couldn't tell you how many mobs I've farmed and how many maps I've opened. I've spent almost every evening since release just farming and when your mates receive their mainhand on their first map? I'm happy for them, but honestly, its just defeating. I'm ready to put the game aside beyond completing my weekly currency cap.
The RNGs should be limited to unbound items, in my opinions, so at least you have an option to farm currency, such as AD, to purchase in the AH.
There's a guarantee programmed into the refinement process after so many attempts. I'm not a programmer, but I can imagine using similar programming to guarantee one of your class weapons after opening so many maps. This at least cuts back on one of the RNG's, and setting a goal to achieve, and end in sight if you will, while still being at the mercy of only one RNG god.
TLDR; Double stacking RNGs=Frustrating, defeated.
with mod 16 it took me one night to complete the campaign, yet almost 3 months farming to get the alabaster set
rage of bel, the dented rod..again a month of running 6x bel runs per day to get the rod, after spending 50 hours in insurgencies to get the battle worn rod.
no matter what the sought after item my 'rng' is always simply awful, and while rng items withing rng items, may seem like fun to some developer, to any player that constantly has 'bad luck', it is simply frustrating to the point where we stop playing and go elsewhere for something more entertaining or rewarding.
people have complained about this process for years now, and yes we get told it will be fed back at meetings, but really i can't see that anyone is listening, when you just persist mod after mod with this riduculous 'russian doll rng'..it doesn't get any better, it just gets worse.
Game critical items should never we subject to that without any drop guarantee. Weapons *always* are game critical.
The way it is done in ToMM with currency drop next to actual weapons drop is fine, then you have a guarantee to get the goodie in the end.
Or alternatively, let the maps drop a high chance(50%) currency used to buy the weapons. Then you can be fairly sure to get the weapons in a reasonable time.
> What i hate the most , is the fact that Legion's weapon set power is based on how many people have it.Its rarity contradicts its power.It is pure agony to get it, and once u get it, to use it at its full potential u need to find other playersthat suffered with low odds to get the same weapon set.
It's all about the IL and increased weapon damage. The bonus of all the new weapon sets are trash.
but i just dont see the point anymore in playing a game that continues to demoralise me, and paying for the privelige.
so much is broken, bugged or screwed up by inept coding, add to that all the rng within rng making drop 'rates' incalculably small for 'necessary' items - finally convinced me to pack it in, and take my cash and go look for something better that i will actually enjoy playing.
well done cryptic.
If I may add as well, I have been reading in other places how "veteran" players do not like some of the changes, and how some things are now purchasable in the Zen store, even if just for brief periods.
These "veteran" players feel it is a betrayal that the developers have made Dragonborn accessible or level 80 buyable.
This what is necessary if you want relatively new players to reach endgame material in a "quick" fashion.
For some, even after spending hundreds of dollars they will never reach endgame material... learning how to add in Runestones, Companions, Mounts, is no overnight feat.
The learning curve is still very real... the content completion is still necessary... it would take a thousand dollars to pay for all the content completions and max out runestones and companions and mounts and bags on just one character... anyone that is willing to pay that amount for those things, I tip my hat to them.
I'm glad some will as they are keeping the game alive for me and you to play.
So next time you see a noob running around with a thousand dollars worth of stuff on their character, be nice, they are the ones buying your stuff on the market and keeping the game alive for you to play.
players with full set weapons are cheating 100% the quest map
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> until it happens to you - repeatedly
i never cheating the quest and i dont care for the weapons set i will skip the game again for 1 year is boring and dead
i dont even know that quest with the treasure maps till guildies and allies tell me that
this developers are the worst they cant even make the game good so players can have some fun
Could you validate please if this weapons are already in the game for OP please?
I have already open 178 maps on my OP and nothing at all. It's abused when you see than all other classes drop their weapons for 3 times less.
Thanks in advance.
Eleonore - CW Mof Renegade 17.5k
Harlgard le Vieux - OP Prot 18.3k
Valrik - DC AC 18.2k
Furiela - SW Temp 18.1k
W.A.I
and have gotten ZERO maps in an hour. So if I manage to get one, what
are my odds of getting a weapon? ...And then the offhand? Well, it's ZERO.
I liked Chult... Once they fixed the t-rex fang drops.
But then Chult was wide open with lots of small dungeons and variety.
Update: To be fair, I got three maps just last hour.
already given up on legion set as i have had to give up running cr lomm tic tomm and now zuriels
i refuse to put another cent into the game so chances are my toon wont become much more powerfull as cost of upgrading runestones/enhancements is very real