I’m A 16K SW and mad that my character has been so nerfed, but……….. It’s a good thing for the game so I can live with it. We had to take a nerf because no other classes were being played due to low DPS output. I understand the Dev’s reasoning. I don’t whine about it. I’m still usually am in the top 2 DPS. Especially when there are only 2 DPS. Lol. I like the fact HR’s CW’s and even (DPS) GF are doing damage now. TR’s still have a ways to go. Anybody who is still complaining should start a new character and transfer your enchantments. I personally will always run my SW as my main regardless of the nerfs. Now it’s a challenge to be top DPS. I love it.
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Have a pally since mod 6, 11k item level but its soooo boring playing with a op
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With healing depression at 75% we dont have time to do anything, we are just dead meat. No burst damage or cc, nothing to fight. Also 20k+ ArPen needed just to start making some damage... I've tried all paths... still havent figure out how a SW can pvp this mod.
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@etelgrin : no need to make this thread SB vs HB. I could answer that no class/player can win a SB on 1 vs 1 where HBs dies more easily or that SB spirits do more damage than any HB paragon feat/power.
Maybe we should focus of how we can solve the riddle of mod 12b and what our new role is. With 9k ArPen, armor classes wont even feel our attacks. If you dont believe me, go to preview and check it. They reach 90% resistance.
If we stack deflect, we can go up to ~70% with ~60% severity but with no fire power, we are sitting ducks.
If we stack LS, we can go up to ~80% but with no attack and 75% healing depression, we get hamster heals.
If we stack power and ArPen, we do some damage but we die in one rotation by almost all.
Options like going cc spec or pvp support templocks are laughables.
Shall we get the air weapon set and start running from node to node, helping the team capture nodes without actually fighting?
Shall we just continue to play pvp and be the target pratice or the last pick on premades just to fill the spot?
..or maybe shall we just change class?
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Joke aside, I think our class could be the most balanced (nice sustained damage but no crazy melting damage anymore) but the problem is that some other classes, when properly played, keep on doing crazy damage (every few seconds), which leads:
- to SW frustration when comparing the damage dealt at the same level of skill; I don't call for a nerf but if other classes are still able to do crazy damage, why aren't we allowed to do the same (and even more on bosses because we are crappy on low-HP targets)?
- to SWs giving up because not picked or desired for end-game dungeons (why bother taking a SW outcast when you can have a better dps?)
I hope the devs will consider soon all the recent threads made by disappointed SWs. There have been some fixes on SW powers that are still not implemented on the live server but other classes have also received some fixes. I don't know how the new gap will be but I anticipate a worsening .
I am able to run end-game dungeons because I am in a nice guild but finding a party is a big issue for the SWs that don't have many resources.
And I don't even talk about pvp....
When a fbi finishes 16 minutes or under then i dont buy that sw sucks ( i remind soulbinder).
I have very poor upload to prove my point with a video>
Hellbringers templocks are in bad place after what they did to owlbear ( dev where are you to answer).
TO9G still new on xbox but we did 3 run between 24-26 minutes each(second week the dung was available) with 1 SW at first dps. The SW is still a beast
TO9G still new on xbox but we did 3 run between 24-26 minutes each(second week the dung was available) with 1 SW at first dps. The SW is still a beast
Like you said it yourself, you don't play the class so you aren't aware of its weaknesses vs other (and better) damage dealers.
> When a fbi finishes 16 minutes or under then i dont buy that sw sucks ( i remind soulbinder)
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> Except that if that same group has a different striker fbi will be completed in 10 minutes or less.
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> Like you said it yourself, you don't play the class so you aren't aware of its weaknesses vs other (and better) damage dealers.
you are downplaying the SW abit to much mate. True we are the weakest of the striker classes but the difference isnt 16 min fbi to 10 min fbi if you switch out the SW.
> Well, according to the devs, they are planning on doing things for the TR and SW. In fact, it was why they said they weren't bringing out a new class. I welcome any type of buff or rework because it is well overdue. The duck in a plate/TT nerf 10.5 deal in my opinion was really lazy. and what are u gonna do with it now with the owlbear nerf? I hope more is done than what we've had to work with now...
Nope there is no plan for sw only HR to make the best one target dps
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En réponse à @kimmywomen et @Rico56170
La priorité des développeurs concernant l'équilibrage des classe est le Voleur fourbe, pour qu'il soit le meilleur DPS mono-cible !"
"The priority for devs concerning class balance is Theft so it can be best one target dps"
No love for sw, sorry to disapoint.
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Time for a new forum signature.
Thanks for all the fish devs.
Andorra Bell
Ex-Sw of The Holy Crusaders.
P.S. Hey, at least there is a patronage system, right?
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Sorry i had to LOL there. The reason why sw can still do "decent" dps is because of the OBC comp and dc/gf/pally buffs. Now take all that away and compare with other striker class and even support class such as GF and pally (LOLOL)... you'll see how big sw are nerfed.
Oh btw... are you aware that too many stuff/things are broken af (not working properly) hehe.
I wish i could find a way to get all my money back that i've spend on my sw. This amount of nerfs is unacceptable !!
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I think we talk about different ways to build a warlock in general, crit vs noncrit.
I run a 100% crit. The only reason I bought OBC was the fact, that i use PoP to buff. There is no other benefit in my build from OBC except this proc by running PoP. Not sure what percentage it deals, maybe 10%...forgot.
Warlocks dps is inferior to most other striker I think, but hard to tell how much.
It is a fact that most top WL on PC stopped posting and/or stripped their locks to switch to another class or left the game. That's enough evidence to prove : Warlock is worse in most aspects as a striker, despite what some forummember state.
Maybe they simply get out-dps'd by a better player and assume warlock is fine?
I think the class is more balanced atm but needs buffs if it wants to compete vs overpowered ones.
PVP is dead , so no need to discuss the weakness of the class at this point.
Some players utilize Pop as buff element.
Some utilize as debuff + dps.
Some utilize as dps, buff and debuff all in one.
And some have gameplay around PoP. Thats mean, when they fight regardless if they are fury or tempatation builds. They try keep enemies within PoP effect area as long they can.
And since PoP where unable to land crit, it where 100% assurance to trigger PoP regardless if you have full crit build or not.
So different gameplay lead to different outcome OBC provide.
For some OBC nerf lead to 35~40% dmg lose.
For some OBC nerf lead to just ~10% dmg lose.
So different gameplay lead to different outcome and eventually different feedback
you maybe Pop provide buffs, but for other players even non templocks, PoP provide Buffs, debuffs + dps. This part mostly depend on players gameplay.
So you can hear that for one SW OBC nerf = 30/40% over all dmg lose. For some just ~10% dmg lose. And difference of gameplays lead to different outcomes and eventually different feedback .
As for pvp side, I agree on that by default. Neverwinter online pvp is overbroken..
“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Gustave Le Bon.
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Ind'a Nie, 16,5k SW left the boat. Have fun guys and good luck for the future of SW
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