Some - not all - DCs got a non-voluntary reset of powers and skill?

kalindra · May 2017

Did we hit some buttons by accident or why are the powers and skills two out of three DCs from two players now reset?
If that's supposed to be some bonus, why not all toons or at least alls DCs?
And as a compensation for what - what was nerfed so much as to require such a move?

And btw.; could we please just get a free respec at the rewards trader in the PE next time?
It's terrible inconvenient to jump in a dungeon with a full reset, unknowingly and with out time to respec - not to mention all the bother to search for the build, which some players probably have long forgotten.

beckylunatic · May 2017

Seems to be an unintentional interaction with loadouts, as much as anyone's been able to figure out thus far.

Not only DCs though. Someone mentioned it on a GF. Someone else suggested it happened to all their characters.

litaaers · May 2017

This may be a mistake. Did you explore the Loadouts before this happened?

When you use the pull down to switch the loadout for the first time, it uses the free respec for that loadout. Since your character gear hasn't changed, it may LOOK like you reset your powers and feats, but it really just the unspec'd new loadout.

Or it could be something else.

When they offer a free respec, its because something has to change NOW. To let people play with their existing spec would defeat the purpose of forcing the respec.

pitshade · May 2017

I logged in after work and went through my characters, the two DCs were fine the first time around. The second invocation round, both had the 'reset' pop ups. Nothing was done with loadouts. The only thing I did on both, the first time around was to check to see if they had free respecs. Neither did.

litaaers · May 2017

@nitocris83

What is likely what happened to these people:

The people renamed their existing loadout and pressed the button next to the lower text box, 'Make Current', thinking it was a 'Save' button. So, they switched loadouts, which causes the new loadout to respec automatically. and they think its the original.

Can someone check to verify?

Perhaps a non-intuitive UI, but not a bug.

Also, there is no prohibition against naming the Loadouts the exact same name, which might cause more confusion.

lantern22 · May 2017

Mine had all its feats etc reset - I hadn't used the free respect yet, not sure if that matters.

Also I didn't notice the warning message when I first logged in and did incants but I did the second time.

pitshade · May 2017

This isn't related to messing with loadouts at all. I had it happen to both of my clerics and neither did anything with the loadout feature.

litaaers · May 2017

The only other thing I can think of is that they forgot to take out the bit of code that reset DC's from last build.

beckylunatic · May 2017

pitshade said:
This isn't related to messing with loadouts at all. I had it happen to both of my clerics and neither did anything with the loadout feature.

Yup, happened to my DC when I logged her in for a second invoke, having previously done nothing, not opened any UI elements except for invoking.

I mean, I was basically expecting it, but I assure certain parties that I didn't misunderstand anything.

I was carrying a free respec, which I even still have. Feats and powers were reset, but it did not function as a full respec, retaining paragon choice, ability scores, and boons (about the only thing I might have changed!).

arabatur · May 2017

Luckily for me the game has become so alt unfriendly that my DC getting a reset didn't affect invoking or professions.

pitshade · May 2017

That annoyed me as well, Becky. I would have liked to have changed Stat point alotment from WIS/CHA TO WIS/STR for the current build (DPS/easy content) and go with an AC build with the current stats for tougher things. But instead I just had to spend time rebuilding her on an already busy weeknight.

litaaers · May 2017

beckylunatic said:

I mean, I was basically expecting it, but I assure certain parties that I didn't misunderstand anything.

Sorry for the confusion. I tried it on a character that hadn't logged in, and I was able to repro the described symptoms, but only my new loadout was affected. I should have thrown in a caveat.

rickcase276 · May 2017

Yes, it happened the same way to two of my clerics on my second invoke yesterday, both are righteous builds (one AC and one DO), so maybe it is one of the righteous feats that is causing the issue? I did not do anything with loadouts or any of that, and it did not affect my AC/virtuous DC. But it did it too on preview with the build they put on two weeks ago, the one where Terremak said it messed up a few characters, but would not go live. Maybe it went live?

stevedudeman · May 2017

Yesterday, at 11b launch, my AC DC was forced to respec both the 'New 1' and 'Original' loadouts. I thought this was strange but not a huge deal...I only had time to do the original loadout respec yesterday and it went fine. Today, I decided to go with a DO loadout for the 'New 1' slot. Everything was ok until I traveled to the WoD to check out my new dps. When I got there, all of my powers and feats in the 'New 1' slot were reset, waiting for me to respec yet again...My original loadout seems fine. On a side note, both were specced righteous.

asterotg · May 2017

I had an AC DC build. Waiting for a MSVH group to fill up, I did switch to my second loadout and did a DO DC build.

In MSVH I switched back to AC and my powers and feats where reset. Just power and feats. Boons and skill points were the same as before. I was the only DC in the group. We did the run with my DO DC, but really?

adinosii · May 2017

litaaers said:
@nitocris83

What is likely what happened to these people:

The people renamed their existing loadout and pressed the button next to the lower text box, 'Make Current', thinking it was a 'Save' button. So, they switched loadouts, which causes the new loadout to respec automatically. and they think its the original.

No.

This is not what happened. On second login the primary loadout got partially wiped - that is, feats and powers were gone. Boons were not affected,

reg1981 · May 2017

Neither of my DCs required being spec'd out again and I touched the loadout button on both when it was leaked out to live!!

litaaers · May 2017

adinosii said:

No.

This is not what happened.

litaaers said:

Sorry for the confusion. I tried it on a character that hadn't logged in, and I was able to repro the described symptoms, but only my new loadout was affected. I should have thrown in a caveat.

Perhaps you missed this?

darthbbq · May 2017

Only my DC had this issue with resetting Powers and Feats.

dread4moor · May 2017

Happened to my DC also AFTER I had made the Loadout already. I have 90 power points. it takes me half an hour to reset! Frakin waste of time.

dupeks · May 2017

Happened twice to me for my DC, both times after I had finished spec'ing.

I recommend putting a single power point and feat point and moving between maps. Saves time if you get reset.

I second this thing having to do with free respecs (maybe depending on whether you used the free DC respec following the balance changes)

pterias · May 2017

Happened to me too. All I did was log into the same DC twice and powers and feats got reset. I'm actually glad though, because after I respecced from the DC rework, I had a couple regrets on the feats I chose. This gave me a free chance to fix those without wasting a respect token.

lantern22 · May 2017

dupeks said:
Happened twice to me for my DC, both times after I had finished spec'ing.

I recommend putting a single power point and feat point and moving between maps. Saves time if you get reset.

I second this thing having to do with free respecs (maybe depending on whether you used the free DC respec following the balance changes)

I had this happen just now - I set all my feats and powers, changed maps and everything got reset

beckylunatic · May 2017

On my main DC, it happened once per loadout. I was anticipating it based on reports, so I expected to have to reset her in order to be playable again. There were no issues after the initial unwanted reset. I know what my build is so the only annoyance for me was all the damned clicking.

With the second loadout, I assigned one feat point and one power point, relogged to trigger the "reset" notice (relogging or changing maps works), then made the actual build. I don't anticipate further issues with this either.

I would advise that anyone buying further loadouts for a DC take the precaution of intentionally triggering a reset after assigning minimal points, at least until this is confirmed as fixed.

One further observation, I have a level 55 DC alt that mostly sits idle. This character also has a free respec pending from the last time they were issued, but has not been reset despite having been logged in and out at least daily since the 11b launch. There is some further interaction causing the forced reset. To my recollection, my unaffected alt is too "young" to have been impacted by any release in which Cryptic executed a forced respec, and I wonder if there's any correlation there.

Some - not all - DCs got a non-voluntary reset of powers and skill?

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