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Still mad having to buy zen for coalescent wards.

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  • sundance777sundance777 Member Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    It is a free market system and is it controlled by both supply and demand which makes the market a bit more complex but I feel like this thread hits most of the major points.

    Supply of AD definitely goes up during 2x AD, but that does not mean the AD will be turned into Zen as there may or may not be a demand for Zen, there are many other places to put the AD like the auction house. The demand for AD (to me anyway) seems fairly constant, we all want more AD, always :)

    The demand for Zen seems to go up when things in the ZM go on sale, which might imply people are not willing to pay the full retail price, the supply of zen goes up when people add more cash (especially when Zen is on sale) or when they decide they want to turn their zen into AD via the Zax.

    These two factors seem to swing the market much more than the supply or demand of AD. During the 50% off ZM sale the cost of Zen went up to as high as 450 +/- and this week it went all the way back down to 240+/-, I think it was like 280 this morning.




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  • d4rkh0rs3d4rkh0rs3 Member Posts: 382 Arc User
    @krazydog#1509 even a critic would have to agree that a PS4 release coupled with (successful) class balance will snag a few extra bucks for the company.
  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    when they gave everyone 100k the adx was at about 168 not 120. the market shot up overnight when they announced no coal wards. that to me states pretty clearly that it was a matter of boycott.

    it's pretty cut and dried. the cause and effect were evident if you were actively tracking the market. before the coal ward thing I was actively day trading. because the market was pretty predictable. since the coal ward venture it's been erratic.
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  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    well it was a bit steadier than that. just erratic.. not daytradable. the reason it dropped like it did was numerous sales including a 50 percent off sale. people actually dug into their wallets and spent. dunno. it might be enough people are over their anger or there are enough people who have yet to be angered. it might well change the tide..might get people in the habit of spending again. dunno. I wouldn't bet a dollar either way.
  • cesar#6784 cesar Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    d4rkh0rs3 said:

    @cesar#6784 yep, I agree.



    Remember those consecutive 2x AD, 2x Salvage we had on xbox around that time? It was Cryptic's way of stimulating the economy with the release of Underdark, as you mentioned.



    The next 2x AD or 2x Salvage on xbox is going to create a mess, haha! Buy Zen now! (That is if you have any left after 50% off and 2x Enchants + Key sale.)

    When I saw the potential profit from the coming 50% off, I invested in a few things. I started with around 12700 Zen when it kicked off, and as of today that turned into 27000 Zen. No joke; I just played with the stuff that everybody needs and was patient.

    I'm definitely looking forward to the next 2x AD mess.
  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User

    d4rkh0rs3 said:

    @cesar#6784 yep, I agree.



    Remember those consecutive 2x AD, 2x Salvage we had on xbox around that time? It was Cryptic's way of stimulating the economy with the release of Underdark, as you mentioned.



    The next 2x AD or 2x Salvage on xbox is going to create a mess, haha! Buy Zen now! (That is if you have any left after 50% off and 2x Enchants + Key sale.)

    When I saw the potential profit from the coming 50% off, I invested in a few things. I started with around 12700 Zen when it kicked off, and as of today that turned into 27000 Zen. No joke; I just played with the stuff that everybody needs and was patient.

    I'm definitely looking forward to the next 2x AD mess.
    When the 2x hits ill be ready to make myself 4k, hopefully maxed. :3
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  • lorespadelorespade Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    well they had a 50% sale not that long ago. 500 zen for a coal ward. so i bought like 30 of them.then zen dropped. pretty glad i cashed out when i did. so many keys bought too. Hey Zen is pretty low right now. just Zex all your AD into Zen and wait for prices to rise and then cash out and buy some wards off the tradehouse. Grind your AD, and sell what you can on the tradehouse. heck buy cheap stuff and resell it. Bottled dyes are on the cheep side of bidding right now. thanks to yours truly. never know when someone will go and buy up the platinum statuettes and bowls so sell those too if you dont need or want the gold from the vendor. and to be honest, $10 for a coal ward isnt the real cost. i only put in $70 into the game when it first came out, i am always flush and always selling something for AD on the tradehouse. find a market and work it. and it will work for you.
  • randdothedrowranddothedrow Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    Even with a 3% chance I only use pres wards. In over a years time I have never used more than 91 Pres on a single upgrade at that low of a probability ( I was starting to get sick to my stomach by then ). I only use coalescent on 1% chances and have even been super lucky on refining a weapon enchantment with a single pres ward. Multiple characters praying will yield better chances at coalescent drops in celestial coffers. 5 toons have gotten me 3 coal wards in the last 3 weeks. Best payout I've gotten in this game in the last 4 months
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