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a9d2fa9d2f Member Posts: 63 Arc User
I've noticed a lot of threads on this forum covering the same topics, over and over, and now I'm curious. To all of the people who are angry about one or more of the following:

1) Coalgate
2) Leadership Nerf
3) Quartermaster/DHE Enchant Nerf
4) PVP imbalances
5) Bug reports/Feedback being ignored
6) Reduce/Reuse/Recycle of Content
7) Foundry in disrepair
8) Reduction of rewards to help drive coal ward sales
9) Bad RNG

Why are you still playing this game? Is it guild loyalty? Inertia? Hope that eventually the devs will get on track? Or just not angry anymore? Thanks.
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  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    Simplest answer is usually the most correct: Because they choose to.
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  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    I judge a game by the parts I like, not the parts I don't.

    So, sure there are parts and decisions made in this game, that have both annoyed and upset me. But the overall package is still entertaining enough to keep me here. After all, no game is perfect, there will always be parts I dislike. If I let that rule me, id never play anything.

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  • demonmongerdemonmonger Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,350 Arc User
    We stopped spending money on it...
    Last 200.00 bucks I dropped into this game was October 2015.

    I spent so much money to upgrade artifacts to maximize my regeneration, just to see regeneration stop working in combat.

    Also I bought a lightning enchantment just to use with smoke bomb (tr skill). Then one patch all enchantments except vorpal stopped working with smoke bomb.
    I was super upset, made several posts about it and got no answer.

    Wicked reminder was a true aoe skill(would hit unlimited monster clustered in range)
    Got merged to hit only hit 5 monsters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-UyjaI-wB0

    I won't be paying anything here anymore.
    This company has lost my trust.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    I hate paying taxes! Why must I pay thousands of dollars in taxes when everything I buy is taxed anyways!
  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    because i dont know about better game for me. but still have some hope, although dev post in pvp section about no promises is driving me crazy. we have broken game and they tell us "no promises" , hope its only default placeholder answer when closing topic. PS is almost live and they still tell us no promises wowowowwowow
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  • lantern22lantern22 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,111 Arc User

    I judge a game by the parts I like, not the parts I don't.

    +1


    There's nothing really about this game that has made me angry (although I'm reserving a small angry slot for the upcoming class balances). Even getting stuck with 250 account bound preservation wards when I wanted to use them to upgrade enchants isn't that upsetting.

    When I levelled a CW so I could play a DPS toon, only to get to level 70 around the time of the Storm Spell nerf - that didn't make me angry, its still a fun class to play and does enough DPS for me

    Its a game, and its enjoyable, so I play it.

    I try and avoid disappointment by going with vanilla stuff (like a vorpal enchant and an augment), I'll let others chase the triple chocolate fudge glory stuff.

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  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    Because stupid people and stupid decisions make me angry. And we have seen too much of both since the game launched. As I said in another thread, show me another F2P MMO set in Faerun that has comparable graphics and combat system and I'll drop NW like a bad habit.
    Our pain is self chosen.

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  • demonmongerdemonmonger Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,350 Arc User
    I spent more than 200... initially all I did was to better serve my friends in game then my guild.

    I play because it passes time, and I have hope that something nice will happen before the servers shut down for good.
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  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    I think some of us give feedback on the forums, in hopes that some of our actual feedback is used in terms of changing qol of neverwinter.

    This doesnt mean we get into the game and stir up a frenzy in our guilds/channels , most of us just basically play the game, talk about family.work, friends, theorycraft a little, ask a few questions and come back day after day.

    I get upset when long time players leave , as I have a long list of friends from year 1, no longer playing, or taking longer breaks. Every time a player like that leaves, it takes hundreds of new players to filter one into that group again.

    Most new players dont reach the end game community at all. Well whats left of end game anyways.

    Im simply not that upset as it may picture here, Im quite negative about alot of changes they have done, because I believe progression and power curve is both too gated and too elongated.

    They should shorten both, they simply invest too much time into playing one toon here and not one player. This game wasnt like that until mod 4 and its only gotten worse and worse, as they elongate power curve , they make it harder to play more then one toon.

    Ive played many mmos, and if I cant play a few toons at once, to me, its simply not a mmo I want to play, Ive been here awhile, so I have enough assests to make my toons playable, but I know new players would be kinda screwed out of it now.

  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    Not one of the nerfs did 'hurt' my playing experience. I play since beta and I have everything I need and more. I even did give RP etc to friends, bc I dont need them and I dont need the ADs, I would get, if I sell them.

    BUT this changes hurt newer players. This changes hurt players, who still need to upgrade things, gear up etc. They effect me, bc many good players stopped playing bc one of the 'adjustments' tipped the scale and made them leave.

    If I see another nerf, like the newest Quartermaster BoA 'adjustment'. I think, while the stacks of R5s, R6s etc. I got doubled in RP/AD value, if they keep this up, there wont be anyone around running dungeons with me in a short time.
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  • yokki1yokki1 Member Posts: 451 Arc User
    u forgot the many times of bait and switch on your list
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    RP hurts, they simply do not DROP enough with regular game play, you shouldnt have to invest millions of AD to get RP for artifacts, I dont think thats a good way, they already did this with RP for regular artifact gear and thats enough fo a bottleneck.

    They said they were going to up to drop chance, but lets be real, none of us really felt that change at all.

    I dont understand why more doesnt drop for regular runs, a chance roll may net you 2 per dungeon you run, you would have to run.. oh say ten million dungeons for the RP you need =P.


  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    I am not angry and enjoy the game

  • checkmatein3checkmatein3 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 525 Arc User
    Why am I still playing this game? You know...I ask myself that question all the time, so I will give it a shot.

    First, I have a sucky computer and no Xbox, Playstation, or whatnot. So, a lot of these other high graphics games would chew up my integrated video card and spit it out like a piece of popcorn stuck in your teeth.

    Second, whether good or bad, I have built a personal attachment with Neverwinter. It is not based on money spent (that is part of it), but it connects with my childhood memories of DnD, board games, and all the books I used to read. So, in one strange way, I have invested in the game to try and recapture some of those idyllic times.

    Third, there is a certain pleasure in achieving things in the game, and being an old crusty ambassador. As the weeks and months and years go by, the nostalgia for 'what was,' even the crappy stuff, is now looked back on with a laugh. To go to a different game would require me to start all over again.

    Fourth, the fighting mechanics are still some of my favorite. I tried to go back to the slotted targetting of all the old MMOs, and it feels unnatural now.

    Fifth, I have friends in the game. Some are acquaintenances. Some are nemesi (spelling?). But, they all add flavor/color, and enrich the whole game's milieu. When the game loses players, for me, it is less about group content and more about an empty experience... We live in a digital age, connecting, rightly or wrongly, people from across the globe and shoving us all together into this imaginary world. I still prefer the world Neverwinter is providing.

    Sixth, there are some genre games I don't like: space and tech themed, goofy looking graphics, PCs that look like you are playing a 2 year old with hair 3x the size, and some games lose sight of the genre they are in (*cough cough....World of you know what... *cough). As these are my preferences, not absolutes, I find the game's design and style fits exactly what I like.
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  • kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    a9d2f said:

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    Why are you still playing this game? Is it guild loyalty? Inertia? Hope that eventually the devs will get on track? Or just not angry anymore? Thanks.

    I did quit for a time. Eventually I came back because, A) it's a good way to pass the time since it's free and B) I have good friends and an amazing guild that I enjoying being a part of.

    Will I pay for this game? Hell no. It's so not worth spending money on. Cryptic makes a science out of ignoring it's customer's wishes. No way will I let my money go toward supporting a company that intentionally and constantly shows how little it cares for it's customers. That's crazy. So, while I play the game and am willing to be a customer again, I'm not right now. I'm merely a player.

    I'd like to give my money to Cryptic. I would. Really. I have certainly given plenty over the many years of playing STO and NW, but not any more - not until they start embracing their customers rather than hoping we'll shut up and stop bothering them.
  • silence1xsilence1x Member Posts: 1,503 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    lirithiel said:

    Because stupid people and stupid decisions make me angry. And we have seen too much of both since the game launched. As I said in another thread, show me another F2P MMO set in Faerun that has comparable graphics and combat system and I'll drop NW like a bad habit.

    Agreed lirithiel. Nicely done .
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  • mynaammynaam Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 937 Arc User
    I continue to play because this is a great game.

    I am negative in my posts because in my opinion some future game braking events are taking place ... PVP/Foundry/Class inballence/No New Dungeons forever/Old dungeons not back/CN is now a demonic encounter ........

    I must also say they do get somethings right. the alliance update(with non guild changes too) was a big surprize to me(I thought it was going to be a fail). In my oppinion it had more usable changes than any of the previous 2 mods.
    There are more than BIS players in this game
    RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
    FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
    Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)



  • duryntedurynte Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    I am not actually angry about anything, but I'd like to add.

    I feel, besides those things that sometimes make me wonder how they came about, overall it's fun to have a character in Cryptic's Faerun. There is lot to explore, a lot to turn your attention to. And if it happens to feel grindy, you are free to try a different class on a different chapter of the stories offered.

    Overall I am of the opinion that a lot of the fun of Cryptic's Faerun is about patience.
  • sm0ld3rsm0ld3r Member Posts: 236 Arc User
    a9d2f said:

    I've noticed a lot of threads on this forum covering the same topics, over and over, and now I'm curious. To all of the people who are angry about one or more of the following:

    1) Coalgate
    2) Leadership Nerf
    3) Quartermaster/DHE Enchant Nerf
    4) PVP imbalances
    5) Bug reports/Feedback being ignored
    6) Reduce/Reuse/Recycle of Content
    7) Foundry in disrepair
    8) Reduction of rewards to help drive coal ward sales
    9) Bad RNG

    Why are you still playing this game? Is it guild loyalty? Inertia? Hope that eventually the devs will get on track? Or just not angry anymore? Thanks.


    Who said they are playing anymore? I've gone through 10 different guilds and barely anyone on my friends list logs in. I think they lost a huge amount of their players. I have seen some churn of new folks that have only played for a few months, but they will be gone pretty soon too.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,467 Arc User
    I am not angry. For me, those changes are part of the course. I cannot stop it and I cannot change it. I don't get angry easily for something I cannot control. For me, if there is a change, there is an opportunity. I usually can find a way to take advantage of it before and after it happens. I am also not in a hurry. I do like the guild/community I am in, one of the big reasons why I keep playing.
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  • torontodavetorontodave Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 992 Arc User
    I see the game for what it could be.
    NW-DSQ39N5SJ - 'To Infinity, and BEYOND!' - Spelljammer Quest. Skyships, Indiana Jones moments
    NW-DC9R4J5EH - 'The Black Pearl' - Spelljammer! Phlo Riders and Space Orcs
    Thanks for all the fish.
  • klangeddinklangeddin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    Just wait the day when guild boon nerf will happen.
    They know they are overpowered, and purposedly left them overpowered since mod 7 to lure the top dogs in burning millions and millions of AD. Once they see the AD burning stops completely they will suddenly "realize" that maybe those boons will need balancing after all, and the outcry will be so loud that we'll see a second spellplague.
  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    People dont seem to get we are / were the beta test for them to get the game on xbox and then PlayStation as soon as possible
    in and interview with a dev he commented that they had to "learn" how to do the conversion to Ps4 it probably took way longer then anticipated
    Now they can back track and chose what content they want to focus on / fix / go over bugs that were skipped over
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  • abrams121abrams121 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 90 Arc User
    I will probably watch their live stream tomorrow. If they spend too much time talking about PS4 and not what their plans are to fix this game. It may make my decision to leave easier once mod 10 flops.

    I do like the games play style, and the people in my guild are awesome too. Those are the reasons why I still play.
  • solbergxsolbergx Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    Man i have played MMO since 1999, and this is the best i have found, you can actually move like in real life, you can jump and dodge attacks, its amazing!!
    Although i would change some things on pvp!! But overall the experience its nice!!
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