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Trickster Rouge Daily Is Overpower !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ajiiim
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People can not dodge their DAILY that always 1 hit other players. You guys should make something about this . I know some of the dev have TR and will not agree with this *sigh* but its for the balance of the pvp . And also the Binding Oath . are they bugged or something ?????? Cant even dmg them . unless ppl have lile all rank12 =.=
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TR have the highest crit, highest speed, highest deflection, highest severity, they can ignore any damage reduction, hide in shadow while attacking, extreamly high control strength and can one hit kill you if they want.
but its not overpowerd, its like this for several years now
ring of umbush is is ovepowerd
ring of cowerdice is overpowered
AP drain is overpowerd
stamina drain is overpowered
maybe you have been attacked with a TR that have one of the above items and you are confused
be able to 1-Shot someone is definition of OverP. SE which can ignore everything is basically a winning Button.
> People can not dodge their DAILY that always 1 hit other players. You guys should make something about this . I know some of the dev have TR and will not agree with this *sigh* but its for the balance of the pvp . And also the Binding Oath . are they
bugged or something ?????? Cant even dmg them . unless ppl have lile all rank12 =.=
Just get shadowclad. At least you will have a good chance to avoid it.
Seriously though, SE is dodgeable (easily) and blockable by Gfs and OP's. The only classes which have the right to complain are GWF and SW, since they actually can't do anything about it. That said, it should be changed to at least respect tenacity.
Last week, i did few 1v1 in IWD with guildies, when an OP 2.7k with PVE gear, not a Bubble, came interfere in this friendly match. We were 3 TR, 2.5-3K. It took us 8 minutes for kill him. 8 mn for kill a PVE boy.
Maybe we need to learn to play, maybe there are ploblems with others classes too.
If you are not an immortal DC, an immortal OP, an OS-GF, a good SW, or a Speed Demon GWF, sure, it's a problem.
I understand you, it's not fun to be one-shotted. But, SE still a Daily. No one to complain about 150k encounters form other classes ?
LOL.
As a combat TR, even the very complicated mod 4 was better balanced than today.
> I understand you, it's not fun to be one-shotted. But, SE still a Daily. No one to complain about 150k encounters form other classes ?
Yep, SE is a daily... that resets faster then encounters. That's LOL All know what i'm talking about)
So i guess GF hits you for 150K encounter if he catchs you right? Or GWF land IBS with all stacks, bonuses, let say 1 IBS succesfuly hit out 100 atempts. And good part of it you will resist/deflect. Don't you? But all you need is press one button even with no aim/timing and boom GWF/SW dead. If not dead, pop DC sigl and repeat. It was told so many times on this forum but anyway new nubs still comming here and say that is fair. AHAHAHA
they need more crit, speed, control, severity, deflect shadow time etc.
its not fair they only have SE
SE is not "one button and boum, over". It's "one button, and i hope i can take away more than 30% of his HP" in my case.
I don't use Drains, Rings, i don't use Sabo-stealth-piercings, i don't use DCSigil, and i always hated the Perma-stealth TR, since Beta. It's not my fun. Yeah, i have a very not optimised build, and it's my vision of my class, i don't complain. I like challenge, even if i die very often, in some cases, it's fun.
SE is not in my skill bar, i use it only when the enemy is in a 3.5k+ drains/rings team (i'm 3K). Or against guildies for tests.
I don't do pvp for competition, i do pvp for fun, so, i don't care about all of this, but, you, all of you, don't be hypocrits.
We are in a game with immortals, stealth rings, drains, perma-daze, broken enchants, guys with 20k arp, 40k+ power, 150k HP.
Guys, we are i an game where a healer can heal a Node or a Catapult. Where Defenders do more damages than strikers.
I dont come here to say "SE is fair". I say "why SE should be fair when all the rest isn't". In the best of worlds, SE should be a finisher, like "if your target have less than 20% HP, damages from your SE are piercings damages, if not, SE damages are mitigated by tenacity".
There is no balanced class. All class have imbalanced things. And you know what ? They don't care. How many complains posts ? How many changes ?
More you complain, more they make money with broken things.
> So i guess GF hits you for 150K encounter if he catchs you right? Or GWF land IBS with all stacks, bonuses, let say 1 IBS succesfuly hit out 100 atempts. And good part of it you will resist/deflect. Don't you? But all you need is press one button even with no aim/timing and boom GWF/SW dead. If not dead, pop DC sigl and repeat. It was told so many times on this forum but anyway new nubs still comming here and say that is fair. AHAHAHA
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> Since i'm not a Max-stealth TR, those GF are more invisible than me. I have no problem with GWFs, they are strong, they can run like Barry Allen despite their big sword, but a good GWF need skill in a 1v1 without drains and rings.
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> SE is not "one button and boum, over". It's "one button, and i hope i can take away more than 30% of his HP" in my case.
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> I don't use Drains, Rings, i don't use Sabo-stealth-piercings, i don't use DCSigil, and i always hated the Perma-stealth TR, since Beta. It's not my fun. Yeah, i have a very not optimised build, and it's my vision of my class, i don't complain. I like challenge, even if i die very often, in some cases, it's fun.
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> SE is not in my skill bar, i use it only when the enemy is in a 3.5k+ drains/rings team (i'm 3K). Or against guildies for tests.
> I don't do pvp for competition, i do pvp for fun, so, i don't care about all of this, but, you, all of you, don't be hypocrits.
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> We are in a game with immortals, stealth rings, drains, perma-daze, broken enchants, guys with 20k arp, 40k+ power, 150k HP.
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> Guys, we are i an game where a healer can heal a Node or a Catapult. Where Defenders do more damages than strikers.
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> I dont come here to say "SE is fair". I say "why SE should be fair when all the rest isn't". In the best of worlds, SE should be a finisher, like "if your target have less than 20% HP, damages from your SE are piercings damages, if not, SE damages are mitigated by tenacity".
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> There is no balanced class. All class have imbalanced things. And you know what ? They don't care. How many complains posts ? How many changes ?
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> More you complain, more they make money with broken things.
Exactly. Why not wearing shadow must be fair if other <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> around?
you are right SE must be finisher but since mod 5 it's a starter( insta dead or almost dead ) Rayrdan knows very well about it and how to build it.
To Rayrday: it doesn't matter how hard at wills hit if you got 1 shoted. Continue to play dumb. You are good in it)
Se is fine as it is....
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Some players can reach those amounts thanks to 2 other sources:
- ITF (obviously)
- DCs debuffs.</blockquote>
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yes with the GWF being fully stacked (means 10 stacks from unstoppable+ destoyer's purpose+hidden dagger+battlefury) + buffed by ITF and target debuffed it is possible to hit such an amount on low tenacity players but did you know when the same buff/debuffed being applied TR's SE can hit 350k damage and that ignores all resist? Tardii has done it and one shots 210k HP OP or a BiS CW in shield, surprised...?
Btw, did I also mentioned TR can perform those SE every 9~10 seconds? (Daily Power? lol) Yes, they can cast SE more often than my encounters....
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I am also complaining about the cooldown of this daily....
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lets take all the GWFs here. Other than SE, TR is not doing damage against you period and you know it too. Toe to toe GWF will wipe the floor with any TR that doesn't use it. You have more damage in toe to toe fights and alot more tankiness. TRs do not get the combo that leads up to an awesome damage encounter. Again this is all stuff you know.
As has been said a billion times already. SE is lame and piercing is dumb. However, take that power away from TRs currently and not add any compensation, you should just delete class from pvp.
I get it, right now the only think that really take you all out of fight is a first strike TR stacked with power. With no dodge on your class, it is lame way to die. But lets not kid ourselves about balance if shocking is straight up nerfed without anything else given to TR.