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Dread vs Vorpal
Curious if anyone has done any significant testing with this yet. I've done a mild amount, and can confirm that Dread will boost the DoT damage of things such as root damage and Gushing wound damage. However, I haven't done enough yet to see which enchantment benefits more from Lostmauth set, or whether the higher crit severity from Dread on our encounters outweighs the loss of crit severity on our at-wills (Careful Attack, in particular), since Dread *only* boosts encounter powers severity (which is why it's rubbish for classes such as GWF who rely heavily on at-wills).
Generally speaking, as a Trapper, Careful Attack (CA) does minimal damage while soloing or in small groups, but in larger groups or raids (i.e. eDemo, demonic HEs, Tiamat, etc.), CA's damage can easily make up 15% or more of my dps. Tough call, IMO.
Generally speaking, as a Trapper, Careful Attack (CA) does minimal damage while soloing or in small groups, but in larger groups or raids (i.e. eDemo, demonic HEs, Tiamat, etc.), CA's damage can easily make up 15% or more of my dps. Tough call, IMO.
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As for %s, even at Greater levels, surely the HR has 66% of it's damage from encounters/DoTs, doesn't it?
Assuming you're running AoTS / AotP as your class abilities; Seismic + whatever else for dailies; and standard encounters of Hindering, Cordon/Plant, and Constricting/Steel (or Longstrider's/Gushing), damage from encounters + Thorned Roots + Gushing DoT + Lostmauth is the majority of damage.
I'm not sure your at-wills (Careful only really gets silly in large-scale encounters, and even then only about 15% of total dps) + dailies will equate to the remaining 33% of your damage, will it? What else am I missing here?
Biggest downside is that Hunter's Teamwork no longer hits for over 15k crits.
Only other thing I see is a descriptional bug, or maybe a performance bug (but highly doubt it) that: makes the DoT applied (25% of my Weapon Damage every second for 4 seconds) stack up to 4 times, and only does the full 25% when it is at 4 stacks.
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2. gushing should be tested in party, so far i noticed that this enchant breaks seeker ticking dot (with offhand feat) in solo mode.
3. this enchant has weird interactions with Rapid Shot.
I didn't do precise testing tho, i just wanted to check the nessesity of serious testing, but so far I consider this enchant meh for PVP, as numbers are too small on people with high tenacity and DoT damage makes it even worse pvp-wisely.
we have to understand how it works on thorned roots. I know it should not work but since its working on lostmauth set everything can happen. I, for one, cant just accept suppositions based on feelings. @wretch200 @userutf8
I switched from a perfect vorpal to a perfect dread
Some tests with act:
Does not work on at wills for sure (includes CA + its procs)
Does work on Lostmauth's IF some encounter power proc's it (again, CA proc = at will)
Work's on root ticks ==> encounters proc the roots, dread works
Since my damage when playing stuff like eLoL looks like
25% roots
35% plant growth
20% other encounters (up to even 25-30)
thats
80% of my damage times a 2,57 multiplier + 20% of my damage with a 1,82
compared to
100% of my damage times a 2,32 multiplier
So for me it definately is better in everyday use
IF you are in some large scale battle (HE's or Demo or Tiamat) then you'll be better off with a vorpal IF you use CA that is
A Stormwarden using StS on tiamat again will prefer a Dread i think (if StS still works as it used to, didnt test it since app. 1 year)
Testing on dummies with minimal other influences
Took out Serpent
Took out my Ring of rising power
Dismissed my bonding companion
Took out my glyphes
maxed my twisted set to 24 stacks before testing
Stopped when rampageing madness is on
Results:
rapid shot WITH Dread noncrit app 2000 / crit app. 3800 (thats more or less the 82% base crit i have)
LM procs of that: app. 2400 damage (thats my base weapon damage x 1,82 app.)
Constriciting arrow WITH dread app 6000 noncrit + 4800 root ticks of that
Constricting arrow WITH Dread crit app. 15000 (thats the 157 crit with dread) + 12000 root ticks of that (again the 157%)
LM procs of that: app. 3800 damage (thats my base weapon damager x 2,57 app)
rapid shot WITHOUT Dread noncrit app 2000 / crit app. 3800 (thats more or less the 82% base crit i have)
LM procs of that: app. 2400 damage (thats my base weapon damage x 1,82 app.)
Constriciting arrow WITHOUT dread app 6000 noncrit + 4800 root ticks of that
Constricting arrow WITHOUT Dread crit app. 10500 (thats the 82 crit without dread) + 8500 root ticks of that (again the 82%)
LM procs of that: app. 2500 damage (thats my base weapon damager x 1,82 app)
So, thats what i did find out...
Can be wrong, can be right... ill stick to Dread (+ shadowclad) in any case... allthough it would be easy to sell it again for 5kk+ ad and buy back a vorpal + other stuff atm.
You're free to do the testing yourself
€dith just told me:
If anybody wants specific act logs just pm me - ill provide them
Tell me skill/conditions/eq and ill try it
And pls no questions if i borrow stuff for selftesting - answer is always no
That said, we don't know if root ticks and Lostmauth set interacting with Dread is WAI. If it is, this could be the new vorpal. Just think, with Skirmisher's Gambit + T Dread, you'd be over 200% crit severity. Yikes.
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It does in fact apply to Thorned Roots. I am unsure whether it is intentional, I would hope so, but you can never be sure.
Lostmauth set is and has been broken for a while now. I have lost interest in complaining about it.
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I`m wondering about middle of the line Builds like 45-50% Crit chance (before Companion Gift procs), any idea how would Trans Dread compare to Trans Feytouched?
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My Crit is only 45% before Gift Procs which is why I have not gone back to a Vorpal yet... I figured when my Crit is much higher I would switch, but with Dread coming out in the future I am also interested in that instead of a Vorpal.
I`m still thinking of going Holy Avenger just because I like how it sounds
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Otherwise, numbers are showing Dread will win out if solo or if a small group.
Of course, the price tag on Dreads is another matter entirely...
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I use all six encounters as Combat which means at least one or two should always be off CD to use, hence quick encounter cycling.
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I knew I had seen it somewhere, thanks for reminding me where
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.