Doubt it will work this time - people are piiiiiissed
Well yeah because what they did here would be roughly analogous to MS letting everyone upgrade to windows 10 free, and once they installed it they find out they cant install any applications on it because MS left that out. You can unlock it by paying them for each app you want to be allowed to install.
Its not dye packs they left out. Its freakin Wards, wards that in some cases are 100% required to successfully perform some upgrades. You can try without them but 1% chance means a lot of wasted materials. What they have created is a enthusiast tax. The people who have drive to do the best and be the best will be the ones paying the most $$ because they wont have a choice.
This game was supposed to be a way to have fun and relax, the Strongholds release, and the grinding needed and the in game financial obligations in order to progress absolutely make it like a job. That was stressful enough (wait its a game its not supposed to be stressful) but add on to this that the only way I used to be able to afford coalescents was first teased to get cheaper and then taken away 100% yeah that sucks.
Pastor Martin Niemöller had it right, but remember, before they come for anyone, they silence all, because to have discourse, is to breed discontent.
they advertise something that pushed people to get prepared and spent tons of cash for it. then they decided to change it? if this is a scam I don't know what other words we have for this. maybe there is legal ways to turn around that?
I bet I am right in thinking the items will be added AFTER the 2xRP next week due to the fact you removed 2xAD which would have allowed players to get the diamonds needed to buy said items from the zen market.
Thought you wanted to build for the future of NWXbox not kill it in one swift move.
In particular, the Wards and Gems tab does not include Blood Rubies, Preservation Wards, or Coalescent Wards. We just wanted to let you know that this is intentional. Though they may show up at some point in the future, they are not supposed to be there with the launch of Neverwinter: Underdark on Xbox One.
As a reminder, these are different platforms and environments, each with a different history and economy.
I have $65 in the bank ready to buy zen today , not a damn chance that's happening now it's going into the other free game I play (which may also be the ONLY free to play game i play by Friday).
I find it laughable that the official line on this is "you shouldn't expect parity between PC and XBOX.". That is almost the exact opposite of what we were told when the leadership changes were made.
If it wasn't already clear, I, too, am unhappy with this stunt. I would have thought the whole companion debacle on PC would have taught ARC/PW/whoever else is making these decisions that the player base will not roll over and stand for $!?& like this.
And since I'm already here ranting, wtf is the point of having an event calendar if you're just going to change the event listed a week prior?
OMG you idiots, why the hell did you remove C wards, rubies and pres wards. This is borderline "fraud"
After the BS stunt you pulled last time with Gmops and now this, I think I'm going to MS to report your actions.
BTW, wait till people realize they pulled 2x AD off the table for this weekend too. OMG grab your pitchfork people!!! (why do we even have a calendar for anyway when you do this kind of stuff)
"XBOX turnoff"
Sorry had to come back and point out what they put up on the Calendar instead of 2xAD this weekend, Yep you guessed it 2xRP, where all us players need C wards. Talk about a last kick in the nuts to finish us off....GG PWE
Cryptic's way of saying "HAMSTER YOU XBOX COMMUNITY, HAMSTER YOU!!!"
First off, I want to say that we appreciate the continued feedback and are listening to absolutely everything that is being said right now. Our team is having discussions about the situation regarding the Trade Bar store item removals and the adjustment to the scheduled events, and are looking at what we can do. I know this isn't the answer that everyone wants right now and that swift action is requested. We aren't ready for that just yet, but are discussing options.
A full formal response will be coming (hopefully tomorrow as we continue our investigation), but we want to make sure that our community knows that we do hear everything that you are saying.
Communications Manager - Perfect World Entertainment
You know I could "almost" overlook the whole thing if not for 2 points:
1. The Glorious Resurgence lockbox is a lie in itself, it claims to contain "all the treasures of the past lockboxes", well it contains essentially no mounts anyone has interest in below Legendary status. No Axe Beak, No Giant Strider.
2. The trade bar mounts are the same story, none that people generally want beyond "maybe" the Spore Cloud.
When they get around to fixing the ward issue, maybe they can get to adding the mounts people want. I can tell you personally I'd spend money on keys for trade bars and the GR Lockbox if I had a chance at the Axe Beak or could buy one.
THAT'S how you make money PW. Give people what they WANT not take it away.
First off, I want to say that we appreciate the continued feedback and are listening to absolutely everything that is being said right now. Our team is having discussions about the situation regarding the Trade Bar store item removals and the adjustment to the scheduled events, and are looking at what we can do. I know this isn't the answer that everyone wants right now and that swift action is requested. We aren't ready for that just yet, but are discussing options.
A full formal response will be coming (hopefully tomorrow as we continue our investigation), but we want to make sure that our community knows that we do hear everything that you are saying.
First Thanks for your reply and the update of the matter. Second Please be advised that you said "hopefully tomorrow" that means that if there is no formal response please tell us or we will think that your avoiding the problem. Again Thanks for your response.
First off, I want to say that we appreciate the continued feedback and are listening to absolutely everything that is being said right now. Our team is having discussions about the situation regarding the Trade Bar store item removals and the adjustment to the scheduled events, and are looking at what we can do. I know this isn't the answer that everyone wants right now and that swift action is requested. We aren't ready for that just yet, but are discussing options.
A full formal response will be coming (hopefully tomorrow as we continue our investigation), but we want to make sure that our community knows that we do hear everything that you are saying.
Just be honest! One huge problem I have is that you just straight up lied and said Coalescent Wards would show up as 85 trade bars instead of 200 in the trade bar vendor. Now you don't even have them? What is that?! Look, if you guys are running out of money just tell us and we are likely to support you because a lot of us love the game. Lying to us is a sure fire way to get less money. I will promise you that.
What is there to investigate? Did a Tricktser Rogue steal the Coal Wards?
Please
We are not "requesting" change we are DEMANDING change!
Your Product advertised these changes and lured us in with reduced price keys and then pulled a switcheroo at the 11th hour.
Investigate how you are able to sleep at night knowing you're a Snake Oil Salesman
What there is to investigate, is what legal steps can be taken if they don't follow through with what they originally posted when people started saving trade bars. I'm sorry, I know these guys are just the messengers, but if they don't follow through, I don't doubt someone will file a class action, or at minimum, they'll be looking at a lot of charge backs thanks to XBL.
I am as disappointed as all others in this thread. I find these business practices repugnant and highly suspect. I am not one to sit a read threads all day but with the changes made by Neverwinter I had little else to do since I refuse to play until this is fixed. I would like to remind everyone that we in the Xbox Live community have an outlet with Xbox itself. I have taken the time to read the agreement we all agreed to as users and would assume that Neverwinter companies would have a similar agreement to deal with. For that reason I have lodged a complaint on the Xbox Neverwinter Forum and would encourage all players to read the thread and post useful (not hate) posts as well. I would hope that if Neverwinter does not take action that Xbox Live will. We are their customer base and they will need to deal with this as well. As a rule, Xbox Live has always been fair and I would suspect this will be no different. PC users have not had this safeguard, but we do. Flood Xbox Live with posts and complaints and they will have to take action.
I have also done other research during the day for any other actions that we as a community can take to respond to what I view as shady and possibly fraudulent business practices. I am hesitant to take in any further then Xbox Live at this time as I am hopeful that it can be resolved within the next day. I have a been reading through some prior cases involving similar practices and believe actions can be taken. At this point I recommend everyone save all posts from Neverwinter, all posts from forums addressing this issue. A paper trail will be needed if necessary. DO NOT delete the game from your consoles as it offers proof that you not only played the game but agreed to terms. Keep copies of any emails regarding this issue with Neverwinter. Save any and all receipts for money spent on this game.
I for one, as a player who has spent some money on this game and a lot of money on Xbox Live over the years ask both Neverwinter and Xbox Live to fix this game and give us what we were lead to believe we would be given. It is only fair that you live up to your advertising. We played and spent money in good faith and it is only reasonable that we should expect that same good faith in return.
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Its not dye packs they left out. Its freakin Wards, wards that in some cases are 100% required to successfully perform some upgrades. You can try without them but 1% chance means a lot of wasted materials. What they have created is a enthusiast tax. The people who have drive to do the best and be the best will be the ones paying the most $$ because they wont have a choice.
This game was supposed to be a way to have fun and relax, the Strongholds release, and the grinding needed and the in game financial obligations in order to progress absolutely make it like a job. That was stressful enough (wait its a game its not supposed to be stressful) but add on to this that the only way I used to be able to afford coalescents was first teased to get cheaper and then taken away 100% yeah that sucks.
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
if this is a scam I don't know what other words we have for this. maybe there is legal ways to turn around that?
DENIAL
The key glitch was on PC as well so what does that validate?
Thought you wanted to build for the future of NWXbox not kill it in one swift move.
I am neither here nor there, for I am NevrCene
NevrCene: TRMelisandre: SW
Brienne: GWF
Guild : Mystic Dawn (GH20)
If it wasn't already clear, I, too, am unhappy with this stunt. I would have thought the whole companion debacle on PC would have taught ARC/PW/whoever else is making these decisions that the player base will not roll over and stand for $!?& like this.
And since I'm already here ranting, wtf is the point of having an event calendar if you're just going to change the event listed a week prior?
I'm not unsympathetic. welcome to the world of being shafted 6 ways from sunday by the unscrupulous actions of those in charge.
take solace in the knowledge that us PC players have been screwed over many more times than you have, and for a lot longer.
First off, I want to say that we appreciate the continued feedback and are listening to absolutely everything that is being said right now. Our team is having discussions about the situation regarding the Trade Bar store item removals and the adjustment to the scheduled events, and are looking at what we can do. I know this isn't the answer that everyone wants right now and that swift action is requested. We aren't ready for that just yet, but are discussing options.
A full formal response will be coming (hopefully tomorrow as we continue our investigation), but we want to make sure that our community knows that we do hear everything that you are saying.
1. The Glorious Resurgence lockbox is a lie in itself, it claims to contain "all the treasures of the past lockboxes", well it contains essentially no mounts anyone has interest in below Legendary status. No Axe Beak, No Giant Strider.
2. The trade bar mounts are the same story, none that people generally want beyond "maybe" the Spore Cloud.
When they get around to fixing the ward issue, maybe they can get to adding the mounts people want. I can tell you personally I'd spend money on keys for trade bars and the GR Lockbox if I had a chance at the Axe Beak or could buy one.
THAT'S how you make money PW. Give people what they WANT not take it away.
Second Please be advised that you said "hopefully tomorrow" that means that if there is no formal response please tell us or we will think that your avoiding the problem.
Again Thanks for your response.
Please
We are not "requesting" change we are DEMANDING change!
Your Product advertised these changes and lured us in with reduced price keys and then pulled a switcheroo at the 11th hour.
Investigate how you are able to sleep at night knowing you're a Snake Oil Salesman
Xerxes - GWF
Eazy - DC
Tyrian - TR
I have also done other research during the day for any other actions that we as a community can take to respond to what I view as shady and possibly fraudulent business practices. I am hesitant to take in any further then Xbox Live at this time as I am hopeful that it can be resolved within the next day. I have a been reading through some prior cases involving similar practices and believe actions can be taken. At this point I recommend everyone save all posts from Neverwinter, all posts from forums addressing this issue. A paper trail will be needed if necessary. DO NOT delete the game from your consoles as it offers proof that you not only played the game but agreed to terms. Keep copies of any emails regarding this issue with Neverwinter. Save any and all receipts for money spent on this game.
I for one, as a player who has spent some money on this game and a lot of money on Xbox Live over the years ask both Neverwinter and Xbox Live to fix this game and give us what we were lead to believe we would be given. It is only fair that you live up to your advertising. We played and spent money in good faith and it is only reasonable that we should expect that same good faith in return.