To advertise something, showing prices and giving descriptions of these changes so that people prepare for it to then change at the last minute is not fair and bordering illegal. Last mod it was the marks of potency, now this stunt? You are losing players rapidly and those left have lost trust in Arc, who so ever thinks these low tricks up wants kicking out your door! Why release patch notes if they are not ready? This seems obviously a very devious scheme to get money out of people
Question....When are Glyphs actually going to start stacking... That was 3 mods old.. now this... seriously arc you are losing players fast and when the division comes out you are losing even more.
> @strumslinger said: > Update: We're reviewing all the feedback and are currently in discussions on next steps. The Neverwinter team aims to provide a great experience adventuring throughout the lands. More updates to follow. > > As some of you have noticed, there are a few differences between the Tarmalune Trade Bar Store on PC and Xbox. In particular, the Wards and Gems tab does not include Blood Rubies, Preservation Wards, or Coalescent Wards. We just wanted to let you know that this is intentional. Though they may show up at some point in the future, they are not supposed to be there with the launch of Neverwinter: Underdark on Xbox One. > > As a reminder, these are different platforms and environments, each with a different history and economy. Though we are constantly trying to get all versions of NW on all platforms to line up, there shouldn’t be an expectation of exact parity between multiple platforms.
I have a screenshot from the XBOX forum that says the tradebar changes coming with Underdark include coalescent wards going from 200 to 75. Actually, you guys STILL have the page on your site. I took a screenshot just to make sure nothing gets "lost" in the meantime. Can't post the link in here (it wont let me), but check the post by StrumSlinger on 18 Jan 2016 08:00:00 AM PST.
I have just read through 4 pages of rants posted within a span of 5 hours since Underdark dropped that echo nearly every frustration I am feeling right now. No, not frustration; betrayal.
Neverwinter was the reason that I logged into Xbox. Now it will be a $350 device to watch Netflix. I spent money on this game, not to get ahead but to support the devs because I love this game so much. I will be requesting a refund due to false advertising.
Everything that I have done to gear up for Underdark has been in anticipation of the drop in price of C Wards. I love the current content. I’m not even bored with it. The only thing that I was anticipating was the fact that C Wards and P Wards would be affordable. I have been saving trade bars, vorpal shards, negation shards and feytouched JUST FOR TODAY! I am crushed to the point that I will not be logging into Neverwinter again except for the remote chance that you DO THE RIGHT THING and give us what you led us to believe that we were getting.
This game is not free. And you're hurting your community. I've defended so many things because I don't think you need to give it all away, but now this is pay to play and I think I'm done.
I am not sure if most people have ANY concept of what it costs to maintain a "free Game" - the overhead alone should be a staggering with Dev Teams, engineering, marketing, designers, support etc. How do you suppose they pay their staff? In Astral Diamonds?
Dude they are not hurting for money, they are rewarding us with ingame content if we get the servers full and videos watched so thats free marketing. They dont fix most issues and bugs so Im guessing the dev/design/engineering staff is very small and mostly interns. If you do a support ticket it takes at least 3 days so I bet thats a small staff as well. When you play the game and see all the people winning from lock boxes you know money is being spent, also inspect players, there is no way to get your IL that high without spending several hundred $. Ive heard people say theyve spent thousands. This isnt a very good quality game and it should be but Im guessing theres a few PW admins with fat pockets telling underpaid staff to milk as much $ from us as they can get away with. This isnt a free AAA game theres very little being spent on overhead.
And when was the last time you've looked at the Salary of just ONE engineer?
This game is not free. And you're hurting your community. I've defended so many things because I don't think you need to give it all away, but now this is pay to play and I think I'm done.
I am not sure if most people have ANY concept of what it costs to maintain a "free Game" - the overhead alone should be a staggering with Dev Teams, engineering, marketing, designers, support etc. How do you suppose they pay their staff? In Astral Diamonds?
Dude they are not hurting for money, they are rewarding us with ingame content if we get the servers full and videos watched so thats free marketing. They dont fix most issues and bugs so Im guessing the dev/design/engineering staff is very small and mostly interns. If you do a support ticket it takes at least 3 days so I bet thats a small staff as well. When you play the game and see all the people winning from lock boxes you know money is being spent, also inspect players, there is no way to get your IL that high without spending several hundred $. Ive heard people say theyve spent thousands. This isnt a very good quality game and it should be but Im guessing theres a few PW admins with fat pockets telling underpaid staff to milk as much $ from us as they can get away with. This isnt a free AAA game theres very little being spent on overhead.
And when was the last time you've looked at the Salary of just ONE engineer?
I'm in operations, I'm willing to bet they contract that position to the lowest bid which is barely a dent in their budget.
I am telling you right now you have lost hundreds if not thousands of players due to your own stupidity. People have spent alot of money on this game for you to pull this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. You specifically stated the tb change with prices. You do understand this little change you think is not parity breeds a massive lawsuit right? People arent stupid and you duped thousands of players for your own greed. There is no history you specifically stated you wanted to catch us up to the pc yet you pull this trash? What the hell is wrong with your <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> execs? They must have <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> for brains because this is pure insanity. You have lost a humongous part of your playerbase and if you dont fix this problem within 24 hours your deem to losr alot more. Smarten up instead of being greedy.
Wow. PC here- I really hope they reconsider or at least put them back for the previous price. How awful I did check their patch notes and they say "this blog is for PC there may be differences in XBOX" but come on... a difference is the pricing is different, not that they pull items OUT. Really disgusted on your behalf right now.
Funny how the "Patch Notes" does not include these differences. I thought the purpose of "Patch Notes" was to detail what is new and what has changed.
No, the patch notes left it out in the hope to get people into the game and playing with the new content before putting them in a rage over being shafted. If anyone thinks they don't put that much thought into things, I have a bridge to sell you in front of Protectors Enclave.
Pastor Martin Niemöller had it right, but remember, before they come for anyone, they silence all, because to have discourse, is to breed discontent.
When cause all they said was "May eventually be added"
That's what they were saying before, but I think they've been shocked by the amount of rage and pushback they're getting from both hardcore 'whales' and the otherwise placid casual crowd. I'd expect something to be announced within the next 24-48 hours.
Keep making noise, note that you're wanting a refund - but perhaps wait a day before flipping the table.
Casual Gamers
Join us brothers and sisters and distant relations and confused onlookers.
Join us in the shadows where we stand mostly vigilant... although slightly distracted by our inventories. "In war, unqualified. In peace, disorganised. In death, mild irritation."
I read/find the German News about "The trade Bars will be changed" for 1.5 mounths ago. So many people Buy keys for that. I don't understand why you say now we don't put it in. Thanks for the Money I Spent in the Game for that.
Agreed! We were totally screwed on this. These were one of the only reasons I have VIP. I am no longer buying VIP. Arc can go screw themselves. Without these wards, I cannot refine jack <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> so all the stuff they give me is mostly useless. And since I can no longer advance my character, I am not playing anymore. Goodbye arc, go F yourselves
Our team is currently discussing the changes and feedback from the community regarding the Trade Bar Store change. We will keep you updated.
Translation: "Huh, they seem really angry about it this time. Maybe we were wrong to try sca.... OH, MY GOD, I'M ON FIRE. Auuugh!"
Oftentimes PW can handwave this stuff away with a sale, or double AD. Doubt it will work this time - people are piiiiiissed
Casual Gamers
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One was needed on here as well so well done OP
Last mod it was the marks of potency, now this stunt? You are losing players rapidly and those left have lost trust in Arc, who so ever thinks these low tricks up wants kicking out your door! Why release patch notes if they are not ready? This seems obviously a very devious scheme to get money out of people
https://www.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/44xrug/no_blood_ruby_or_coal_wards_in_the_xbox_tradebar/
> Update: We're reviewing all the feedback and are currently in discussions on next steps. The Neverwinter team aims to provide a great experience adventuring throughout the lands. More updates to follow.
>
> As some of you have noticed, there are a few differences between the Tarmalune Trade Bar Store on PC and Xbox. In particular, the Wards and Gems tab does not include Blood Rubies, Preservation Wards, or Coalescent Wards. We just wanted to let you know that this is intentional. Though they may show up at some point in the future, they are not supposed to be there with the launch of Neverwinter: Underdark on Xbox One.
>
> As a reminder, these are different platforms and environments, each with a different history and economy. Though we are constantly trying to get all versions of NW on all platforms to line up, there shouldn’t be an expectation of exact parity between multiple platforms.
I have a screenshot from the XBOX forum that says the tradebar changes coming with Underdark include coalescent wards going from 200 to 75. Actually, you guys STILL have the page on your site. I took a screenshot just to make sure nothing gets "lost" in the meantime. Can't post the link in here (it wont let me), but check the post by StrumSlinger on 18 Jan 2016 08:00:00 AM PST.
Go ahead, take a look.
That's your own words, on the XBOX forum.
Neverwinter was the reason that I logged into Xbox. Now it will be a $350 device to watch Netflix. I spent money on this game, not to get ahead but to support the devs because I love this game so much. I will be requesting a refund due to false advertising.
Everything that I have done to gear up for Underdark has been in anticipation of the drop in price of C Wards. I love the current content. I’m not even bored with it. The only thing that I was anticipating was the fact that C Wards and P Wards would be affordable. I have been saving trade bars, vorpal shards, negation shards and feytouched JUST FOR TODAY! I am crushed to the point that I will not be logging into Neverwinter again except for the remote chance that you DO THE RIGHT THING and give us what you led us to believe that we were getting.
Neverwinter @NeverwinterGame 5 minutes ago
Our team is currently discussing the changes and feedback from the community regarding the Trade Bar Store change. We will keep you updated.
> Calm down guys. They're going to fix it.
When cause all they said was "May eventually be added"
Thats the original post
Keep making noise, note that you're wanting a refund - but perhaps wait a day before flipping the table.
Join us brothers and sisters and distant relations and confused onlookers.
Join us in the shadows where we stand mostly vigilant... although slightly distracted by our inventories.
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JOIN US.
You advertise these Great Changes to the Trade House, THEN PUT KEYS ON SALE and then at the last second TAKE IT AWAY???
SHENNANIGANS!!!
Oftentimes PW can handwave this stuff away with a sale, or double AD. Doubt it will work this time - people are piiiiiissed
Join us brothers and sisters and distant relations and confused onlookers.
Join us in the shadows where we stand mostly vigilant... although slightly distracted by our inventories.
"In war, unqualified. In peace, disorganised. In death, mild irritation."
JOIN US.