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Rings not dropping in UD skirmishes and demogorgon
kievitz
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In 2 days I have ran several skirmishes and both demogorgon,all where ranked silver or gold and no rings were granted, only got rings from chests. Only faerzess and seals. I have capped my ichor. Do skirmishes and demogorgon always drop rings when ranked bronze silver or gold?.
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I want some answers from cryptic for it and how come they say loot scales in skirmishes and demo with how good you rank broze, silver or gold, i call BS on that.
This run and several others ive ran past 2 days have been rank gold and some had all phases gold and still rings dont drop and when they drop in gold rank they are blue +1 HAMSTER.
How do they explain it??,
I can say that the only explanation is the more geared u are the better u fare like in Heralds. Cos ive noticed also that when i have been top paingiver ive gotten epic rings. So u can take yer "team effort, loot scale by rank" HAMSTER and shove it. If cryptic has implemented a cooldown for ring drops in UD skirmishes and demogorgon i hope they at least be honest about it.
"The fight against Demogorgon is split into three different phases. Overall rewards are based upon the player’s performance in each of the phases. Our goal with this was to reward players for their efforts along every step of the fight – the harder you try, the better you’ll be rewarded. We won’t spoil what’s in store in each phase, but let’s just say that adventurers will have to protect themselves from Demogorgon’s madness or face the consequences."
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9637873-developer-blog:-demogorgon-fight
Taken straight from the developer blog, is cryptic feeding us BS?. As i understand what i read, rewards should scale with with the overall rank the party gets or is cryptic still rewarding purely those who have high IL, my guess is, yes.
Get your act together cryptic!!
-Rings do not scale with the rank (why? they are a part of the reward)
-Unless you are high or top in the end charts u get nothing or blue one both drop and chest
-Being the best in the paingiver (im HR) chart yields epics even if u rank silver??? (have ran several of these kinda skirmishes)
So in my opinion as long as you get a medal rank but are ex. top paingiver u get better rewards for yourself not the whole team. This is not what they wrote in the developer blogs
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9572853-developer-blog:-underdark-features
"Variable Rewards
It always feels good to make obvious progress as you increase in skill and tactics. As you learn and play the content this expansion, you’ll find yourself getting better, and earning higher rewards. Each of the replayable pieces of content will reward based on varying success levels. With everyone working together, the best rewards will be possible!"
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9637873-developer-blog:-demogorgon-fight
"The fight against Demogorgon is split into three different phases. Overall rewards are based upon the player’s performance in each of the phases. Our goal with this was to reward players for their efforts along every step of the fight – the harder you try, the better you’ll be rewarded. We won’t spoil what’s in store in each phase, but let’s just say that adventurers will have to protect themselves from Demogorgon’s madness or face the consequences."
I will no longer post on this subject because they childlishly avoid all questions and even posts that have legitimate questions about reward mechanics get deleted.
And the old verse "we cant reveal anything because of exploits" is not valid, the only thing that would probably happen is that the playerbase would start to criticise cryptic and PWE more for not being honest about what they write about their game.
Players would stop playing the scenarios where hopes are up but fail, because of false information given to them. Like most players i will stop running demogorgon after i get my twisted weapons, no need to run for rings that are falsely under high IL toons and not under the reward rank like they have posted.
If you cannot have no transparency you got something to hide.
I farmed EDemo with some friends. To make sure, that we get a gold reward (most of the times) we run with our stronger alts. Most of the times we rank top 3 in paingiver. In one run I was ranked 2nd in Paingiver, first in healing and 3rd in dmg taken, total rank gold and I got ... a ring +1. No +5, some +4 in hundreds of runs. A few days ago two friends breached the 2.5k IL mark with their mains and one on an alt. Guess what, the alt got his ring +5 on his 2nd or 3rd run and one of the two other guys got one after maybe 20 runs. While they do their best, their contribution, due to lack of gear and practice, is not as significant. A friend of mine, who most of the times topped Paingiver (~70 kk dmg in most runs) had no ring +5, no desireable +4 and no treaty for the boon after hundreds of runs.
This is pure RNG and it sucks.
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Why exactly would they stop now?
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Keeping the fact for themselves that the rings arent part of the reward rank mechanic is hiding it, and that they didnt tell about it in the patch is no-transparency, this is a game, but yes i still feel that, us the players have a right to know what is going on in our gameplay.
You think its alright for PWE and Cryptic and the game designers to keep information to themselves concerning gamemechanics, nerfs, etc. that affect our gameplay. I ve played multiple games online and those games that outright tell what some mechanic does or how exactly a piece of gear can be attained or its drop chance, the playerbase is more satisfied than here. If you are happy at the current situation so be it.
Really READ before you start calling out my statements. Next time they do something out of the blue, just take it as it comes, a surprise.
"Overall rewards are based upon the player’s performance in each of the phases. Our goal with this was to reward players for their efforts along every step of the fight – the harder you try, the better you’ll be rewarded."
Well what does it say?
and because the rings drop they are apart of the reward, so if the above statement is true, they should also scale with rank.
But it seems they dont, so above statement is a lie. If its not a lie, then they should explain why the rings are excluded.
You have a good line here
"I would rather been seen as a crazy eccentric who stands up for what he believes in than as a mindless sheep who stands for nothing but consumerism and conformity."
And i believe in transparency and openness. I dont think its wrong to demand it.
Running to every BI beholder I could get, never got those things.
I ended up buying the mainhand from an event box.
With every fail at a +5 drop on a character (not account), add a minuscule % to their RNG. That way, the more they try, they're bound to eventually get lucky. (sooner than the current situation)
Once the drop happens, reset RNG to usual + 0% and start over.
But
I have only gotten one +5 ring
And not the one I wanted
See what you can do about that
Some days I can run on 4 alts and not get a single ring, other days I can run a single char and get 4 rings in 6 runs (including overload).
The ranking system sucks and I never liked it.
I don't think Dragon Heralds use it because I've gotten purple stones just showing up, and got nothing being the most geared person there.
Tiamat ranking is just...So happy I'm done with that.
I so don't get the SH Dragon Flight ranking. I assume it only counts towards DPS and not healing or tanking.
Srsly?
Dont mistake transparency for privacy, although kievitz abused the sentence "..., if you have nothing to hide" Ranking in SH DF is pure dps based but does not influence rewards.
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