lol I got a feeder leveled it up to legendary and now I like it. my heart of the red dragon is at 81 so I might just get it to legendary with runes and be happy with it for now and buy another wheel of elements (what I got for a feeder) get that up to 59 and put the feeder wheel of elements into that. I don't know what is making the bigger difference wheel of elements at critical times or the lostmauth set feature. but I'm skipping thru some stuff that was giving me heartburn last week.
I've read a few posts/topics on the Artifact Feeder questions and the whole process still confuses me. Maybe I just haven't seen it layed out real clear on what I all need and what the exact steps are.
Not knowing all this I have a Rank 75 Lostmauth Horn artifact. What would the exact steps be in order to get this leveled up the fastest (and cheapest).
The part that previously confused me (because it wasn't clearly spelled out until I asked here) is that you need to level up the greens your feeders go in to.
Do as john says by getting 6 union artifacts but feed two of the 59's into another one. Do this twice so you end up with just two feeders, both at 59 with about 1.5 mil refinement points stored in them. upgrade both of these to purple. Put these purples into your Lostmauth Horn and you'll have enough points to upgrade it to orange - it should jump to 139 ready to go Mythic.
@thefiresidecat I finally got a horn for my CW, completing his set too - it made a big difference!
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Hey guys, sorry busy holiday weekend...didn't have much of a chance to jump on the forums. So I see some comments/questions about the refining process and numbers I posted earlier in the thread.
The reason I suggested bringing ArmadeonX 2nd R1 feeder to orange was because first I assumed he did not have a lot of spare AD for multiple feeders and 2nd he already had a lvl 97 he was going to feed and his end result was his main artifact was to be mythic...also anything past 99 in his 2nd feeder would of been wasted RP going into his symbol of fire since refinement points go off of RANK (he would of lost nearly 2.5-3 mill RP...which is 2.5 R59 feeder artifacts). if he would of refined the R97 plus another 2 feeders into his symbol of fire he would of been nearly 2.6 mill RP short of mythic.
The way I have done all my artifacts (8 mythics with 2 more at 139...also preparing for 2 more in Januarys x2 RP) is actually quite simple. you need 6 feeders per mythic artifact (4 r59s and 2 R60s) and ~80 R7 runestones for the 4 R59 feeders. you put 2 R59 feeders into 1st R60 which will bring it to right around ~R93 ( worth roughly 5 million RP). Now you do the same with your 2nd set of artifacts ( 2 r59 feeders into the 2nd R60). Now you have 2 artifacts at rough r93 ish that will go into the artifact you want mythic. If the artifact you wanted was green lvl 1 you may need about 300 K refinement to finish it off but that is negligible in comparison (less than 20 R7 runestones).
if you play smart you can get your hands on the most expensive parts of this refining process except the GMoP, Runestones and Wards. You can get feeder artifacts from PvP and greater marks of power, union, stability by running the Dread Ring Mini dungeons (also GMoP if you have starmetal gauntlets). R7 Runestones are typically 2k to 3K each. so cost in materials should be in the 400k to 500K AD range for upgrading an artifact to mythic, not just 139 ready to upgrade (R12 VIP GMoP - 10 x18750 = 187k, 2-3kx80 R7 Runes - 160k to 240k, then lets say another 50k for pres wards ((187k+240K+50k= 477k...if you can get the GMoP from DR you are looking at less than 300k AD to refine and fully upgrade an artifact to Mythic))
hopefully that helps clarify some questions on best practice and actual costs.
@justnk8se Thanks for the clarification. Let me try to put this in steps that try to make it even clearer (for me and for others)
What you need:
7 Artifacts of the same type (Power, Union, Stability)
Greater Marks of Potency
R7 Runestones
Preservation Wards
Greater Marks of Power, Union, and Stability
Steps to take (only feed artifacts into each other during Double RP Events):
Get Artifact 1 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
Get Artifact 2 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
Get Artifact 3 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
Get Artifact 4 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
Get Artifact 5 to Level 60 (Refine from Green to Blue to Purple)
Get Artifact 6 to Level 60 (Refine from Green to Blue to Purple)
Put Artifact 1 and 2 into Artifact 5 (Makes it around Rank 93 and worth around 5M RP)
Put Artifact 3 and 4 into Artifact 6 (Makes it around Rank 93 and worth around 5M RP)
Put Artifact 5 and 6 into Artifact 7 (Refine from Green to Orange)
If needed, finish upgrading Artifact 7 to max level and then make it mythic.
Notes:
If you already have an artifact over 60 you can use it as Artifact 5 or 6.
Always use Preservation Wards when attempting to refine
Try to find as many of the components while you play (Feeder Artifacts from PVP or Dungeons and GMoP, GMoU, GMoS from Dread Ring, etc)
Make sure to take advantage of Double RP Events and only feed artifacts into each other during these events to get the x10 bonus.
The feeder artifacts don't have to be the same artifact (ie - Lostmauth Horn) but they do need to be of the same type (Power, Union, Stability). Be sure to save the artifact that you want (Lostmauth Horn) for the final step.
My Questions on these steps:
After you put Artifact 1 and 2 into Artifact 5, do you then need to rank it all the way up to Orange before feeding it into the final artifact or do you feed it in as a Purple?
Can you explain the "Crit" concept that some have referred to? Does that effect the order with which you do these steps?
@justnk8se Thanks for the clarification. Let me try to put this in steps that try to make it even clearer (for me and for others)
What you need:
7 Artifacts of the same type (Power, Union, Stability)
Greater Marks of Potency
R7 Runestones
Preservation Wards
Greater Marks of Power, Union, and Stability
Steps to take (only feed artifacts into each other during Double RP Events):
Get Artifact 1 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
Get Artifact 2 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
Get Artifact 3 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
Get Artifact 4 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
Get Artifact 5 to Level 60 (Refine from Green to Blue to Purple)
Get Artifact 6 to Level 60 (Refine from Green to Blue to Purple)
Put Artifact 1 and 2 into Artifact 5 (Makes it around Rank 93 and worth around 5M RP)
Put Artifact 3 and 4 into Artifact 6 (Makes it around Rank 93 and worth around 5M RP)
Put Artifact 5 and 6 into Artifact 7 (Refine from Green to Orange)
If needed, finish upgrading Artifact 7 to max level and then make it mythic.
Notes:
If you already have an artifact over 60 you can use it as Artifact 5 or 6.
Always use Preservation Wards when attempting to refine
Try to find as many of the components while you play (Feeder Artifacts from PVP or Dungeons and GMoP, GMoU, GMoS from Dread Ring, etc)
Make sure to take advantage of Double RP Events and only feed artifacts into each other during these events to get the x10 bonus.
The feeder artifacts don't have to be the same artifact (ie - Lostmauth Horn) but they do need to be of the same type (Power, Union, Stability). Be sure to save the artifact that you want (Lostmauth Horn) for the final step.
My Questions on these steps:
After you put Artifact 1 and 2 into Artifact 5, do you then need to rank it all the way up to Orange before feeding it into the final artifact or do you feed it in as a Purple?
Can you explain the "Crit" concept that some have referred to? Does that effect the order with which you do these steps?
you are exactly correct on the steps needed to refine and the materials needed.
Answers to your questions:
No you do not need to rank it to Legendary using the formula above; Epic will the most cost effective.
Whenever you refine something it has a chance to crit. I haven't seen information specifying the multipliers but if something crits it has a chance to be x1.5 up to x2 the refinement amount (from my experience). Lets say you put artifacts 1 and 2 into artifact 5. Neither of the feeders crit. You then place the epic feeder into your main artifact and it crits; this would give you anywhere from 7.5 mil to over 10 million RP. in the x2 crit example you would not need feeder 3, 4 and 6. If it was a 1.5 crit; you would need to place either artifact 3 or 4 into 6 and refine 6 into the main artifact for the remaining 2-2.5 mil RP to get mythic.
Wish I had read and know all this before now, probably would have saved a lot of pain getting my Lantern and Shop Keeper up to Orange lol.
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Not knowing all this I have a Rank 75 Lostmauth Horn artifact. What would the exact steps be in order to get this leveled up the fastest (and cheapest).
Do as john says by getting 6 union artifacts but feed two of the 59's into another one. Do this twice so you end up with just two feeders, both at 59 with about 1.5 mil refinement points stored in them. upgrade both of these to purple. Put these purples into your Lostmauth Horn and you'll have enough points to upgrade it to orange - it should jump to 139 ready to go Mythic.
@thefiresidecat I finally got a horn for my CW, completing his set too - it made a big difference!
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The reason I suggested bringing ArmadeonX 2nd R1 feeder to orange was because first I assumed he did not have a lot of spare AD for multiple feeders and 2nd he already had a lvl 97 he was going to feed and his end result was his main artifact was to be mythic...also anything past 99 in his 2nd feeder would of been wasted RP going into his symbol of fire since refinement points go off of RANK (he would of lost nearly 2.5-3 mill RP...which is 2.5 R59 feeder artifacts). if he would of refined the R97 plus another 2 feeders into his symbol of fire he would of been nearly 2.6 mill RP short of mythic.
The way I have done all my artifacts (8 mythics with 2 more at 139...also preparing for 2 more in Januarys x2 RP) is actually quite simple. you need 6 feeders per mythic artifact (4 r59s and 2 R60s) and ~80 R7 runestones for the 4 R59 feeders. you put 2 R59 feeders into 1st R60 which will bring it to right around ~R93 ( worth roughly 5 million RP). Now you do the same with your 2nd set of artifacts ( 2 r59 feeders into the 2nd R60). Now you have 2 artifacts at rough r93 ish that will go into the artifact you want mythic. If the artifact you wanted was green lvl 1 you may need about 300 K refinement to finish it off but that is negligible in comparison (less than 20 R7 runestones).
if you play smart you can get your hands on the most expensive parts of this refining process except the GMoP, Runestones and Wards. You can get feeder artifacts from PvP and greater marks of power, union, stability by running the Dread Ring Mini dungeons (also GMoP if you have starmetal gauntlets). R7 Runestones are typically 2k to 3K each. so cost in materials should be in the 400k to 500K AD range for upgrading an artifact to mythic, not just 139 ready to upgrade (R12 VIP GMoP - 10 x18750 = 187k, 2-3kx80 R7 Runes - 160k to 240k, then lets say another 50k for pres wards ((187k+240K+50k= 477k...if you can get the GMoP from DR you are looking at less than 300k AD to refine and fully upgrade an artifact to Mythic))
hopefully that helps clarify some questions on best practice and actual costs.
What you need:
- 7 Artifacts of the same type (Power, Union, Stability)
- Greater Marks of Potency
- R7 Runestones
- Preservation Wards
- Greater Marks of Power, Union, and Stability
Steps to take (only feed artifacts into each other during Double RP Events):- Get Artifact 1 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
- Get Artifact 2 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
- Get Artifact 3 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
- Get Artifact 4 to Level 59 (Refine from Green to Blue)
- Get Artifact 5 to Level 60 (Refine from Green to Blue to Purple)
- Get Artifact 6 to Level 60 (Refine from Green to Blue to Purple)
- Put Artifact 1 and 2 into Artifact 5 (Makes it around Rank 93 and worth around 5M RP)
- Put Artifact 3 and 4 into Artifact 6 (Makes it around Rank 93 and worth around 5M RP)
- Put Artifact 5 and 6 into Artifact 7 (Refine from Green to Orange)
- If needed, finish upgrading Artifact 7 to max level and then make it mythic.
Notes:- If you already have an artifact over 60 you can use it as Artifact 5 or 6.
- Always use Preservation Wards when attempting to refine
- Try to find as many of the components while you play (Feeder Artifacts from PVP or Dungeons and GMoP, GMoU, GMoS from Dread Ring, etc)
- Make sure to take advantage of Double RP Events and only feed artifacts into each other during these events to get the x10 bonus.
- The feeder artifacts don't have to be the same artifact (ie - Lostmauth Horn) but they do need to be of the same type (Power, Union, Stability). Be sure to save the artifact that you want (Lostmauth Horn) for the final step.
My Questions on these steps:Answers to your questions:
No you do not need to rank it to Legendary using the formula above; Epic will the most cost effective.
Whenever you refine something it has a chance to crit. I haven't seen information specifying the multipliers but if something crits it has a chance to be x1.5 up to x2 the refinement amount (from my experience). Lets say you put artifacts 1 and 2 into artifact 5. Neither of the feeders crit. You then place the epic feeder into your main artifact and it crits; this would give you anywhere from 7.5 mil to over 10 million RP. in the x2 crit example you would not need feeder 3, 4 and 6. If it was a 1.5 crit; you would need to place either artifact 3 or 4 into 6 and refine 6 into the main artifact for the remaining 2-2.5 mil RP to get mythic.
hopefully that clarifies your questions.
edited to clarify crit examples
Now I just need to find some Feeder Artifacts (I hate PVP).
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