But I fear the removal of the wards from the zen store might increase the price for the preservation and Coalescent wards. It all depends on the average amount of trade bars dropping from a lockbox.
Are you kidding? Almost every player is VIP, some of them have more than one account. Preservation Wards will be cheap as HAMSTER. The only way to save market is nerfing bar drop ratio at least twice.
That's the point? They're deliberately making changes to have the prices on these items drop. They don't need to "save the market" because the changes that you fear will ruin things are what they actually want to happen.
This is the best news yet since everything went to pot.
The best news for those who do not want to do anything And one day you will say "Boooriiing!"
Players will still plateau at ~2.5-3k ilvl. It's pretty obvious that they're trying to boost the number of players in end game content because that's where all their new content is.
I do think these changes are great - well worth it.
One point though, which a couple of others have made. KEEP the fashion items and dyes and wards in the Zen store. This gives players a second route to obtain them. Don't restrict options - open them
Also, get armour transmutes into the Zen store - fashion of another sort
Yeah, spend money items, spend money for keys, while players wait, and wait, wait some more for reguler in game items and ad sinks to come down. Plus pay for all the buggie stuff while we wait, and wait more time to have them fixed. With more buggie things to come. No thanks for makeing D&D game a job instead of something fun.
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I got a trade bar jackpot out of my free key today. 101 trade bars total from it. Very happy, given the changes that are coming, plus the fact that I had to buy a coal ward the other day cause I didn't want to wait to upgrade my artifact to legendary.
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Yeah, spend money items, spend money for keys, while players wait, and wait, wait some more for reguler in game items and ad sinks to come down. Plus pay for all the buggie stuff while we wait, and wait more time to have them fixed. With more buggie things to come. No thanks for makeing D&D game a job instead of something fun.
The most expensive sinks in the game are enchants and these changes will probably at least halve the price on enchants, weapon enchant and armor enchants.
Just a question, if Coal/pres wards are removed from the zen market, and will only be available via tradebars, will all wards in game be account bound? If so, I would wish to see them in BOTH places, instead of only one.
This is not to say that I don't approve of the price reduction, I'm just for more flexibility than less.
Added suggestion: Would be nice to see mount/companion upgrade tokens (legendary included) in the tradebar store as well. I suppose it's human nature to always want more. XD
This is another step in the right direction and will help the average player to afford stuff ingame Leadership was for the millionaires ingame with 4 maxed toons Even if ppl will open more accounts to get lockboxes and bars , they can't trade coalescent wards only build weapon enchants and buy some BoE stuff, prices won't be sky high Benefit for every one and the only way to get ppl back in game, so many stopped playing and lots of them never will turn back i am sure
lol @ the price of those mounts, no one wants to pay 2400 tarm bars it takes for ever opening all those lock boxes to get that many tarm bars come on, it needs to be like 1500 for a epic mount not 2400 wtf that's over kill @ 2400 tarm bars, all this will succeed to do is drive the price of the older mounts back up, come on we need a break some where and that's where I want my cut for being a VIP, like tons of others out there we open tons of lock boxes and lots just get slim pickings, so why make them save that long for a mount, seems excessive don't it?
adding them to the trade bar store with neither increase demand or lower supply. I don't see how it would drive the prices higher than they are. If anything it increases the supply which will lower prices...
I must say, this is the happiest I have been with you guys since I started this game. This combined with the new Mod makes me so extremely pleased you have no idea. The past few Mod's and "changes" have been almost a detriment, but this seems like finally taking several steps forward. Thank you all for this, and I can't wait to see what other Improvements you make in our favor!
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Do not listen to these party poopers, do not drop the trade bar drop rate, please.
How can it get lower than 1....?
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Sinister weapon transmutes from 1000 bars down to..... 5??
Yay for easily being able to gear my characters with perhaps the coolest transmutes around. Boo for the fact that so will everyone else. They're going to lose all sense of uniqueness.
Right on, now this is what I'm talking about Strum! Now I have a reason to open lock boxes, you guys should have implemented this 2 years ago. I don't kudos too much to the dev team, but tell them a lot of people approves!
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You don't transmute for uniqueness, you transmute for what you like appearance-wise. If a goat-skin was the rarest, would you want it? geesh....
Many transmute for both. Right now, Sinister weapons have *some* semblance of prestige simply because you *can't* get them in a day's worth of playing. It would be like if the ardent coin 360 coin reward were suddenly offered for 20. You'd get alot of people up in arms for feeling that their time had been wasted.
All told, I do agree that the majority of these changes are fantastic. I'm just a little leery about the transmute changes. 100 bars would have been a bit more reasonable, and make people actually work for it (although not nearly as hard as before)
Freak'n awesome news Cryptic!!! I have a bunch of Transcendent enchants already and applaud this move as now new players have a chance to even the pvp playing field a little bit more. This game is not an AH investment vehicle to me LOL, it's recreation that I feel fine spending $ on sometimes.
These changes should draw-in and keep new players and could result in VIP purchases will help fund the game. A long time coming. Love the new ideas Devs!
Gold sellers will be QQ'ing a little bit more lol.
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There are some positive steps here, but costing across the board still needs some toning down. I will take whatever we get though and it adds more value into vip, which is always good.
However, one thing Ive been critical of and am very happy to see implemented, so hopefully it will be used even more in the future is the shared currency. I would like this with AD, zen and trade bars in fact. Many other mmos Ive played made a shared currency tab and it makes life so much easier for the player.
As other have pointed out, start producing the game for the player.. not the character and more people will be happy. More account wide systems in place!
As other have pointed out, start producing the game for the player.. not the character and more people will be happy. More account wide systems in place!
I completely agree! In addition to making the player happy, it will also make it extremely obvious who is transferring massive amounts of AD. Another way to flag the bad guys, without accidentally snaring an innocent.
I hope that they also change the companions upgrade AD sink or add companion tokens to the vault so that we can slowly upgrade the already bound companions. After reducing the prices of the marks of potency in the Wondrous B. I was expecting some other changes on it before the tradebar changes.
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One point though, which a couple of others have made. KEEP the fashion items and dyes and wards in the Zen store. This gives players a second route to obtain them. Don't restrict options - open them
Also, get armour transmutes into the Zen store - fashion of another sort
Missed that they put rank 7s in the store for 6 tradebars. That makes rank 8s 25k+12 tradebars O_o
Will probably make the price on mops drop pretty hard too.
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This is not to say that I don't approve of the price reduction, I'm just for more flexibility than less.
Added suggestion: Would be nice to see mount/companion upgrade tokens (legendary included) in the tradebar store as well. I suppose it's human nature to always want more. XD
Leadership was for the millionaires ingame with 4 maxed toons
Even if ppl will open more accounts to get lockboxes and bars , they can't trade coalescent wards only build weapon enchants and buy some BoE stuff, prices won't be sky high
Benefit for every one and the only way to get ppl back in game, so many stopped playing and lots of them never will turn back i am sure
I've been getting 5-10 every day.
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Yay for easily being able to gear my characters with perhaps the coolest transmutes around.
Boo for the fact that so will everyone else. They're going to lose all sense of uniqueness.
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All told, I do agree that the majority of these changes are fantastic. I'm just a little leery about the transmute changes.
100 bars would have been a bit more reasonable, and make people actually work for it (although not nearly as hard as before)
These changes should draw-in and keep new players and could result in VIP purchases will help fund the game. A long time coming. Love the new ideas Devs!
Gold sellers will be QQ'ing a little bit more lol.
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However, one thing Ive been critical of and am very happy to see implemented, so hopefully it will be used even more in the future is the shared currency. I would like this with AD, zen and trade bars in fact. Many other mmos Ive played made a shared currency tab and it makes life so much easier for the player.
As other have pointed out, start producing the game for the player.. not the character and more people will be happy. More account wide systems in place!
After reducing the prices of the marks of potency in the Wondrous B. I was expecting some other changes on it before the tradebar changes.