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Shall Elemental burning sets have sets bonus too as Lionsmane sets do??

clonkyo1clonkyo1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,553 Arc User
edited October 2015 in PvP Discussion
I think is a so straight forward question, so... What do you think?

The reasons behind it are, basically, 2:

- The fact that lionsmane has set bonus which grants a huge advantage vs Burning sets (that +500 to Tenacity.... wow)
- Those bonusses are only for "big guilds" players while ignoring "solo" players like me.

My suggestion about it is that both Burning sets shall grant +1500 HP and +380 to Tenacity. What do you think?? discuss!!

Shall Elemental burning sets have sets bonus too as Lionsmane sets do?? 40 votes

Yes, like Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall grant 2 and 4 part set bonnusses
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No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
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  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    I've heard new sets on par with lionsmane/dragonflight will come in module 8 for players whose guilds are not big enough to reasonably reach these goals.
    So i'd say just wait for those sets.

    If those sets are not introduced, then yes, the "regular" burning sets should get the bonuses too.
    I've been a solo player most of the time and while i now enjoy being in a guild, i perfectly understand how solo players or players who joined a small guild with friends, might feel.

    To be honest it was a bad move to basically make biS gear available only to big guilds. What for? To further frustrate a part of the playerbase?

    These devs...

    My only guess is that they wanted to reduce the number of guilds, thinking that the SH requirements would basically "force" guilds to merge into bigger guilds.
    But again...is it really something you should force players to do? I don't think so...
  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    Men getting that armors is no big deal. And why u will make changes in obsolete items ?
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  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    clonkyo1 said:

    cesuke said:

    Men getting that armors is no big deal. And why u will make changes in obsolete items ?

    First: "man" and "those". You should learn some english before posting here because, some times, is really hard to get your posts at all. If you want, use google translator or even speak in spanish and we will try to translate it by ourselves.

    Second: As i stated and Pando clearly explined, its due not all players are on "big size guilds", or being on a guild at all, to get them OR, worse yet, that "BiS" gear is only open to those on "big size guilds" while ignoring "mid, low or guildless players".

    Third: On PvP, 500 Tenacity + 2000 HP makes a big difference vs "Elemental burning" set users.

    Also, you should be the most worried player here, because S.E. only hits hard vs players without Tenacity, right?

    Pot, meet Kettle.

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  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    clonkyo1 said:

    urabask said:

    Pot, meet Kettle.

    Never had a problem while trying to explain myself... unless i were talking to trolls...
    I could point out twenty errors in your post. To a native English speaker your writing habits are just as problematic as his.
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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    @clonkyo1 after this post wont even take u seriously, this is not about grammar... Men cause i am not talking to "u" i am talking in plural and thanks for those :smile: i learn something.

    Well after this post i know u even have the Lionsmane Armor so u are a less than the average guy in PvP.
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  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    Stamina/ AP drains are enough to basically allow players who have a toon in a good guild to HAMSTER hard solo players or players who are in small guilds/ guilds created with few friends.

    Don't remember if SH boons are always active in all PvP modes. Cause we would be talking about 35k HP-8K stats and other stuff, plus PvP boons affecting overloads which is...lol. Just lol.
  • zeusomzeusom Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 810 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    New gear should be better in some ways than old gear. Gear should progress.
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  • xgrandz02xgrandz02 Member Posts: 702 Arc User
    [NO]
    What's the Point of this "Poll" you won't to farm the new gear , just because your too lazy for that. löl
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  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Yes, like Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall grant 2 and 4 part set bonnusses
    Voted for yes. Mainly due to the OP's statement, small guild members have no choice to farm the new ones, so we get into more disadvantages and we already have lots of that compared to PVP only guilds.

    In my guild i am the only 1 left, who PVPs. Nobody does it, most fellow guildies don't want to get massacred in an utterly unfair and exploited fight. (Check my thread about PVP's future and see the "fine" screenshots i make day by day about exploiters, have lots of them in the pocket.)

    Some of them are on stand by, have farmed their Burning gear and are just waiting for Cryptic Devs to do something in that huge pile of mess. The biggest problem for decent people is the fact, that PVP is like a kindergarten without a person watching over the many kids trolling around.

    The pitiful AD we earn doesn't help either, not a huge magnet for discouraged people.

    I personally thank the OP opening this thread, but sadly i fear the PVP guilds will bombard this fine request too, cause they don't want anybody getting closer and be more competitive, not a single step.
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    Yes, like Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall grant 2 and 4 part set bonnusses
    I believe that all Epic gear needs to have a set bonus.​​
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  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    Apparently it's too difficult for some players to understand that it's not personal effort that separates players from the new gear and boons and enchants. It's the guild's effort. If you have a guild with 10 RL friends you can play 20 hours a day, good luck getting the stuff you need or, for example, kill 3 dragons for the dragonflight, or upgrading your guild hall to get the new gear.

    The issue is not new gear with better stats and bonuses. It's the fact that said gear, enchants and boons are gated behind a wall that you can jump only if you are in a big, active guild. Period.

    Which means you basically are forced to join a big guild, or merge, or just you won't get the gear, the enchants, the boons.

    For example, influence is capped at 400 a day. How in the world do you think a small guild would ever hope to upgrade SH in a reasonable time?
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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    I will only say: that will happens in your dreams. Keep ranting and complaining :)

    Btw i got all the banners in less than 2 days in solo queue. And i am noob :)
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    cesuke said:

    I will only say: that will happens in your dreams. Keep ranting and complaining :)



    Btw i got all the banners in less than 2 days in solo queue. And i am noob :)

    Too bad that without a guild with marketplace at a high enough rank you can have 10k banners but no armor available in marketplace. And the only way to get these is joining a big enough, active guild.
    You are a slow one cesuke. Seriously. No offense. It's just that people writes simple statements but you either don't read or struggle to understand the very simple things other players write.
  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    I am in big guild i have all The elemental lions mane... And this is a useless petition of upgrading obsolete gear ... I guess u are BiS ? And have already the armor?

    I guess no... Such 99% rants and complains are made for noobs...
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    cesuke said:

    I am in big guild i have all The elemental lions mane... And this is a useless petition of upgrading obsolete gear ... I guess u are BiS ? And have already the armor?



    I guess no... Such 99% rants and complains are made for noobs...

    Thanks for proving that my previous post is spot on.
    Lol. :facepalm:
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    clonkyo1 said:

    cesuke said:

    I am in big guild i have all The elemental lions mane... And this is a useless petition of upgrading obsolete gear ... I guess u are BiS ? And have already the armor?



    I guess no... Such 99% rants and complains are made for noobs...

    Just for asking, what should do players who do not want to enter into any guild?
    playing with limited content
    what should do a pvp player to gear up?
    what should do a foundry player to gear up?
    and if this was a solo-game, what should a social player do to join a guild?

    the game is this: with guilds + pve + pvp. You want everything? you do everything, otherwise farm what you can farm and do not blame the "complete" players if they have more and better

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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    @clonkyo1 and the others then what u want ... Just create the account and get the character built and all ppl with the "same" power ? Then mmorpg are not for u. You are looking for other games like arcades (Street Fighter/ Mortal Kombat)
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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    @clonkyo1 all ur post are about ur disagreement with the game as it is... And i dont understand anything ... Well ... Sure is logic...
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    i stand my case, bis gear needs somehow to be locked behind something.
    an impossible dungeon, a crazy grind, guilds, ads, crafting
    higher end gear isnt for everyone otherwise wouldnt be higher end.
  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    No, unlike Lionsmane sets, Burning sets shall not grant 2 and 3 part set bonnusses
    Locked ? Nothing is locked here... Most people dont have the skill to get it. So they want it to dissapear or magically appear stats in what they already have.
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