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radubadu
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I'm reading about the "new ways to get AD" which seem to have some people pretty miffed.
How obnoxious is that grind at the level cap? I love the game so far but I have very limited time so if all of that time is spent grinding to do things I'll never have time to do I figure I should just quit now.
Not trying to troll or anything I really just have no concept.
How obnoxious is that grind at the level cap? I love the game so far but I have very limited time so if all of that time is spent grinding to do things I'll never have time to do I figure I should just quit now.
Not trying to troll or anything I really just have no concept.
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As for ADs - as a new player, all you need to know is that leveling up leadership isn't as important as it used to be. Previously, you could generate a lot ADs through the leadership profession. Now, save for 1 or 2 tasks, you only get chests for potions, skill kits, gold, and XP.
What I recommend is to get 1 character to 70 through the elemental evil content, (make sure to take the quests that say "complete 8 vigilance quests").
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Back to topic, the game is enjoyable as you level but the grind is real once the endless dailies start.
I'd advise you to join a good and helpful guild who can give you timely advice and guidance as you progress through the game.
Safe journey and good luck!
Get to 70 - I realize it can be a grind, but end-game is where things really pick up.
Once you're at level 70, and assuming you have been invoking at least a few times a day, you should have some ADs saved up. Use them to buy level 70 blues for your class, and start running some dungeons and skirmishes.
These dungeons and skirmishes will reward you with ADs and some will give you epic equipment. A big point here is to *only* use your free daily key for the dungeons - don't buy more keys just yet.
You can always open at least 1 chest at the end of the skirmishes without needing a key, so these will become your fallback point.
Once you have all the gear you can directly equip, salvage any remaining gear for even more ADs. What you get from salvaging in this way will not go down, like how there's a daily cap for what you can get form the dungeons, (though if you hit the daily refining cap of 24K ADs, you'll have to wait for the next day to begin before you can refine more).
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The game is ok if you are ok with playing a class or max 2. Having multiple chars is not possible anymore if you want to be a bit competotive
That's when mindless repetitive grinding begins. Actually, there are some fun parts - the first dozen or so times. So you grind to 70, and find the campaigns - institutionalized repetitive grind. Also, still fun with your first char, and digestable chunks. Just you need AD to get your progress going. so how do you get AD? Yay. Got the picture - mindless repetitive grinding.
OK, if you could just get along with low intensity at-your-own-pace gaming, and still make some progress, it'd be fine. But in order to get anywhere it's all but unavoidable to join a Guild and help with the guild stronghold's progress. Guess what...
...yes, it's repetitive grinding the selfsame dozen or so fights over and over again, and eats tons of AD. And either you're in a low-profile guild, where progress is glacial, ore you're due to p(l)ay your share of the progress costs... ...or get kicked from the guild, eventually.
Honestly: As a low-gaming-timme-budget player, unless you're OK with playing on your own, and content with being less than competitive, even in late- and end-game PvE, have fun. If you're the ambitious guy who wants to play it all, and with the cool kids, better earmark a high-two- to three-digit monthly sum for P2W stuffz and AD - or never get to where one would want to get within the game's remaining lifetime.
...just my 2 cents.
I guess to ask for further clarification, what exactly is the AD for? Why do you have to grind? If it's for gear/Stat progression, is it any worse than some of the p2p mmos that have you run the same instances over and over for tokens to exchange for gear (i.e. WoW and FFXIV)?
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As for the grind, you can think of it like running dungeons in other MMO's to get tokens; you're basically doing the same thing here as well. You'll be running that content here to get AD, seals to exchange for gear, and so on, as well.
novakk, you're the type of player that needs to just stop playing. You're clearly unhappy and it's quite pathetic that instead of moving to another game or doing anything else you continue to troll the forums of a game you seem to despise. Do everyone a favor and join your alleged 80%.
But none of them can reach 1/10 of current Neverwinter after some AD changes.
Bis in Neverwinter means 4200+ item level, you can stay at 2500 but you will have some problem to get a team for you to run dungeons and get smashed in pvp.
Put strong hold away, a lot of must have stuff are costy.
Campaign
Companions (legendary|pet armor|enchantments)
Artifacts(10 million RP each, you have 4)
Artifact gears(the RP)
Weapon/Armor Enchantments(C ward cost)
Enchantments(c ward cost)
Each of them cost 10 millions AD at least except campaign
And you need to spend 4 hours on same stuff to get 24000 AD, per day.
Which means you need 2100 days to reach some Bis guys currently have. Roughly 5-6 years. No day off
Or you can spend serious cash to get them quick.
For example, blood ruby for artifact gears
620 dollars for 1 of them. However you have four in total.
If you think spend a second hand BMW x5 in a mmo is fine, just do IT
Btw, novakk1 is an old Player in game, we stay in this game now for few reasons:
1. Already purchased VIP
2. Have hope
3. Few friends still around
But tbh, compare to few months ago, current game is a ghost town. And feedback from players no one care.
I personally like have new players joining the game. But you have beed warned.
Do not cry in forum later.
Goldmoon, this is exactly what I was wondering. I have no intention of being a hard-core pvper or end game raider. But from what I've read, the bis gear you're referring to isn't necessary for endgame pve, is that not true?
Again, I'm not wanting "the sky is falling" nor do I want "if you're having fun just play". Knowing I can play a max of probably 10 hours a week. Will I be able to actually play end game content without spending stupid amounts of money or no?
Lets be honest here, you don't really need to be BIS for endgame pve, that is true.
But still need to be Semi-Bis, and its still cost at least half of Bis
Current hardest dungeon in this game is eGwD, epic gray wolf den. Ask in lfg channel to see anyone will carry you (2500 item level) and finish it legit.(no bug, no perm pop).
Cryptic limited the AD sources, which leading to another problem, ppl want to farm AD as quickly as possible.
I myself have a 3k item level toon, easy to get a team, but for my alt, you need to wait really some times.
You should then be able to run all T1 dungeons (ELOL, VT, MC) and skirmishes (KR and ESOT). Obviously, if you're trying to get a group using the LFG channel, you probably won't be invited since they're asking for ridiculous IL requirements in that channel. I'd recommend joining a guild that will help you and/or joining a channel that will help and don't require IL to run dungeons with --such as the Legit channel: http://forum.arcgames.com/neverwinter/discussion/544112/nw-legit-community-channel-info-discussion/p1
But you definitely don't need 4k IL to run any PVE content at end game.
If you don't pvp, the grind is not bad, and you can easily run T1s and eToS without spending a dime -- although you might want to spend some (a fast mount, and some level of VIP).
As others said, get blues from AH at 70, equip artifact MH and OH you get from Elemental Evil campaigning, then start grinding campaigns for boons. Start running T1s and lvl 70 skirmishes once you're around 1800 ilvl. You can enchant everything with rank 6s or 7s from the AH -- it doesn't start getting expensive until rank 8. Try to get a lesser soulforged for an armor enchantment when you have the AD.
Run 2 T1 dungeons and 2 skirmishes a day. You will get gear drops you can wear or salvage, as well as seals to buy gear. With salvaging and invoking it is easy to hit the daily rAD cap of 24k. At ~2.5k ilvl, add in eToS.
It may be hard to get a group at 2k ilvl from /lookingforgroup -- but as mantera47 said, look into joining the NW Legit channel.
You don't need to get your gear to Legendary/Mythic: epic is fine for artifact gear and artifacts, and is quite reachable.
Honestly still leery but it IS free lol.
Thank you everyone for your input!
quote mantera47
It depends on what you actually want to do... At 70, you can buy a set of blue level 115 gear from the AH for less than 10k AD total. Also, get at least rank 5 - 7 enchants (which are pretty cheap in the AH as well). This should get your iLevel up to approx. 1800 - 2000.
blabla legit channel blabla
But you definitely don't need 4k IL to run any PVE content at end game.
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You CANNOT reach 1800 item level just from blue gears. Your item level based on sigil artifacts which new players dont have.
I honest dont think they have the AD to buy rank 7 enchantments either.
Since the only AD source from lvl 1 - 70 is invocation.
Like I said, you need at least 3k item level to finish eGwD, which IS endgame pve content.
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quote arcofortep12">BiS is not necessary. You will get carried eventually at some point. I completed everything except GWD and Stronghold Siege (because it's boring for me) with 2.2k IL. Aim at least for a 2.5k IL. Focus on one character and take all the boons you can from campaigns.
If I have raised six 2.2k toons in 9 months (I play a lot) you can raise at least one at 2.5k or 3k in the same timeframe.
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Ofc lure boss out the door is also doable at 2k item level, you can even naked since you can lure them to campfire
Or team with a perm OP
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quote darkstarcrash">2.5k ilvl is perfectly adequate for all T1s, lvl 70 skirmishes, and epic Temple of Spiders. I know, because my characters are between 2.5 - 2.7k ilvl, and they run those with ease -- and not being carried.
Run 2 T1 dungeons and 2 skirmishes a day. You will get gear drops you can wear or salvage, as well as seals to buy gear. With salvaging and invoking it is easy to hit the daily rAD cap of 24k. At ~2.5k ilvl, add in eToS.
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I complete agree with 2.5 item level
BUT T1 dungeons DO NOT DROP SALVAGEABLE GEARS, and new player need to pay to get another key.
You guys really dont give a s about new players
anyway, the game pretty much hand holds you through to level 60. you get everything you need from just following the main story line and taking the reward chests. you will do ok in pvp against similarly equipped people. and low-level pvp can be fun even if senior players have a few special items, because they don't have all their skills yet and so they are still limited in power. but that will change quickly as you get to closer to level 60. eventually pvp will become grossly lop-sided and just not fun at all. even for getting the AD, i'd rather not do it. again, if it's similarly equipped people it can be alright. i did a level 69 domination and on my rogue and it was actually an ok lineup but i don't pvp a whole lot because of the aforementioned.
sooo, after level 60 it kinda gets hard. i think the developers made the new content with the senior players in mind, having spent so many hours or dollars or both getting really good gear. so for them, 60-70 was probably easy or mildly difficult. for us, it is a huge noticeable difference. the quests don't follow little mini story lines as much as they just ask you to be "vigilant" aka grindy. you grind repeatables. that's where it becomes like a lot of other mmo's. "get me 100 flower petals from monster flowers" and now do it again, and again, and i need more, more petals, MORE PETALS!!! until you are very sick of killing monster flowers for petals, lol ^^
anyway, if you're finding it difficult here's what you do. i later started a hunter ranger who i like better than my original trickster rogue, just do a lot of skirmishes, low-level pvp, standard dungeons, and save the quest lines. the XP at low levels is quite good leveling. you can always go back and do a quest line. my hunter ranger got to level 70 faster than my rogue who finished all of elemental evil by level 67 and had to grind those last few levels (horrible, just horrible, i never want to do that again).
now, campaigns can be very confusing, but you need special campaign currencies. the only campaign you can do before 70 is the dragon one. do it as well, as soon as you can at level 26 because it is extra quests with XP. good for leveling. all the rewards will be outdated once you get them. they only allow you to do them at a set pace and you must wait. but who cares about the item rewards for now, you have everything you really need for pve through the normal quests. the best things are the dragon enchants, so just drop them in your gear and don't worry about any other enchants until you are higher levle and more "specialized" build. then you will have to use whatever enchants are good for your combo/build.
save your AD, or spend mildy on auction house stuff. most items can be had for 25-200 AD per item for low-level blue stuff through to level 70. you need to save your AD because just like the game jumps in difficulty, the prices will too. i bought 2 enchants for weapon and armor, about 100k each. yes, that's right. you heard me. 100k each. and they are just the regular ones, a step up from lesser and very far from the top transcendent, but that's how much. and yes, i spent real money to buy AD to get them. so buy lessers which aren't too much cheaper if you don't want to "donate" so much to senior level player prices. it's just a fact, senior level players have more AD and so are willing to pay more. sucks for the new guy, but just do your best.
(incidentally, the game does give you some shards to make a lesser weapon enchant with 1% chance to upgrade, my lightning attempt failed on my hunter ranger, but when i did it last night on my trickster rogue, accidentally choosing fire, it actually worked! so now i have a free lesser fire enchant, thanks neverwinter!)
once you're at level 70, it's still going to be hard with quest gear, so upgrade as much as you can through the AH and start doing the campaigns, which are also hard. i'm someone who DOES NOT LIKE TO BE CARRIED, can you tell how much i don't like it?
you will notice that things in the game are not re-aligned for the 1-70 levels. and still a lot of text and content has not been changed from the previous max level of 60. just bear with it. the developers still have a lot of work to do with realigning the content for 1-70.
the saving grace is that there are so many areas and the art is really fantastic. if you like forgotten realms, this is a great free game that allows you to experience that world. i do wish there would be even more story in it from the forgotten realms and the chars of that universe, but that's just me.
i do have a lot of other hints and suggestions for new players because there is so much complicated content, but you can also find some of those things online or discovering them for yourself as you play along.
i can also suggest spending a little real money to get a mount and companion that you really like because it makes adventuring more fun, unless the in-game ones are fine with you which they are not bad at all. i still don't have a great mount yet, but i'm waiting for a mount sale or a holiday/winter sale which i'm not sure if they do that. but hopefully they will.
anyway, that's it. quite the wall of text no?
Dark Enchantment, Rank 7 - 15k AD
Dark Enchantment, Rank 6 - 3k AD
Dark Enchantment, Rank 5 - 113 AD
Radiant Enchantment, Rank 7 - 18.4 k AD
Radiant Enchantment, Rank 6 - 3.5k
Radiant Enchantment, Rank 5 - 116 AD
etc.
Rank 5's drop quite a lot just while adventuring.
Weapon and Armor enchants are the expensive ones. You can make a terror or feytouched just by doing the sharandar lairs IF you can get lucky and get a Coalescent ward to drop from the invoke boxes -- big IF but still possible. The same with an armor enchantment IF you can get lucky with a Coalescent ward. Obviously, you can buy coal wards from the zen store but that's up to you. The Lessers in the AH cost less than buying coal wards from the zen store, though. So you might want to just buy the lessers directly if you are going the buying route.
for more rare enchants, yes, you will probably want to be more careful, but all the solid colored ones, just don't waste stuff on them for now. also, don't bother refining the them until after you get rank 5 drops. just feed your free artifact you get at level 21. the book is useful for a store that's always available whenever your inventory gets too full. but the heal and the lantern is also good.
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