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Lostmauth Set Bonus - WAI?
felixkelll
Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 26 Arc User
With all the discussion about the CW SS nerf/adjustment/what have you, I thought it only fair to ask about the Lair of Lostmauth set bonus and it's current state.
It's now been multiple months since the manner in which it procc'd suddenly made it BiS for any number of damage-dealing classes, and two weeks since the patch which adjusted the class feature CW had which essentially functioned the same way.
So if there is an 'official' answer I've missed, I'd love to see it, if we can get one, that'd be amazing, otherwise more than happy to listen to discussion of how Lostmauth is a "Secondary-striker-tertiary-controller-primary-nitwit" and/or when or how this set might be changed.
It's now been multiple months since the manner in which it procc'd suddenly made it BiS for any number of damage-dealing classes, and two weeks since the patch which adjusted the class feature CW had which essentially functioned the same way.
So if there is an 'official' answer I've missed, I'd love to see it, if we can get one, that'd be amazing, otherwise more than happy to listen to discussion of how Lostmauth is a "Secondary-striker-tertiary-controller-primary-nitwit" and/or when or how this set might be changed.
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yeah that doesnt mean it should be so op. its not even made for cw's yet its bis for this class. btw im a cw and refuse to use the lol set. i just cant stand it.
Of course, whether you see it as an actual problem depends a fair bit on whether you own the set or not, hehe.
I got it now and will upgrade it tomorrow. If you need +2 Dex, +2 Strength and AP gain. The overall power, crit and arp combination isn't bad either and it wasn't that expensive to my suprise (i expected a higher price).
Problem is, CW doesnt need dex and str, yet it's still the BIS set for us.
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For the purposes of pve groups no one cares about tank damage. Its nice but its not their necessary function. For the purposes of pvp that would depend on your crit. There are other major pvp damage issues so while its still mandatory its not the sore thumb sticking out like it is in pve.
For what its worthI didn't really mind when deep gash was doing a lot of damage. I thought it should have been a tier 3 or 4 destroyer feat and left the way it was so you couldn't have sents being unkillable and doing most of the destroyer damage in pvp. And I was certainly against the nerfs that went into mod 3.
Well maybe it wasnt you, but many others vote for nerf.:) I think nerfing SS was right decision but... they should bring back shard, old singu and some other stuff. Now each time pvping I get tons of ice knifes, desintegrations, repels on my head (thanks to spell twisting+ap gain). In PvP geared CW is on top atm, a bit cheesy. PvE... is different. More CC focus, less DPS (but still not bad, met some mage who was close to mine as MoF).
We are getting aggrivated... yes we are...
I wouldn't hold much hope for singularity. There are fewer mobs in t2 dungeons so the number cap isn't the problem with it. They have control resist so they don't get grouped easily and they can attack in singularity. In mod 6 when they can 1 shot that's more the kind of thing you want to cut down rather than increasing aoe dps for the group. Even if it did group mobs properly I still wouldn't use it just because of that.
As for the pvp people complain about cws but trs and ops are obviously better and an equal geared hr or gf should always kill the cw in a 1v1. That said there are far more glaring issues in pvp that mostly have to do with negation enchantment and piercing damage. Everything else is small potatoes in comparison.
DPS wise nothing even comes close to a SM destroyer even before the ss nerf or even taking sw puppets doing millions of damage into account.
About PvP: TRs always were on top (even with low damage they contested nodes and could kill! immortal senti in mod2), HRs are broken a bit, GFs rely on WoE,lol+nega.
150% HP makes room for MoFs and im happy with that. Always want unleash fire.
As we all know, many builds are going considerably beyond 25%. and Imperial isn't dealing weapon damage on every hit.
However, don't change it now, I'm planning to use 2xRP to switch from imperial to lostmauth.
So wrong about DS and SMs. DS is by far one of the best encounters in the GWF by several reasons. The fact that it can proc lol's set is just an extra benefit.
Stopped reading after 1st line. All CW denying they are broken (same as other top classes). Thanks to wheel, lol, nega and your mix of range/spell twisting cd reduction/fast cast animation. Yes, you are still worst class in pvp... Haha, nope.
Blah CA, mark... Good GF will mark adds, rene CW bring nightmare wizardry etc. Will see after nerf...
It seems to be the way the new forums work - anytime someone responds to this thread (which was moved from General Discussion and then flagged with a Question tag) it flags the response with a little "Did this response answer your question" tag for me as the OP to answer and defaults to "yes". So until I go through and click each response with a "no", the thread shows as being Answered. I don't know if this is what is supposed to happen but it is rather unfortunate.
To be clear however, no, there has been no official answer of whether or not the set is WAI, just discussion about the set and which class is currently the most OP/whiney/whatever.
What?
It's not just about CA. When you apply mark you have 20% extra dmg for yourself and 8% extra for the whole group. If you are an IV, you can apply double mark to your enemies with Threatening Rush. If there's a GF, more marks can be applied = even more damage.
Also, for your information, it's not just for the "offensive" portion of DS, you also get 25% damage reduction for 10s when you use DS in an elite mob and it can stack up to 80% DR which is the lowest amount of damage than an enemy can deal to you. The amount of DR depends on how powerful is the enemy (minions, elite, boss, etc).
For a GWF, using DS instead of another offensive encounter means much more overall damage. So lol's set nerfed or not, DS is still an irreplaceable encounter for us.
You are derailing the chat. We are talking about the impact of the nerf to the lostmauth's set for Swordmasters who are using DS. You stated that they will lose a lot of their damage and they could also stop using DS because of that. I said that is wrong due to the facts that I wrote. If you personally like to use DS or not, that's completely irrelevant to the discussion.