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  • twilightwatchmantwilightwatchman Member Posts: 2,007 Arc User
    Anyone else notice that the mount bonus effects are pretty much the killer ones in PvP ???
    No surprise as PvP players are more likely to spend big to get a competitive edge.
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  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    Anyone else notice that the mount bonus effects are pretty much the killer ones in PvP ???

    Maybe they target pvp community because they spend most $?
  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    It'd be nice to see them embrace the "active bonus" scheme with mounts. Give all mounts an activate bonus, and make it scale from green to gold.

    The big problem I see now is it's basically creating a hyper-elite item slot than only the very richest of the rich have access to, and I'm not a fan of that.

    If the slug had options for green/blue/purple/gold at 10%/20%/30%/35%, for example, I think it would be better tuned. That assumes, too, that all the other mounts in the game are given bonuses.
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  • helpimblindinrlhelpimblindinrl Member Posts: 972 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Ye lets add massive stats here there and everywhere. Its like we learned nothing about powercreep through launch and mod 6
  • j0shi82j0shi82 Member Posts: 622 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The only good thing I see coming out of this is an inventory for mounts. They always stated that they don't do it, because there's no need to have more than one mount. Well, not any longer.

    Also all mounts should be converted to BtA, it's hard enough to maintain an ALT already. The best thing would be some sort of separate account stable where you manage mounts similar to your account bank. With the cost of these legendary mounts in mind, I'd even go as far as making any mount an account unlock once it binds, so any character can claim the mount from the stable like in the ZEN store.
  • kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    j0shi82 wrote: »
    With the cost of these legendary mounts in mind, I'd even go as far as making any mount an account unlock once it binds, so any character can claim the mount from the stable like in the ZEN store.

    With the cost of these mounts in mind, Cryptic - in order to meet the quotas required by their overlords at PWE - will never do this. The PvP players will pay big money for this, and they'll pay big money over and over, even if a lot of that big money will end up going to 3rd party cheater sites since at 500 AD per zen, its a lot cheaper to cheat and contribute to degradation of the game than it is to pay up legit. I wonder if forcing the limit down so that the AD price of Zen equals out to the price goldsellers are offering would provide an incentive for people to by Zen instead? I mean, why cheat when doing something legit costs the same (if not less)? hm....... There would be implications, of course, but I wonder which would be the worse evil, economically speaking?
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  • kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    I have a good idea why they're failing to understand, but I won't go there. You're right about the raising the zen cap, it would be a disaster and lowering the cap would certainly put a hurt on Zen sales since few people would buy it strictly for the sake of converting it to AD. Perhaps a permanent reduction in Zen price? It would hit them across the board so PWE wouldn't go for it (even if it would likely stimulate more Zen purchases in all games). There's a point where the increased sales from lower prices isn't profitable... I have a hunch PWE isn't anywhere near that point though, but risk aversion will prevent them from changing.
  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    balorin wrote: »
    I m not surpised about this mount for these following reasons.

    -It will match well with the two missing elemental lockboxes, here the water one.
    -The bonus is OP to sell Lockboxes.
    -The mount is ugly and don't bring any epic or legendary enjoyement. ( i was wondering what they could design worst than the last chocobo chicken, well a snail ! ok ^^)

    I will recommend you to wait for the air lockboxes, may be we ll have a very beautifull mount this time, but this is just a dream ^^ (flying carpet, griiffins, fake magical wings like the air prophet etc etc)

    ...weeeellllll,...

    ...by your reasoning the fire-element plucked ostrich was a wrong design. It should've been a 2 inch diameter, 6 inch length fireworks-style rocket...

    ...also, would've suited the P2W theme better.
  • balthezar2balthezar2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 151 Arc User
    Come on people..not real..in the "Use:" you forgot to change the strider to snail, so if you are going to post doctored screenshots, don't forget anything.
  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    balthezar2 wrote: »
    Come on people..not real..in the "Use:" you forgot to change the strider to snail, so if you are going to post doctored screenshots, don't forget anything.

    That happens on tooltips quite often that are still not ready for release or only visible on the preview servers , for a while the Drake mounts had the emperor beetle tooltips at the top before they got released. You might be correct about them not being real however ,if this picture was taken from the alpha test I would have thought it would have been deleted quick time and not left on the forum for days.
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  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    I hope they come up with a Mount Upgrade pack....

    I am really attached to my Blueberry
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  • j0shi82j0shi82 Member Posts: 622 Arc User
    iambecks1 wrote: »
    magenubbie wrote: »
    No mod groups=no unexpected deletion ;)

    Wow they still have no mod powers? , who the fk is setting the forum up? my dad ? lmfao

    The big takeaway is that this forum works very well without the harsh moderation. It's even better because they don't have to deal with threads that complain about deletion....

    Anyway, for those interested here's my blogopinion about the new mount: http://blog.nwo-uncensored.com/coastal-fail-snail-another-sign-of-a-bigger-change/

    Enjoy!

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  • jackonyourbackjackonyourback Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14 Arc User
    You forgot to replace the first sentence after "Use:". Shouldn't it say mount your snail?
  • MisfitsMisfits Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    but it DOES make sense if it will come from a lockbox, especially if it's from elemental water lockbox since we already have earth and flame.

    If it does come from water, wonder how overpowered the air one would be
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    teribad15 wrote: »
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1190886/mounts-with-stats-this-is-getting-out-of-hand

    please discuss about new mount here
    the picture is taken from strongholds alpha test.

    I see I see. Since that thing is in alpha. I'm not going to worry myself too much about it.
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    So, after daily use, in the course of five seconds he is "refunded" 41.6% AP (35 + 6.64) with a Legendary rank neck artifact equipment -- which means after 43 seconds, he is back to 100% AP. If we count in active combat and AP gains from it that could easily shave off around 25 seconds from the total time required...

    WHICH MEANS WITH THAT THING, EVERYONE COULD BE SPAMMING DAILIES IN LESS THAN 20 SECONDS, EASILY FASTER THAN EVEN SOME ENCOUNTER POWER RECHARGE

    ...

    That does it devs. This is madness. Schedule yourselves for AP gain rate nerf for PvP next module.

    EVEN FOR PVE THIS IS COMPLETELY BROKEN.
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  • UndefinedUndefined Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    It's obvious there is a nerf coming to AP gain. This mount will just give us back what we are about to lose. This is Cryptic's way. They sell you more power/abilities to make you uber, then nerf them. They then sell it all back to you again to make you uber, then nerf them.

    Rinse and repeat
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  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
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    They sell you more power/abilities to make you uber, then nerf them. They then sell it all back to you again to make you uber, then nerf them.

    I would buy an upgrade kit for my current mount

    I really don't want a new one
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    urlord283 wrote: »
    I would buy an upgrade kit for my current mount

    I really don't want a new one

    ...except the way they are slapping on inexcusably game-breaking options on stuff, the odds are if you refuse to use it you'll be treated as self-gimping in both PvP and PvE, lose competency, and will soon be forced to do the same or cope with a game that's just not fun anymore because you keep losing.

    The moment they added the "4% freebie AP every 3 seconds" and 2-min SigDiv useable from the start of matches, they opened the door to this. Probably meaningless now but I frickin; warned you people, all of you. But how many did actually listen? Oho.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    Very few players will have this mount. I wouldnt worry too much about it.
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  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Misfits wrote: »
    but it DOES make sense if it will come from a lockbox, especially if it's from elemental water lockbox since we already have earth and flame.

    If it does come from water, wonder how overpowered the air one would be

    Maybe...

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    /sarcasm

    I suppose they'll be hurled across half the map.
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