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linoge63
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Those of us that have enjoyed NW and have endured the subpar and sub-professional design leadership actions and inactions continue to communicate our wrath in these forums. It serves as a medium to vent but it also gives those within NW admin valuable feedback not only free but paid.
But I think it is imprtant to recognize the announcement that the lead designer has been changed to someone with a strong reputation to not only protect, but to grow and evolve. He probably very unlike his predecessors has quite a bit to lose if things continue as it was or worse.
The point I am making is that i feel its ok to wrath on regarding our countless frustations about what has and has not been done but to refrain in projecting a negative expectation onto the new designer and his team.
Lets not allow the designers of the past dictate our vision forward and lets allow this new designer the space to reveal his abilities uncluttered from negative expectations based on others.
But I think it is imprtant to recognize the announcement that the lead designer has been changed to someone with a strong reputation to not only protect, but to grow and evolve. He probably very unlike his predecessors has quite a bit to lose if things continue as it was or worse.
The point I am making is that i feel its ok to wrath on regarding our countless frustations about what has and has not been done but to refrain in projecting a negative expectation onto the new designer and his team.
Lets not allow the designers of the past dictate our vision forward and lets allow this new designer the space to reveal his abilities uncluttered from negative expectations based on others.
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While I complain, as many other players, I mostly feel sorry for the Devs.
Actually if you put it like that it really doesn't bode well (or perhaps not even as well as before)....
I did think the initial PR announcement was promising, but judging from the actions since it is hard not to be very disappointed....
Legacy of Romulus is, always has been, and always will be the best epic plus for STO. Delta Rising did the exact opposite: killed it. (Based on new tier Starships and requirement to pay to upgrade existing *Zen Market* purchases = epic fail). it's one thing for our hard-earned in-game gear to go defunct, but when they make your real $ Zen market purchases defunct? Oh, hell no.
Lets just say past achievements are not cumulative; you are only as great as your most recent effort. So if Legacy of Romulus was an epic win, I hope he didn't have anything to do with Delta Rising which is epic fail.
Probably just best that none of us hold our breaths until we see and actually experience whatever fixes/changes/new-shinies they have in store. My patience is great, but as the old saying goes: Beware the fury of a patient man. My patience is already becoming stretched a bit thin as it is: in City of Heroes, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, and now Neverwinter. spent money in all of them, supported the studio. Now I there is left for me is Neverwinter, I spend zero money or play in any of those previous. Zip, zilch, nada - and not because I'm bored with them, but every time it was because of policy changes that I felt were simply unacceptable.
They're nudging dangerously closer and closer toward the sheer cliff edge.
Mod 6 is just beyond salvation.. no amount of changes can trasform HAMSTER into gold
I felt a great disturbance in the Forum, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened. :eek:
The force is strong in this one.
...add in "communication".
Last message in Dve tracker right now is three days old and on the of course game-breaking topic of belt visuals... ...AND it doesn't even state something like factual. "I believe". Well, time to go to church, I suppose... ...maybe praying can help.
you know, I'm all for "have patience", "giving time", "better good than another bunch of bugs" - but so far I see all but NOTHING.
...getting lured?
"Mr. Shicoff, to my office, please. And stat."
"Hello, thanks you could come so fast, Mr. Shicoff. Well, good news for you: Effective now, you are Head of Design of the NW dev group. Congratulations to your new responsibilities! Make it good..." (unspoken:"...or else...")
Just to put this in perspective, the last 4 days in American have been a Saturday, Sunday, National Holiday, everyone back to work on Tuesday...typically the devs will actually work on stuff then tend to be more active towards the end of the week as questions come out about new patch notes or other announcements.
...point taken. Still, apart from patch (delay) notes and Xbox news - the last message of substance and concerning the current state of the game, not some projected niceties in the more or less distant future, is 5 days old (May 22nd). Before that one: On 20th Panderus took the communcation policy serious. A Wednesday. Nothing on Thursday and Friday apart from patch and contest info. So a week of non-delivery on promises...
Oh, here in most of Europe it's been a Holiday weekend, too, though in a more verbal and christian sense: Pentecost.
For instance, this is what management thinks needs to be done:
While in reality, this is what the devs need to do:
The mistakes made in Star Trek Online were that the game has become more like a generic space mmo than Star Trek. Star Trek Online would be more fun if all the new Delta Rising powers (such as specialization skills, etc) were simply removed. Delta Rising added new powers which had little relationship to star trek and many people, including myself, do not even enjoy using most new powers. Many missions have timers and secondary objectives. If secondary objectives fail, then you are kicked out of the mission.
Some secondary objectives can easily fail if someone does not know the mission or intentionally sabotages the mission.
What can Neverwinter developers learn from Star Trek Online?
Always remember ....
Neverwinter is a D&D game first.
Do not put things into the game which are not related to D&D.
There are plenty of non-D&D and non-Star Trek mmo's. Please focus Neverwinter to be a D&D game.
Module 6 did something right
There are not too many new powers in module 6.
no more need/green/pass is a very welcome change
Finally, even though this may seem strange to people who never played star trek online,
there are no timers in Neverwinter dungeons. server does not automatically kick everyone due to failed secondary objective.
from what i understand problem is in management not development
At the very least his two messages to the community over the few months he has been on are more then the previous Lead Dev did in a year... (At least from what I remember off the top of my head!) :cool:
Progress is being made, and a much steadier pace than before.
Again, what do you expect in two weeks?
The plan was plainly laid out to the players in a blog post two weeks ago. And we saw that the patch planned for last week took some big steps towards addressing those concerns. Unfortunately, it got pulled at the last minute because something went wrong. Which is actually another good sign. The lead here is NOT going to release a patch that fixes some stuff, while breaking others.
It's definitely a shift in direction, and a positive one at that.
That timer thing would be a killer, a total deal breaker ...I hated that in the assassin creed games.
The elephant in the room going all the way back to January -- when this was still just a nightmare on Preview -- is difficulty.
Nothing has been done. Nothing has even been announced.
Bugfixes are always nice, but the elephant is still standing in the middle of the room.
In mod 6, the designers went out of their way to stack the deck against players in every way imaginable, and anyone not wearing plate armor has been hit the hardest. This is what has to change.
Blood Magic (RELEASED) - NW-DUU2P7HCO
Children of the Fey (RELEASED) - NW-DKSSAPFPF
Buried Under Blacklake (WIP) - NW-DEDV2PAEP
The Redcap Rebels (WIP) - NW-DO23AFHFH
My Foundry playthrough channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Ruskaga/featured
Neverwinter: Looking into Elemental Evil
"By Alex Wed 22 Apr 2015 06:34:39 PM PDT"
...and, well, I've heard some soothing noises, seen some small movements in the right direction - which again have ceased.
That is my problem...
As I wrote above: I'm all for having patience. But a one-time burst of communications is one or two powers of ten less than I have expected. Currently I see the apparent standard Cryptic approach of trying to ignore the problem away.
I heard the promise, but I don't see it being honored. This includes as well the state of the game (balance) as the communication...