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New players: What you have to look forward to at lvl 70 :D
overdriver13
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Once you have had a blast leveling your character in this awesome game, you finally grind your way 60-69 and hit level 70. Congratulations!
After spending all that time and probably a few dollars working on your character, you will enjoy the experience at level 70 of having absolutely nothing to do.
Well. That is not entirely true.
If you want to shell out a few hundred dollars there is epic dungeons you can fail at or pvp you can compete in.
But don't forget to spend that money or you will most definitely fail horribly in those epic dungeons, and will hit a ceiling after so many wins in pvp where you are now playing against other players who have spent those hundreds of dollars.
So go ahead and fork out that money so you can fail at epic dungeons and troll the **** out of people who thought they were playing a free game. Make sure after killing some idiot in pvp with gear you bought that he doesn't have, because he has rent to pay, mouths to feed, and his parents don't make his car payments for him, be sure to jump up and down on his body and tell him how much he sucks.
Welcome to Neverwinter and enjoy level 70!!!
After spending all that time and probably a few dollars working on your character, you will enjoy the experience at level 70 of having absolutely nothing to do.
Well. That is not entirely true.
If you want to shell out a few hundred dollars there is epic dungeons you can fail at or pvp you can compete in.
But don't forget to spend that money or you will most definitely fail horribly in those epic dungeons, and will hit a ceiling after so many wins in pvp where you are now playing against other players who have spent those hundreds of dollars.
So go ahead and fork out that money so you can fail at epic dungeons and troll the **** out of people who thought they were playing a free game. Make sure after killing some idiot in pvp with gear you bought that he doesn't have, because he has rent to pay, mouths to feed, and his parents don't make his car payments for him, be sure to jump up and down on his body and tell him how much he sucks.
Welcome to Neverwinter and enjoy level 70!!!
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lol hey I'm not beyond a good QQ on occasion!
1. Run some leveling dungeons until you get some blue gear, (try for at least your chest armor and 1-2 other pieces).
2. make sure to talk to Sgt. Knox and get the quest for your off-hand artifact and an epic level 70 neck item.
3. If you have time, (and hopefully you knocked some of this out on your way to 70), do the 3 "Complete 16 vigilance quests" in Spinward Rise, in order to get your artifact main-hand.
You should now be in a position where you can complete the sets of Sharandar dailies with relative ease. You don't have to worry about Dread Ring yet, if you're finding it too difficult. The same goes for Icewind Dale and the Well of Dragons. You'll probably want to stay on top of your Tyranny of Dragons quests so as to unlock the first few boons from there, as well.
I you have time, quick runs of the leveling version of Temple of the Spider should net you 3 blue items, (just check their levels before ID-ing them, as I sometimes get sub-70 items). Use the free daily chest key and/or check what's in the chest before using up the key, to make sure the item is something you want/need. Once you have all blue gear, give Dread Ring and WoD another try.
As you accrue boons, you should be able to give the T1 dungeons a try.
Personally, I think the gear progression needs some love, and I think we need some other way of getting gear that's better than regular blues, besides the leveling dungeons.
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Hey thanks for not locking this. I leveled a character right at the end of mod 5 and didn't get a chance to get the old mh/oh artifacts, and really it only had enchants that were transferred from other characters. Much like the experience of a new player leveling to 70. Minus the rank 7 and 8 enchantments. I got the green new artifact mh/oh set but tbh they are not as good unrefined as ensorcelled mh/oh.
Without paying for RP it would take about a year of grinding every night for an hour or two, to grind out the rp needed to refine the mh/oh + the artifacts for this character. To the extent that it would have a reasonable shot (if such a thing exists) in an epic dungeon, aka level 70 pve content. As far as pvp is concerned, you are simply only going to win so much (quite a lot actually which kind of makes pvp somehow cheaper to play than pve at the moment), before the elo puts you against the bis players towards the top of the leaderboard. Again $$$.
My point is just that without spending money on this game, most new players are going to hit 70 and it is going to suck horribly for them.
So you mean same content that we had at 60 minus a few dungeons.
This is a very nice summary of what a new player could, or should, do. I have the full burning pvp set, rank 7's and 8's and greater enchants. I forgot about Sharandar and Dread Ring being "level 70 content". Neither are that difficult to me. Boons yes, but the nerfed daily rp rewards are just....bad. So looking at doing something that will get me something worth doing it...Epic Dungeons (aka elol) ....nope. Pay up.
Nah, most people - especially those not new to MMOs, will discover the plethora of ways to make AD and earn their gear either through playing the content or working the economy. New players to MMOs altogether are the only ones I feel may have a hard time understanding things once they got to 70, but that is where players and the community come in, to teach them.
Besides, artifact gear is not a mandatory thing. It's been stated by the devs that content is designed with it in mind that most players will not have the best gear in the game. I recently took my level 62 GWF and geared him up on all blues from the Auction House. I spent less than 15,000 AD for a full set of blue level 61-62 gear. I then placed rank 5's and 6's in his enchantment slots and he was almost at 1.6k IL already.
I've now also geared up two level 70 characters, spending less than 30k AD on each of them in the AH for level 70 blue gear, one wearing the Elemental chest from WoD, the other not. Sure, they're both wearing my best r7-8 enchants but outfitting them in their gear was much easier than it was trying to get their level 60 set gear so long ago. Now they're set and doing well working on their new level 70 ToEE gear.
However, I must admit that I am still quite upset that all our old Set Gear was made obsolete instead of giving it some boost to make it a viable stepping stone for those who do not have a great amount of time or funds to quickly get them in new gear to enjoy the game again. This is the main reason I am no longer playing very many of my characters, because almost all of them are in their T2 gear sets. I do not have the will right now to forgo all of that and start a new because the game decided all the time and effort I spend getting all those character's set gears was worthless.
In any case, this is an MMO, and that means things will take time, dedication and effort. If one is not open to such a game, one should not be playing MMOs in the first place.
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I do not have "BiS" on any character, unless you count a Tenser's disc. Just goes to show how much you know me and how much you assume. Only two of my characters have artifact weapons and off hands, one of which has an arti belt and cloak, and then only one other character has an artifact belt. The rest are all in T1 or T2 gear with R4-R5s. Nice try though.
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What comes in now as part of a reasonable argument are all the things that are already very very very well documented by many players here in the abundance of "unhappy about mod 6" threads.
I will say this though: there really isn't much here for long time players to do without paying money. I mean, there is stuff to do, but not anything that hasn't been done by us a million times before. So some of us stay on and enjoy what we can of pvp and leveling new classes while we look forward to Strongholds and Underdark.
I didn't have to spend anything to reach that enjoyment. However, in total since launch I've bought a DL Pack, Guardian Pack, Steam Starter Kit (fey panther), Paladin pack, Warlock Pack, and HR Pack, as well as around $200 on Zen. Almost all of that Zen has went on companions, mounts, or cosmetics. I have never bought any RP items or used my RLM bought Zen on locked box keys. I only spend Zen bought with AD on keys an non-fluff things.
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Another fix to it, if you are equipping alts, would be to make the eternal armor the same as the blue armor from the T1s, BTA instead of BOP, and all classes armor be able to be bought by any other class. I have well over 600 dragon claws on my main, even after buying the eternal for her.
I think you can do the leveling-Dungeons without. But in T1 you need one, right? I remember good old times, when we even did some T2 without SF or could take 1-2 people without in the harder T2s. But T1 without SF never was a real problem. Yeah...good old times.
Don't you get your trash drops in spineward? I confess I went straight into level 70 purple pvp gear so I have no clue what you get. I never picked up anything that wasn't an npc or chest shovelling it into my inventory.
They might give you better trash in Sharandar and so on in the future but if we aren't kidding ourselves not a lot of this was thought through. The stuff there is what they consider redundant gear. You aren't supposed to be relying on it. You are just there for the boons. Who knows maybe the mobs drop 70 gear.
I don't know how you guys get a decent weapon though. Likely you dont have the rp to make your artifact orange.
It's the fresh lvl 70 that came in after M6 that is getting the dry shaft (no lube) in this situation. Unless they came into M6 with really deep pockets, then, I have no pity on you.
I'm actually using the Celestial weapon on my OP - it's actually better than an unrefined artifact main-hand and they're BoE, so if you've been playing long enough to have 150 coins, you can go that route.
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That was incredibly tedious and could last over 2 months so maybe this is mildly better?
Lol, getting the boons from these areas would help for character progression. Including getting the fourth boon from Sharandar or Dredring on an alt/s to get additional artifacts to fill the other 3 artifact slots. Having the class artifacts help too. Ohhh, the friction! IT BURNS just thinking what a new 70 has to go through.
Dragon Horde enchants now cut you off after you have formed for a certain, yet undisclosed, amount of time. XP from farming is nominal at best. RP from enchant drops are decent but the amount needed to level artifacts have skyrocketed. Dungeons drop only BOP gear and I have yet to see a GMOP drop in the new mod. Guess what, updating your artifacts requires GMOP.
In every other MMO farming is rewarded. It is a necessary evil that is rewarded by upgraded gear, or currency to spend. It is not a fun task but has always been a way to grow your character. The tradeoff for such a boring and repetative task was that you gained gear or currency to progress your character. This game used to reward farming. Instead, fueled by greed and under the guise of busting botters (which is BS, just another play on your wallet), farmers are shunned and nerfed. If you truely only farmed for your items it would take you several lifetimes to reach best in slot.
This behavior will eventually make this game dead. New players will be discouraged and quit. The remaining players will be BiS spenders who will be bored out of their mind as there will be noone on their level to play with/against. The snake has begun eating his tail.
however i cant see people really spending 600 dollars for a single weapon so there will just be a new reinterpreted concept of bis gear.
I call bull, I have spent 0 on this game and I do fine in epic dungeons. The only thing I am against is artifact equipment and I have been against it since mod 4.