I will take back what i said in this post days ago. Shocking execution really needs a FIX. i mean i have 33.5 Dmg resist. 26.5 Def chance. I have the whole t2 burning medic pvp. and a rogue still dealt 94k damage to me. The thing is piercing damage has to go, i agree when people say the piercing damage is broken definitely.
So, we not only have 1 class with 1 broken daily that always existed. But we have paladins with another daily that deals more damage than SE. and a broken encounter from wizards.
I have an idea let's delete all classes and we play with knox
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icyphishMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,255Arc User
edited May 2015
Being a GWF I feel SE is okay, as long as the Piercing Damage's removed. I believe TR needs adjustment, but like what others has said, I dont want them to be over nerfed, the fact is I still beat 80%+ of the TR in battlefield, for those 10~20% TR that actually knows how to play and has BiS gear, its either I get a partner to combo them to death or I just leave them be, the fact is, any BiS TR that knows how to play their class beats GWF/SW 100% all the time, if they dont, they are just bad TRs.
It's a daily bypassing all sources of DR and being a 100% sure big nuke on GWF/SW is plain stupid, nonsense, unbalanced.
Every thread you post in, you make it sound like every TR who blows SE on you is 1-shotting you at full health.
Let's face it: You're ****. Your build is ****.
From the start of Mod 6 until now, I've never seen a SE take more than 50% of my max health.
The problem is obviously you.
Even the OP GWFs back in the days, let's say module3, got to actually aim and time their bugged roar, and if focused they would go down. In fact, they were cancelled in premades and many premade players pointed that out. Also, TRs still got means to avoid roar if they kept moving or were not predictable so that the GWF could not roar them out of stealth. The GWF still got to predict where the stealth TR was in order to hit with Roar. So as OP as they were, it was a big shot away from current SE mechanic vs GWFs/SWs, which can be summarized in:
And TRs now have to aim and time their powers. Even the sad laughing stocks who use Smoke Bomb in PvP have to time and position it.
Your point is irrelevant. Just like all of your complaints.
"i press this button, and no matter what you have, no matter what you do, you lose 70% of your HP. You can be sprinting at the right time, or in unstoppable, or both, have 20/40% tenacity or 42%+ 84% ArP resist, it doesn't matter. I press this button, i get my cookie".
What you mean to say:
WAHH MY CLASS DOESNT HAVE A DODGE NERF EVERYTHING THAT ACTUALLY HURTS ME WAHHH
SW doesn't have a dodge either. I don't see any of the important or good SWs crying a fit on the forum in every thread aimed towards a single class.
It's only you. A GWF. Who complains about TRs all day.
The Devs nerfed GWFs to the ground in module 4 cause, their words:
- IBS landing on proned enemies and bypassing DR and deflect was wrong
- Unstoppable 50% DR popping too often was a non-proactive way of increase survivability
so they nerfed prones, nerfed unstoppable, nerfed det gain, buffed sprint to be "on par with other shift mechanics". Is it? Nope.
Then they nerfed TR into the ground in the same Mod.
Then TR came back in Mod 5.
Then GWF came back in Mod 6.
Now in Mod 6, we have a GWF complaining. Again.
Like I said, none of the good GWFs are filling oceans with tears about TRs. It's just you.
The good GWFs are in game rolling my *** while you're on the forums.
- CW shield on tab providing passive unmitigable DR to a ranged class
You mean:
Then they introduced piercing damage, that we all said was a bad idea, but doesn't contribute to the vast majority of damage a TR puts out.
And a CW Shield that they've had since before you started playing.
- Longer immunity rolls and 4 immunity rolls+ insta dodge (more reactive dodges) for other classes while sprint got a double use (gap closer and defense) but with only a 40% increase and a deleay at start, getting CC immunity which, btw, other dodge mechanics already have. And while a dodge allows other classes to avoid SE, sprint doesn't. On par with other shift mechanics? On par with CW teleport spam, TR dodge roll spam?
Protip: CW's Shift isn't exactly spammable. GWF, SW, and TR all have higher Stamina gain and consecutive shift use than CW. Go figure, right? It's like actually playing the game teaches you more than crying like a ***** on the forums.
Also protip: SW Shift has a delay at the start too.
Another protip: So does TR's dodge rolls.
Mind blowing, isn't it? You can press shift as a TR and still get caught by CC.
It's almost like the person who pulled it off... GASP! Knows how to PvP!
SE being a "press this button, see the GWF losing most of his HPs or just die. GWF got soulforged and you just killed it with SE pressing your "win" button? No problem. You get another SE to kill the **** cockroach again!".
Getting wrecked by SE as a GWF?
Follow these steps:
1) Press C
2) See your gear? it's ****
3) See your stats? it's ****
4) Exit Game
5) Uninstall
6) Get a life
Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?
- Do you know Pando's gear level? I bet you dont. So, mind if you explain yourself about that "Is just a "L2P" issue" complex do you have?
Gear level ceases to matter when all a person does is whine like a ***** on the forums whenever a TR thread pops up.
I've seen a lot of people from the forums in game. Some are surprisingly good and the rest are as bad as you'd assume they are.
- Do you know that ANY bad TR can deal insane amounts of damage? I bet you do... for obvious reason.
I bet I don't, for obvious reasons.
I'm a WK. I don't use ITC. I don't use Lashing Blade. I don't deal insane amounts of damage. Like your boyfriend up there, you're crying about the other paragon.
When you want to try and act clever, it might be a good idea to notice the bright red text under each of my posts that says Whisperknife.
Also, no, bad TRs don't deal insane damage.
Geared TRs don't deal insane damage. They deal pretty average/decent amounts of damage.
I see CWs and GWFs putting out more damage and being more of a threat.
Then again, I don't cry on the forums all day like some of you.
- Do you know that hits like the one from my own OP post just wipes almost 63% , to be a bit more precisse, of my health bar in TANK build? Also, while i agree that my IL is just 2.5k, that TR's item level were 2.1k (do not remember the exact amount, sorry but i got more IL than him for sure).
Remember back before iLvl? When we had GS?
Remember what GS was calculated on?
Remember when you could have 2k+ GS with the stats of some 1.5k random?
See my point here?
Of course you don't.
THANKS!!!! im very happy with it. hit me up ingame if you wanna pvp sometime or hell even pve if you like... wolf4@blackxxwolf3
I was too shy to PM you because of you're in Purple Dragons. That means you're extremely good and well geared with mythics, legendaries, and rank 12's right? I was intimidated and thought you would reject me and call me a peasant.
I was too shy to PM you because of you're in Purple Dragons. That means you're extremely good and well geared with mythics, legendaries, and rank 12's right? I was intimidated and thought you would reject me and call me a peasant.
I was scared.
bahahhaa i love the sarcasm. just rank 8s and epics. i wish i had mythics. rp is just too hard to come by.
bahahhaa i love the sarcasm. just rank 8s and epics. i wish i had mythics. rp is just too hard to come by.
I'm not sarcastic I'm a fan of anyone from Purple Dragons! They're the best in the whole game's history!!
The fact that I'm talking to a purple dragon right now is making me feel dizzy.
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dragoness10Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 780Arc User
edited May 2015
I remember when I picked up Shocking Execution just because I had enough of people telling me how worthless it was as a power, and I was determined to show it wasn't. Now there's a nerf request.
Interesting how these things rotate around.
" I tried to figure out the enigma that was you, and then I realized mastering Wild Magic was easier." - Old Wizard in Waterdeep
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icyphishMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,255Arc User
- Do you know Pando's gear level? I bet you dont. So, mind if you explain yourself about that "Is just a "L2P" issue" complex do you have?
- Do you know that ANY bad TR can deal insane amounts of damage? I bet you do... for obvious reason.
- Do you know that hits like the one from my own OP post just wipes almost 63% , to be a bit more precisse, of my health bar in TANK build? Also, while i agree that my IL is just 2.5k, that TR's item level were 2.1k (do not remember the exact amount, sorry but i got more IL than him for sure).
- BTW, do you know that you are contradicting yourself on your own post, right? I bet you dont for obvious reasons.
I stopped reading his walls of text weeks ago when he went from discussion to raging personal attacks, skipping his WoTs since then and didn't regret the choice.
No he does not know my gear and he purposefully ignored the many times i wrote i can counter TRs in game with my experience in game. Like icydrake said about himself pretty much, 80% of the times i can outplay them and win. Same goes for CWs but that does not mean Storm Spell is a balanced mechanic and i should not ask for changes.
What matters to me is that other, more geared GWFs with long premade experience (ayroux aka Mjioldnir, Tyrion, exc...) pointed out the exact, same issues.
And i tend to believe to them instead of a forum TR that in game got a 1.5/1 K/D ratio when i checked it after his initial replies, where his class mates have about 4/1 ratios and above.
It's also pure logic that a daily should respect tenacity in PvP since all the other dailies do the same, and that it's not balance when a daily can reportedly hit 70k+ 100% on classes with no dodge, going through everything.
Be it ITC or something else, a fix is needed. In the case of this specific thread, SE being the ONLY DAILY/ POWER FULLY IGNORING TENACITY and piercing damage in general.
HR piercing damage was fixed. Same must be for TR piercing damage and SE. It's pure logic and if then the class will need some other buffs, those buffs will be discussed. But a broken mechanic is still a broken mechanic. Period.
I was too shy to PM you because of you're in Purple Dragons. That means you're extremely good and well geared with mythics, legendaries, and rank 12's right? I was intimidated and thought you would reject me and call me a peasant.
I was scared.
No need to be a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
With his last answer, I get why you did it... but seems like is the same "i am the best and most skillful PvP player of the whole server" complex that a lot of of TR-players have right now or CW-players had back on mod 4 and a lot of them still have... Would not be surprised at all if he thinks that "that counter mechanic" vs S.E. is "Mighty Leap"...
BTW, do you mean Ayroux's GWF "Mjolnir"???
Yeah i wrote the wrong name. They are all BiS GWFs with 2 years+ experience in PvP with top PvP guilds, and they say the same things.
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icyphishMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,255Arc User
edited May 2015
Yes, GWF is hopeless against top tier TRs at the moment since we have no way to avoid those 60k~100k SE attacks, however, we can still be very monsterous against most other players and combo most other players to death within a few sec, I say GWF is fine. Once they fix up the deflectable stun thingie for GWF, we would have our chance to give them a good beat. Yes they might be able to hit us 60~100k unavoidable damage in one hit, but one of our undeflectable combos could put them down in a few seconds, it would still be disadvantaged (since they can perm stealth) but we will have a lot better chance
Talking about that, when are we getting our promised GWF buffs (((((
Also... I wonder if they would ever fix up TR's 2 second reveal thingie...... it could become a manhunt for GWF to whack down those TRs once those two gets fixed up....
Yes, GWF is hopeless against top tier TRs at the moment since we have no way to avoid those 60k~100k SE attacks, however, we can still be very monsterous against most other players and combo most other players to death within a few sec, I say GWF is fine. Once they fix up the deflectable stun thingie for GWF, we would have our chance to give them a good beat. Yes they might be able to hit us 60~100k unavoidable damage in one hit, but one of our undeflectable combos could put them down in a few seconds, it would still be disadvantaged (since they can perm stealth) but we will have a lot better chance
Talking about that, when are we getting our promised GWF buffs (((((
Also... I wonder if they would ever fix up TR's 2 second reveal thingie...... it could become a manhunt for GWF to whack down those TRs once those two gets fixed up....
as panderous said it was not promised at all. they should the words "should" and "want" never the word promise. in other words they most likely changed their mind and tbh gwfs are in a very good spot currently. there are a lot of them in pvp and usually topping the leader boards in every game.
And i tend to believe to them instead of a forum TR that in game got a 1.5/1 K/D ratio when i checked it after his initial replies
kd ratio in objective-based game = important.
Meanwhile on Neverforums...
Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
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icyphishMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,255Arc User
edited May 2015
Regardless he 'whines' or not, that does not change the fact.
Top tier TR vs top Tier GWF (especially with Lostmauth's set equipped proccing 100% of the time in stealth), we all know the result and the reason is very obvious, its only those TR that has not mastered their skills that allows the better GWF to put them down.
Yes Tyrion and Ayroux has been voicing out the balancing issue about 'particular' skills in concern, and we all agree the issue should be addressed, but the class should NOT be over-nerfed. Dev should seek ways to balance out the situation and rewards the disadvantaged opponents accordingly. (such as what Ayroux has mentioned, remove node capping ability while in stealthed, this way it does not nerf the TR's abilities and they can be as good as they are in PvP/PvE just like now )
Simply put, if your TR gets beaten by a GWF in 1 vs 1, you really need to practice more. I can find some TR in my guild and I bet you they would beat ANY GWF 1 vs 1 anytime If you disagree, then we can always arrange a trail and bet some GMOPs on it
Yes, GWF is hopeless against top tier TRs at the moment since we have no way to avoid those 60k~100k SE attacks, however, we can still be very monsterous against most other players and combo most other players to death within a few sec, I say GWF is fine. Once they fix up the deflectable stun thingie for GWF, we would have our chance to give them a good beat. Yes they might be able to hit us 60~100k unavoidable damage in one hit, but one of our undeflectable combos could put them down in a few seconds, it would still be disadvantaged (since they can perm stealth) but we will have a lot better chance
Talking about that, when are we getting our promised GWF buffs (((((
Also... I wonder if they would ever fix up TR's 2 second reveal thingie...... it could become a manhunt for GWF to whack down those TRs once those two gets fixed up....
Yeah gwf is good to play now. Monster damage but built slowly. I think too that considring how a whole rotation for gwf depends on stun to last at least 2-3 seconds depending on your distance from the target, a non-deflectable stun would help making the class feel more reliable.
But panderus already said they are not promised and imho gwf is at the bottom of their list of things to work on.
On a side note, gwf classe is still very gear-hungry, with negation+pure-trans lifedrinker and 20% LS chance is quite a monster mainly because that combo of stats-enchants makes up for the supposed squishiness of the build. Other enchants are a long shot behind.
Undeflected stuns however are needed along with shocking exec fix vs gwf/sws, mainly because hitting consistently a TR through dodge-immunities-stealth with fls and see Jim/her rolling away before you can land ibs, nullifying the whole rotation, is just as stupid as a 100% hit heavy damage se unavoidable for gwf/sws.
Regardless he 'whines' or not, that does not change the fact.
Top tier TR vs top Tier GWF (especially with Lostmauth's set equipped proccing 100% of the time in stealth), we all know the result and the reason is very obvious, its only those TR that has not mastered their skills that allows the better GWF to put them down.
Yes Tyrion and Ayroux has been voicing out the balancing issue about 'particular' skills in concern, and we all agree the issue should be addressed, but the class should NOT be over-nerfed. Dev should seek ways to balance out the situation and rewards the disadvantaged opponents accordingly. (such as what Ayroux has mentioned, remove node capping ability while in stealthed, this way it does not nerf the TR's abilities and they can be as good as they are in PvP/PvE just like now )
Simply put, if your TR gets beaten by a GWF in 1 vs 1, you really need to practice more. I can find some TR in my guild and I bet you they would beat ANY GWF 1 vs 1 anytime If you disagree, then we can always arrange a trail and bet some GMOPs on it
I talk about facts he decided to stick to personal attacks. Not my problem. Don't know what be wrote this time but the usual no-argument attacks i guess. Yeah tyrion made a thread about the same TR survivability issue. Ayroux posted about it too. And no real counter-argument was ever posted except prediction stuff and nonsense mighty leap rotations.
I posted many times during module 2 and 3 defending permastealth as the TR low DPS made it a low- risk/low- reward mechanic. Current TR DPS and buffed deflect/dodge rolls changed that. I don't want the class to be cover-nerfed like gwf class was in module 4. Just changes to make it more proactive and less cheesy. Same i would say for cws. I like proactive gameplay. Current gwf, for example, is much more fun to play than a module 2-3 gwf. TR and CW are now like a module 2-3 gwf. I'd make them work in a more proactive and balanced way, keeping the overall strenght of the class on par with the gwf class. Then buff warlocks to put them on par with the above. Take away hard target lock to have perfect GF gameplay. Not sure about HR DC paladins, need to work more on my HR and DC.
Regardless he 'whines' or not, that does not change the fact.
Top tier TR vs top Tier GWF (especially with Lostmauth's set equipped proccing 100% of the time in stealth), we all know the result and the reason is very obvious, its only those TR that has not mastered their skills that allows the better GWF to put them down.
Yes Tyrion and Ayroux has been voicing out the balancing issue about 'particular' skills in concern, and we all agree the issue should be addressed, but the class should NOT be over-nerfed. Dev should seek ways to balance out the situation and rewards the disadvantaged opponents accordingly. (such as what Ayroux has mentioned, remove node capping ability while in stealthed, this way it does not nerf the TR's abilities and they can be as good as they are in PvP/PvE just like now )
Simply put, if your TR gets beaten by a GWF in 1 vs 1, you really need to practice more. I can find some TR in my guild and I bet you they would beat ANY GWF 1 vs 1 anytime If you disagree, then we can always arrange a trail and bet some GMOPs on it
and record it you gotta record it. i would love to watch but i believe you. ive never seen bis tr vs bis gwf its rare.
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So, we not only have 1 class with 1 broken daily that always existed. But we have paladins with another daily that deals more damage than SE. and a broken encounter from wizards.
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
Every thread you post in, you make it sound like every TR who blows SE on you is 1-shotting you at full health.
Let's face it: You're ****. Your build is ****.
From the start of Mod 6 until now, I've never seen a SE take more than 50% of my max health.
The problem is obviously you.
And TRs now have to aim and time their powers. Even the sad laughing stocks who use Smoke Bomb in PvP have to time and position it.
Your point is irrelevant. Just like all of your complaints.
What you mean to say:
WAHH MY CLASS DOESNT HAVE A DODGE NERF EVERYTHING THAT ACTUALLY HURTS ME WAHHH
SW doesn't have a dodge either. I don't see any of the important or good SWs crying a fit on the forum in every thread aimed towards a single class.
It's only you. A GWF. Who complains about TRs all day.
****ing pathetic.
Then they nerfed TR into the ground in the same Mod.
Then TR came back in Mod 5.
Then GWF came back in Mod 6.
Now in Mod 6, we have a GWF complaining. Again.
Like I said, none of the good GWFs are filling oceans with tears about TRs. It's just you.
The good GWFs are in game rolling my *** while you're on the forums.
You mean:
Then they introduced piercing damage, that we all said was a bad idea, but doesn't contribute to the vast majority of damage a TR puts out.
And a CW Shield that they've had since before you started playing.
Groovy!
Protip: CW's Shift isn't exactly spammable. GWF, SW, and TR all have higher Stamina gain and consecutive shift use than CW. Go figure, right? It's like actually playing the game teaches you more than crying like a ***** on the forums.
Also protip: SW Shift has a delay at the start too.
Another protip: So does TR's dodge rolls.
Mind blowing, isn't it? You can press shift as a TR and still get caught by CC.
It's almost like the person who pulled it off... GASP! Knows how to PvP!
Stop queueing.
Getting wrecked by SE as a GWF?
Follow these steps:
1) Press C
2) See your gear? it's ****
3) See your stats? it's ****
4) Exit Game
5) Uninstall
6) Get a life
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Here's my question: Who are you?
Gear level ceases to matter when all a person does is whine like a ***** on the forums whenever a TR thread pops up.
I've seen a lot of people from the forums in game. Some are surprisingly good and the rest are as bad as you'd assume they are.
I bet I don't, for obvious reasons.
I'm a WK. I don't use ITC. I don't use Lashing Blade. I don't deal insane amounts of damage. Like your boyfriend up there, you're crying about the other paragon.
When you want to try and act clever, it might be a good idea to notice the bright red text under each of my posts that says Whisperknife.
Also, no, bad TRs don't deal insane damage.
Geared TRs don't deal insane damage. They deal pretty average/decent amounts of damage.
I see CWs and GWFs putting out more damage and being more of a threat.
Then again, I don't cry on the forums all day like some of you.
Remember back before iLvl? When we had GS?
Remember what GS was calculated on?
Remember when you could have 2k+ GS with the stats of some 1.5k random?
See my point here?
Of course you don't.
Btw, do you know that you're a GWF crying about TRs?
The irony is palpable.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Yup.
I'm out.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Typical TR potato quoting and editing the snip with some sarcastic remark when getting served. Carry on, TR potato.
Oh and.
Hey congrats for making it to Purple Dragons!!
#1 Guild in the whole game
THANKS!!!! im very happy with it. hit me up ingame if you wanna pvp sometime or hell even pve if you like... wolf4@blackxxwolf3
I was too shy to PM you because of you're in Purple Dragons. That means you're extremely good and well geared with mythics, legendaries, and rank 12's right? I was intimidated and thought you would reject me and call me a peasant.
I was scared.
I'm not sarcastic I'm a fan of anyone from Purple Dragons! They're the best in the whole game's history!!
The fact that I'm talking to a purple dragon right now is making me feel dizzy.
Interesting how these things rotate around.
"Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."
"Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
I heard Purple Dragon is a yummy Asian Fry Noodle, is it really tasty? @_@
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
I stopped reading his walls of text weeks ago when he went from discussion to raging personal attacks, skipping his WoTs since then and didn't regret the choice.
No he does not know my gear and he purposefully ignored the many times i wrote i can counter TRs in game with my experience in game. Like icydrake said about himself pretty much, 80% of the times i can outplay them and win. Same goes for CWs but that does not mean Storm Spell is a balanced mechanic and i should not ask for changes.
What matters to me is that other, more geared GWFs with long premade experience (ayroux aka Mjioldnir, Tyrion, exc...) pointed out the exact, same issues.
And i tend to believe to them instead of a forum TR that in game got a 1.5/1 K/D ratio when i checked it after his initial replies, where his class mates have about 4/1 ratios and above.
It's also pure logic that a daily should respect tenacity in PvP since all the other dailies do the same, and that it's not balance when a daily can reportedly hit 70k+ 100% on classes with no dodge, going through everything.
Be it ITC or something else, a fix is needed. In the case of this specific thread, SE being the ONLY DAILY/ POWER FULLY IGNORING TENACITY and piercing damage in general.
HR piercing damage was fixed. Same must be for TR piercing damage and SE. It's pure logic and if then the class will need some other buffs, those buffs will be discussed. But a broken mechanic is still a broken mechanic. Period.
No need to be a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
Yeah i wrote the wrong name. They are all BiS GWFs with 2 years+ experience in PvP with top PvP guilds, and they say the same things.
Talking about that, when are we getting our promised GWF buffs
Also... I wonder if they would ever fix up TR's 2 second reveal thingie...... it could become a manhunt for GWF to whack down those TRs once those two gets fixed up....
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
and still whine like a ***** on the forums.
I've seen SWs counter me but I don't make a thread every time it happens.
kd ratio in objective-based game = important.
Meanwhile on Neverforums...
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Top tier TR vs top Tier GWF (especially with Lostmauth's set equipped proccing 100% of the time in stealth), we all know the result and the reason is very obvious, its only those TR that has not mastered their skills that allows the better GWF to put them down.
Yes Tyrion and Ayroux has been voicing out the balancing issue about 'particular' skills in concern, and we all agree the issue should be addressed, but the class should NOT be over-nerfed. Dev should seek ways to balance out the situation and rewards the disadvantaged opponents accordingly. (such as what Ayroux has mentioned, remove node capping ability while in stealthed, this way it does not nerf the TR's abilities and they can be as good as they are in PvP/PvE just like now
Simply put, if your TR gets beaten by a GWF in 1 vs 1, you really need to practice more. I can find some TR in my guild and I bet you they would beat ANY GWF 1 vs 1 anytime
Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
Yeah gwf is good to play now. Monster damage but built slowly. I think too that considring how a whole rotation for gwf depends on stun to last at least 2-3 seconds depending on your distance from the target, a non-deflectable stun would help making the class feel more reliable.
But panderus already said they are not promised and imho gwf is at the bottom of their list of things to work on.
On a side note, gwf classe is still very gear-hungry, with negation+pure-trans lifedrinker and 20% LS chance is quite a monster mainly because that combo of stats-enchants makes up for the supposed squishiness of the build. Other enchants are a long shot behind.
Undeflected stuns however are needed along with shocking exec fix vs gwf/sws, mainly because hitting consistently a TR through dodge-immunities-stealth with fls and see Jim/her rolling away before you can land ibs, nullifying the whole rotation, is just as stupid as a 100% hit heavy damage se unavoidable for gwf/sws.
I talk about facts he decided to stick to personal attacks. Not my problem. Don't know what be wrote this time but the usual no-argument attacks i guess. Yeah tyrion made a thread about the same TR survivability issue. Ayroux posted about it too. And no real counter-argument was ever posted except prediction stuff and nonsense mighty leap rotations.
I posted many times during module 2 and 3 defending permastealth as the TR low DPS made it a low- risk/low- reward mechanic. Current TR DPS and buffed deflect/dodge rolls changed that. I don't want the class to be cover-nerfed like gwf class was in module 4. Just changes to make it more proactive and less cheesy. Same i would say for cws. I like proactive gameplay. Current gwf, for example, is much more fun to play than a module 2-3 gwf. TR and CW are now like a module 2-3 gwf. I'd make them work in a more proactive and balanced way, keeping the overall strenght of the class on par with the gwf class. Then buff warlocks to put them on par with the above. Take away hard target lock to have perfect GF gameplay. Not sure about HR DC paladins, need to work more on my HR and DC.