Gotta love the L2p comments here. As a fairly new player (started a week or 2 before this mod came out) I am put off by the difficulty. My philosophy is save the hard stuff for group content (dungeons, pvp, raids, etc) but let the average person have success in the base solo play. I really have no desire to put any more money into this game until I feel I have a reasonable chance at success. A person shouldn't have to optimize just to play the game.
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urlord283Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,084Arc User
Yes, quite easily, laz did Biggrin as 1000 ilvl GWF
Yes, in ToD, DR and Sharandar i dont even stop for individual groups, i just stop for resource catches and doors and murder everything, in Dread spire i just run til the end and kill everything there.
havent tried, dont really care about that pathetic excuse of a raid turned zergfest
your statement about solo content being impossible says otherwise
I really want too see the 1000ilvl biggrins video. do you have the link?
Gotta love the L2p comments here. As a fairly new player (started a week or 2 before this mod came out) I am put off by the difficulty. My philosophy is save the hard stuff for group content (dungeons, pvp, raids, etc) but let the average person have success in the base solo play. I really have no desire to put any more money into this game until I feel I have a reasonable chance at success. A person shouldn't have to optimize just to play the game.
This is a legitimate request (as long as dungeons remain untouched!) but NPCs have been nerfed twice since mod 6, I mean come on. I've played a dread ring lair yesterday, and never dropped under 90% health with my healer using no healing spell... And my cleric's dps is horribly low.
this is not really the case for mod6 for certain pack of mobs especially in DR, Shar, and above map. I'm not talking about encounter, just the regular mobs in open field... I believe certain class especially those with full support build or those that without decent dps or unable to CC can't solo.
I tried with my VDC, 1.6/1.7k ilvl, 50/50 r5~7, more than half boon completed. no matter how hard i dodge and numerous possible encounter power combination i tested, i still end up dead. Even if manage to, the time and costs spent solo killing just that pack of mobs is not worth it.
I can solo with my CW and i'm only 2250 item score.
It was difficult at first but then I followed ironzerg79 guide on player build and it greatly helped me. I rarely need to use health potion since the life steal simply does the job for me. I used to have difficulty with the thyan gear mission, but now I can do it without any help.
We have a HR in our guild that told me yesterday he has been finding it easier by the day and can solo most content now as well(just like me no dungeon solo) .
He is also 2.1k+ So I believe it is not just the gear that is making it difficult like in my case it is the wrong build. with the same IS my character feels like it had a massive transformation after the respec.
There are more than BIS players in this game RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ???? FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
Do some of you even realize that 2k+ item score is already high? Most normal players are barely at 1.6-1.8k, with only a few boons unlocked. This is not a single player game, where it's fine if only a few people can play the highest difficulty. The content needs to be accessible by everyone or else there is just nothing to do for most players.
He is also 2.1k+ So I believe it is not just the gear that is making it difficult like in my case it is the wrong build. with the same IS my character feels like it had a massive transformation after the respec.
And here is the problem. You should not need to run a fully optimised build just for dailies. Ever. It's bonkers.
Can you record every single quest in Dragon Well, IWD, especially Dread Spire for me please?. I'm not an older gamer. I started playing last weekend. I'm really surprised that those 71-73 mobs are really that strong. I'm 1.6 GWF. The boss in Dread Spire is undefeatable, unless I have proper gear. And please, don't ever make those statements. Those sound ******ed
Can you record every single quest in Dragon Well, IWD, especially Dread Spire for me please?. I'm not an older gamer. I started playing last weekend. I'm really surprised that those 71-73 mobs are really that strong. I'm 1.6 GWF. The boss in Dread Spire is undefeatable, unless I have proper gear. And please, don't ever make those statements. Those sound <removed>
Dude that's how mmos work, get a good build or go in your corner cry alone about your inability to do the simplest thing.
I've been playing MMO's since most likely before you were born, and that is NOT how they operate for normal daily content. For group content? Sure, especially for the highest level content. For solo dailies? Nope.
And there is a big difference between a 'good' build and an 'optimised' build.
Can you record every single quest in Dragon Well, IWD, especially Dread Spire for me please?. I'm not an older gamer. I started playing last weekend. I'm really surprised that those 71-73 mobs are really that strong. I'm 1.6 GWF. The boss in Dread Spire is undefeatable, unless I have proper gear. And please, don't ever make those statements. Those sound <removed>
might just do that while running daily quests later today
Not every MMO have so hard daily quest. For example RIFT's daily quest can be done by newbes even with very bad gear. Their catching up system is a lot more casual friendly and it scale better from newbe to average to end game content. Though combat system is pretty boring as just click the target and never have to aim to it again.
Can you record every single quest in Dragon Well, IWD, especially Dread Spire for me please?. I'm not an older gamer. I started playing last weekend. I'm really surprised that those 71-73 mobs are really that strong. I'm 1.6 GWF. The boss in Dread Spire is undefeatable, unless I have proper gear. And please, don't ever make those statements. Those sound ******ed
Dread Spire is now endgame content meant to played "after" you complete the new Mod6 leveling areas. Have you done all the new Druid Morningstar quest zones and obtained the quest rewards, specifically the artifact offhand and mainhand? If you had done these and equipped level 70 blue gear you can get for next to nothing off auction hall, your character should be higher than 1.6K total item level. Once you finish that return to Dread Ring and see the difference.
might just do that while running daily quests later today
re-trait to Oath of Devotion, record yourself as a healer build soloing IWD and WoD please. Since you told me I should be owning it up, please show me the video of how it's done.
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ghoulz66Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,748Arc User
Dread Spire is now endgame content meant to played "after" you complete the new Mod6 leveling areas. Have you done all the new Druid Morningstar quest zones and obtained the quest rewards, specifically the artifact offhand and mainhand? If you had done these and equipped level 70 blue gear you can get for next to nothing off auction hall, your character should be higher than 1.6K total item level. Once you finish that return to Dread Ring and see the difference.
Yeah before killing the Knight Commander was one of the first things you did after hitting 60. Now you gotta grind pvp or T1s for gear to take him on now? What a load of bs.
And didn't they nerf the DR rewards...? Why would anyone bother now?
Get boons for endgame content. Need to grind endgame content for the gear to do endgame content. Need the gear for boons for endgame content.....
Can you record every single quest in Dragon Well, IWD, especially Dread Spire for me please?. I'm not an older gamer. I started playing last weekend. I'm really surprised that those 71-73 mobs are really that strong. I'm 1.6 GWF. The boss in Dread Spire is undefeatable, unless I have proper gear. And please, don't ever make those statements. Those sound <removed>
heres my cannibalized 1600 ilvl GWF in Dread Spire, will be doing other daily quests later, will see if i have some WoD lairs available http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyYS83qfEr0
that speed almost makes me want to drop my paladin and play GWF again
You will find the people who have the most trouble with solo content, aren't using a complimentary companion. Companions no longer suck, and they help tremendously. Put the Iouns away, and use something that covers for the weakness in your class.
Ahh, this is good stuff. Obviously if the content is easy for 1 class it is clearly just as easy for any other.
Seems legit.
my other classes are just leadership alts, been playing gwf almost exclusively since launch, now traded for paladin though if well get more tanks in guild i might switch back, and the post i posted this as a reply to stated that hes having problems with 1.6k gs GWF
You will find the people who have the most trouble with solo content, aren't using a complimentary companion. Companions no longer suck, and they help tremendously. Put the Iouns away, and use something that covers for the weakness in your class.
Healing companions might be great for dps classes, but for a class like a cleric dps/tank/controller companions are not as powerful as the healing companions. The healing companions can cover the weakness of uber dps classes, for anything else its still meh. Take a cragmire crypt run for example, before the last boss a cw had 70 million damage in paingiver and I had 5 million, in field medic I had 8 million and they had 2 million, most of that healing I assume they got from their expensive healer companion. I am not asking for a companion to make me compete at paingiver, but there is no striker companion that can dish out dps like a healer companion can dish out healing. Also I do not care if I end always end last in paingiver in parties, but those numbers show that for soloing non healing companions are not great. The same applies to the tank companions, at best they buy you a few seconds, then the mob ignore them and go for you.
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instynctiveMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,885Arc User
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Hehe, I think there are other ways to play Paladin that are just as 'right'. Just because one build is uber survivable, doesn't make others invalid.
If they can't be then there is a problem
I really want too see the 1000ilvl biggrins video. do you have the link?
Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
This is a legitimate request (as long as dungeons remain untouched!) but NPCs have been nerfed twice since mod 6, I mean come on. I've played a dread ring lair yesterday, and never dropped under 90% health with my healer using no healing spell... And my cleric's dps is horribly low.
I tried with my VDC, 1.6/1.7k ilvl, 50/50 r5~7, more than half boon completed. no matter how hard i dodge and numerous possible encounter power combination i tested, i still end up dead. Even if manage to, the time and costs spent solo killing just that pack of mobs is not worth it.
On my TR is ok although not without some costs
It was difficult at first but then I followed ironzerg79 guide on player build and it greatly helped me. I rarely need to use health potion since the life steal simply does the job for me. I used to have difficulty with the thyan gear mission, but now I can do it without any help.
We have a HR in our guild that told me yesterday he has been finding it easier by the day and can solo most content now as well(just like me no dungeon solo) .
He is also 2.1k+ So I believe it is not just the gear that is making it difficult like in my case it is the wrong build. with the same IS my character feels like it had a massive transformation after the respec.
RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
"ONLY" 2250 item score. That's above the min requirement for T2 dungeons, the highest difficulty group content in the game!
Dude that's how mmos work, get a good build or go in your corner cry alone about your inability to do the simplest thing.
Can you record every single quest in Dragon Well, IWD, especially Dread Spire for me please?. I'm not an older gamer. I started playing last weekend. I'm really surprised that those 71-73 mobs are really that strong. I'm 1.6 GWF. The boss in Dread Spire is undefeatable, unless I have proper gear. And please, don't ever make those statements. Those sound <removed>
And there is a big difference between a 'good' build and an 'optimised' build.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
might just do that while running daily quests later today
Dread Spire is now endgame content meant to played "after" you complete the new Mod6 leveling areas. Have you done all the new Druid Morningstar quest zones and obtained the quest rewards, specifically the artifact offhand and mainhand? If you had done these and equipped level 70 blue gear you can get for next to nothing off auction hall, your character should be higher than 1.6K total item level. Once you finish that return to Dread Ring and see the difference.
re-trait to Oath of Devotion, record yourself as a healer build soloing IWD and WoD please. Since you told me I should be owning it up, please show me the video of how it's done.
Yeah before killing the Knight Commander was one of the first things you did after hitting 60. Now you gotta grind pvp or T1s for gear to take him on now? What a load of bs.
And didn't they nerf the DR rewards...? Why would anyone bother now?
Get boons for endgame content. Need to grind endgame content for the gear to do endgame content. Need the gear for boons for endgame content.....
heres my cannibalized 1600 ilvl GWF in Dread Spire, will be doing other daily quests later, will see if i have some WoD lairs available
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyYS83qfEr0
that speed almost makes me want to drop my paladin and play GWF again
Seems legit.
my other classes are just leadership alts, been playing gwf almost exclusively since launch, now traded for paladin though if well get more tanks in guild i might switch back, and the post i posted this as a reply to stated that hes having problems with 1.6k gs GWF
Nice. You can double your speed if you change to sword master ^^ . But for that iLevel its nice wot you do with your gwf.
Healing companions might be great for dps classes, but for a class like a cleric dps/tank/controller companions are not as powerful as the healing companions. The healing companions can cover the weakness of uber dps classes, for anything else its still meh. Take a cragmire crypt run for example, before the last boss a cw had 70 million damage in paingiver and I had 5 million, in field medic I had 8 million and they had 2 million, most of that healing I assume they got from their expensive healer companion. I am not asking for a companion to make me compete at paingiver, but there is no striker companion that can dish out dps like a healer companion can dish out healing. Also I do not care if I end always end last in paingiver in parties, but those numbers show that for soloing non healing companions are not great. The same applies to the tank companions, at best they buy you a few seconds, then the mob ignore them and go for you.
My GWF is ilvl 1900, and my partner runs an iLvl 1800 TR. We get squashed in IWD.
Save your flaming/trolling. We have great builds and know what we're doing.
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
Hi, here: https://youtu.be/Bo6ldYNvuhw?list=PLbXDrYZP1C1QzweFCgjyds25ykRX-Z4zr
Biggrin's Tomb with 1000 ilvl.
https://youtu.be/4DWY7l3RSS8?list=PLbXDrYZP1C1QzweFCgjyds25ykRX-Z4zr
And Dread Spire with 535 ilvl.
There's something super fishy about that video... my GWF does half the damage the one in the video is doing...
Where did the lightning come from? Where did the Astral Shield come from? How is it that your determination and AP refill so fast?
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
Could you please tell me when does the "Astral Ahield" appeared? Thank you.