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  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I don't blame any player for choosing to go the sabo line, but personally i don't like it.

    I made my TR cause i fell in love with the quick action and motion, but i have never been a perma, always hated the perma stuff, simply not fair in my eyes.

    For those people who go with it, i have now much more understanding, than i used to have before i didn't have a TR.

    EXE tree is very weak now and survivability is also crippled without too much use of stealth.
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I don't blame any player for choosing to go the sabo line, but personally i don't like it.

    I made my TR cause i fell in love with the quick action and motion, but i have never been a perma, always hated the perma stuff, simply not fair in my eyes.

    For those people who go with it, i have now much more understanding, than i used to have before i didn't have a TR.

    EXE tree is very weak now and survivability is also crippled without too much use of stealth.

    There are ways to be productive and increase survivability for an Exec TR. I have worked on a build based on an old theory-crafting build. It is rather fun to play.

    I have considered Sab, but I have heard from very experienced guildie that he switched and is not all that pleased.
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    To all who fear GF might dominate (lol)
    7.00 minute and 15 minute.
    Vs possibly the best geared GF in games.4 secs...
    15.42-15.46. Enjoy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpbgQ6C2LAM

    the healing/selfheal ability of this CW facing 2 vs 1 (tank+healer!?) in this mannor must be called redicules, noone could say anything against it, i agree, but I have to admit this player is a really scilled one for sure

    I don´t mind , this game can´t balance classes, so: " TR-hopper play CW, I changed my mind", thats the way to go, allways jump over to the cheapest class, follow the red sign "The easy way"
  • hypervoreianhypervoreian Member Posts: 1,036 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    adamy2004 wrote: »
    too bad for players that actually know the facts, dom didnt have his BiS pvp gear right away, and in that video was running with the blue set. so your statement is extremely inaccurate.

    .....[Combat (Self)] Your Health Regen gives 6128 (5339) Hit Points to you.[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 2989 (13333) Lightning Damage to you with Storm Spell. [Combat (Self)] Your Take Measure absorbs 590 damage from "CW" Entangling Force. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 1481 (4794) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force. [Combat (Self)] "CW" deals 213 (600) Fire Damage to you with Aspect of Flames. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 1308 (4794) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force. [Combat (Self)] "CW" deals 177 (600) Fire Damage to you with Aspect of Flames. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 3820 (12125) Arcane Damage to you with Repel. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power. [Combat (Self)] "CW" deals 314 (600) Fire Damage to you with Aspect of Flames. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 1306 (4794) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 5129 (14618) Lightning Damage to you with Storm Spell. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 1130 (3222) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 5266 (15008) Lightning Damage to you with Storm Spell. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 1479 (4794) Arcane Damage to you with Entangling Force. [Combat (Self)] You cannot use this power. [Combat (Self)] Not enough Action Points. [Combat (Self)] Your Cold Shoulder absorbs 1680 damage from "CW" Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" gives 0 (4831) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Your Shielded Resurgence gives 631 (1100) Hit Points to you.....


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    r Jagged Blades deals 292 (1326) Physical Damage to "CW". [Combat (Self)] Cannot activate while dazed. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 373 (1222) Arcane Damage to you with Oppressive Force. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 390 (1290) Arcane Damage to you with Oppressive Force. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 546 (3121) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 4597 (15213) Lightning Damage to you with Storm Spell. [Combat (Self)] "CW" Shield absorbs 440 damage from your Augmented Thayan Bastion. [Combat (Self)] "CW" Shield absorbs 1409 damage from your Augmented Thayan Bastion. [Combat (Self)] Your Augmented Thayan Bastion deals 817 (3121) Necrotic Damage to "CW". [Combat (Self)] Your Augmented Thayan Bastion deals 2617 (10000) Necrotic Damage to "CW". [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 15 (1615) Arcane Damage to you with Oppressive Force. [Combat (Self)] "CW" Shield absorbs 228 damage from your Augmented Thayan Bastion. [Combat (Self)] "CW" Shield absorbs 228 damage from your Augmented Thayan Bastion. [Combat (Self)] "CW" Shield absorbs 157 damage from your Jagged Blades. [Combat (Self)] Your Augmented Thayan Bastion deals 423 (1615) Necrotic Damage to "CW". [Combat (Self)] Your Augmented Thayan Bastion deals 423 (1615) Necrotic Damage to "CW". [Combat (Self)] Your Jagged Blades deals 292 (1326) Physical Damage to "CW". [Combat (Self)] Your Elven Tranquility gives 11478 (20000) Hit Points to you. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 1039 (4362) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 6796 (22687) Arcane Damage to you with Oppressive Force. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 1079 (4490) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] "CW" deals 717 (2091) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 1276 (4852) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" deals 6985 (20446) Lightning Damage to you with Storm Spell. [Combat (Self)] Your Cold Shoulder absorbs 1394 damage from "CW" Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! "CW" gives 0 (3935) Cold Damage to you with Ray of Frost. [Combat (Self)] "CW" Shield absorbs 1960 damage from your Bull Charge. [Combat (Self)] "CW" Shield absorbs 27 damage from your Bronzewood Weapon. [Combat (Self)] "CW" Shield absorbs 401 damage from your Aura of Courage. [Combat (Self)] Your Bull Charge deals 3641 (10943) Physical Damage to "CW"




    Against such DPS +3% stats,that's the difference between blue and purple pvp gear,it would made little difference.No GF /GWF can sustain such insane DPS for long(green) ,while CW at the same time has 80% + mitigation.(red underline)
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    teribad15 wrote: »
    but rayrdan is right GF is able to do that high dmg u can ask Lothor from 7k gs scrubs for 1v1 you ill probly get 1-2 shoted atm hes able to do 90-100k anvils on my 110k HP GWF or 120k hp GF while im at 50-60% hp

    I don't believe your 100k Anvil at at 50 - 60% HP.

    Please go back and read my extensive response to the first video posted.

    Lothor runs a very specific build and plays it to maximise damage. I know, because he has killed my Tactician numerous times and I know exactly what he is doing. He turtles at the start of the fight, lets you hit him to build his Reckless Attacker stacks, probably has Combat Superiority slotted so he is getting 10 - 15% more damage buff, then he pops Into the Fray for another extensive damage buff, then he Bull Charges you to trigger the Crushing Pin 10% damage buff. If you are below 40% health after that, Anvil of Doom is going to blow you to pieces.

    The GF IS NOT a class that does huge damage down all 3 paths and has its potential unlocked as soon as you hit 60/70. It requires a specific build and play style to do what Lothor can do.

    EOA's top GF currently has a roughly 2:1 K/D ratio while their CWs are melting stuff. 7k GS's second GF was very killable in my last match against him and in a 1v1 we were about even at 40 - 60 HP before my idiot team ganked him, and I am a Tactician.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    I did not choose KE feat because of the bug so this will have no effect on me. I did switch to a sab since they wrecked scoundrel and exe but I play a WK so no SE and no ITC -- yet I am not spared the insults of having every single capstone and feat and paragon ability.

    It's funny to see how the turds tend to stick to their propaganda and stereotyping even after the balancing happens -- which, for the record, us TRs ourselves have suggested first, more than anyone else, ain't it?

    Wait, did I say turds? I meant tards. :rolleyes:
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  • k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    clonkyo1 wrote: »
    Question is, on which mod was never about CW class at all??? after 6 mods yet, still, an OP class.

    correct all time favorite CW I will not make one cookie cutter just to feel pro. CW have it all king of the hill pvp and pve
    No, not really. But I still think it is a brainless play style that will just maintain the levels of hate directed at the class.

    Trs are just being resourceful because they arent like cookie cutter CW and yes TR will spread hate for playing tricks on you haters?
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    clonkyo1 wrote: »
    I do due i do it time to time. The trick here is, while being Conq + Combat Superiority + stacks, Mark target and then, use KC on them. On crit damage (with G. vorpal) i can deal around 40k damage vs blue geared and full HP targets. With this Setup, my Crescendo can deal up to 100k damage in total. (Again, time to time, not "always")

    But, again, this is about "Knife's Edge" fix, so... this kind of stuff should be left out. :P

    Well you further reinforced my argument. . .Specific build and play style with all your passives, feats and boons syncing up. An unbuffed Anvil of Doom against a healthy target is nothing special.

    My Tactician cannot do that and nor can a Protector.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
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