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75% return on what i bought and also played for come mod6??? SERIOUSLY!
sharky445
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I feel that a 75% return on the time and money invested on this game because you decided to make new items is theft. People only live once and only have so much money and I feel for example I paid and exchanged my time and effort for the ad to also buy them that way a waste.I earned for refining stones to rank up your soon to be raising the level and making new artifact weapons and now u give me a 75% return??? Shouldnt that be a 100%??? Robbed I feel once mod 6 comes out then if u insist on doing this. Post if u feel robbed also.
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Well hate to be the one to break it to you, that blog is an outright lie, the actually return of RP is actually only 40%, the 75% comes from the fact that a lvl 60 artifact Will bring the new ones to lvl 48(aka 75% of the way) but doesnt Account for that the last 12 lvls Will require a lot more RP than the first 48 combined...
The players are watching, Cryptic. Bad decisions along these lines have really thinned out the playerbase. Making the right choice here could restore some of that lost good will.
You're not paying for something to get a "return" on it. This isn't the stock market or a 401k.
Every dollar you put into Neverwinter is for entertainment purposes only. You're only paying for access to the content, not actually buying anything. And even then, what you paid money for was Zen, not an item. Artifacts, equipment, enchantments, etc. have no monetary value.
If you want to get a "return on your investment", buy stocks or start a 401k...or even a savings account. Don't spend it on video games.
What? The content is free. Buying zen allows you to enhance that content with better quality items. The notion that you're just buying zen and not items is missing the forest for the trees. Who buys zen just to have zen and not use it?
So you can't say that your current artifact weapon is worth $X but you lost $Y because of the new one. From a legal standpoint, at least. You got exactly what you paid for. There was no contract, nor guarantee of anything sort of value or return on said value.
Theft, lol. If it is theft, how come you still have the item and RP you paid for? OK, so there is a new weapon coming. That is entirely not relevant to your previous buying choices. When Ford introduce a new car model they'll let you use your current car as part-payment but you won't get back the amount you paid for it.
And, yeah, 40% unless you can wait for a double RP event.
BTW. None of this is real....
It is real if you spent MONEY! Not including peoples time is MONEY!
Just because someone has the right to do anything shouldnt mean do it WRONG!
Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.
New equipment is going to come and go. Don't ever "buy" anything if you can't deal with it eventually being obsolete. Just because you paid "real money" for something doesn't mean it's always going to be the best, especially when it comes to equipment.
And again, Crytpic or PWE never sold you a Legendary Artifact. You purchased Zen, and then used that in game on whatever you wanted.
Time is money. People invested at a minimum lots of time to upgrade the current equipment artifacts. Only getting 40% of that time back to an (essentially) forced upgrade is a real slap.
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I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Neverwinter is a money grab, plain and simple. If you look at every single aspect of this game, it is designed to make you want to spend your money. It feels like it wasn't always this way, and it certainly wasn't this way when I started. However. Look deep at reasons for why anything in this game exists, and you can see dollar signs.
A few examples in case you missed them:
artifact gear
enchantments
pets that need a million ad to upgrade
ridiculously low drop rates on essential boon items
are any of these things there for the purpose of enjoyment? No. They exist because they want your money. And the thing is, neverwinter would make great money if they only offered things like epic mounts and fashion and transmutes for real money. They would easily get most people who play to pay about the same as what you'd pay for a console game. Why do they need more? It's certainly not because they are putting out fresh new content very often. It's certainly not to help them fix currently disgusting instances like tiamat. Go back to playing a console game for a while. You'll see even more plainly how much Neverwinter wants your cash.
If they cared about their players, they would listen and implement changes that would make us happy. Let our artifacts gain experience with us, for example. Implement things in the zen store that would be fun to purchase, rather than monetizing every aspect of the game. It would be easy to fix Neverwinter and make it one of the best online games available. They have the mechanics of such a great experience. But they are ruining it with greed.
HEY ********. You seem to forget the example- level 48 is still PURPLE TIER. The new purple-tier artifact weapons are a solid upgrade to the orange-tier ones right now- stats wise and likely ability boost wise. You aren't "LOSING MONEYZ BEING FORCED 2 UPGRADE OMG", you're being GIVEN more power than the previous artifact had for free- and you now have space to expand again. WTF is with this thread? Do you people THINK? EVER?
You have already had use of your Golden Dragon mainhand, and if you never want to drop another peridot/piece of gear in it, don't -- it's still useable. And since you have gotten use from it, it's not shocking that you will not get full value for trading it in, just like when buying a new car.
However, you will get the new Elemental Fire mainhand for free, and dropping your mainhand into it will instantly increase your stats and weapon damage from the old mainhand. You will have to pay the upgrade costs, but green -->blue is essentially free, as is purple --> orange f you visit DR lairs regularly, so that leaves you 3 blue marks (about 10k AD in AH now) plus some preservation wards.
If you stop right there and never refine again, the new mainhand is better than your old one -- for ~10k AD! But continue to throw in gear drops and RP - which we will have more ways to get in Mod 6 -- and that main hand gets even better!
So you pay me 20000 € for my 1993 Volvo? Sweet. PM me and I'll give you my address...
OK, practical working life of the current BiS gear was very short. Almost completely eaten up by just getting and upgrading it. And this with doing the selfsame bossfight over and over again :^/
...well, last time (Remember? long ago when Mod 4 hit us) we got all but nothing for our then-BiS gear, which also had cost some farming, getting weaponsmithing up to lvl 20,...
I don't like the low return, but 40% is way better than the 1300 RP last time. Or maybe 80% if you have the patience and the storage space...
Sure PWE/Cryptic could make changes to make more people happy and they are trying to do that. We all know you cant please everyone. I agree with this issue of a 40% return but also agree that cryptic has been doing things right thus far and hopefully they rethink this issue.
That's crazy. This is a game. A leisure activity. Something you do for fun. Not a job.
If you're not having fun, what's the point? And if you're taking this so seriously that you feel like you got slapped in the face...might I recommend a new hobby?
Before Mod 6, all patches brought new and better, or significantly different gear. You old BiS gear wasn't necessarily BiS anymore, more often than not. And you old gear fetched 10k AD at the salvager. End of story, nobody complained.
And getting the stuff had been strenuous and time consuming, too. It could take several dozen VT or MC runs to get that offhand, e.g. or your last piece of set armour.
Now you actually get quite a bit of your old scrap metal's power transferred to your new shiney, which also is quite a lot more power gain than we've seen ever before, and everybody screams bloody murder with that attitude of rightful entitlement. Meh...