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Module 6! Will Guardian Fighters die off?
isaintify1
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I can see a huge decline in Guardian Fighters when Module 6 comes out. Does this mean the end of the GF's?! Probably not at all, however I know that people who do not have a Guardian Fighter as a Main are more likely to make a Paladin now than a Guardian Fighter. What are other peoples opinion on this?
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Would you choose the OP class (Oathbound Paladin) or GF (Goofy Fighter)?
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Pretty much this. For me, certainly, but also for a lot of people. Thread title is silly. People (new-comers to the game) who love melee are still going to pick the GF, GWF, and some may go OP. The difference comes down to the theme of the class. Since everyone gets three character slots (two for signing-up and the third if they buy $5 worth of Zen) I can see melee-lovers taking all three. Existing players will create one because SHINY-NEW and no other reason. Hell I had wished for a Warlock at Beta, when they finally released it: meh. I like Wizard better than Warlock (and in table-top I feel vice-versa).
But the short version of my comment: No. GF will always be GF, anything that happens to it won't be because of OP by much if at all.
not so for me. my first choice was a mace wielding cleric.. but it was not offered. my second choice was the standard 'square headed sword swinger' (quoted from some barely remembered article in Dragon Mag way back when) which would fall somewhere between GF and GWF, but is neither. i reckon with the paladin I will get closer to both of those things than what I currently have. So I am actually looking forward to it, in a biggish way. But I still love my GFs as well as my other chars. I put a lot into each of them, and will not be setting them aside.
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Responding to the OP of OP are OP threads will be fun.
For tanking, I doubt the OBP would be better than the GF because keep in mind that the GF has inherent tanking bonuses such as 200% increased threat gain as compared to other classes, as well as an encounter that hard taunts 20 enemies all at once. While we still do not know how the OBP would play as a defender, it's easy to foresee the OBP playing more like a GWF... that's like a Cleric, with a tiny bit of GF. IDK, or at least that's how I'm envisioning the OBP would be knowing the 4e Paladin.
but can be hard take him into pve group content, paladin will shine for sure, can be much more usefull there. try him no doubt
I think what will happen is players will look to have both GFs and OPs in their parties and looks like (from the PnP Data) they compliment each other very well. If anything, OPs will take the place of a Devoted Cleric in content that doesn't need the full healing support of a DC.
Oathbound: The Paladin Guide
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sooo .. we need a tank class for one game focus in dps for? if GF was dont die now ... is zombie! =D
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True lol, but then again the GF has to 'die' before they roll the Paladin
PS: Looks like Im missing something. When was the Pala confirmed as incoming ?
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Just today. In the mod6 announcement.
He's a shorter, fatter version of myself. He had the same confused expression on this face while repeatedly dying in PvP earlier today.
With all that said, I will create a paladin class, but my main will always be my GF. He is like the quiet, unwanted family member who just sits and waits. Eventually, he is wanted (eLoL), and sometimes op (right after mod 4...reflect/SoS AP gain in PvP...before nerf), but always understated. Go GFs!
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umm, in the presentation they said that OP is going to be a tank/healer...:
" These righteous fighters will be able embody both the healing and tanking paradigms that have made them so popular with Dungeons & Dragons players everywhere."
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Yeah to me that is sad. Paladins should be DPS-Healer/Blessers. With Vorpal Holy Avenger swords, and a summoned mount that fights for them if they fall. Not tanks. At all. Just my opinion based on our own games back when.
and really though paladin being a tank is probably gonna be kinda like being a gwf sentinel trying to hold aggro against a whole room of 40 mobs it works for about a second and then it doesnt. The difference is that a paladin can heal and not just himself and i seriously doubt they will be able to take half damage for everyone around them like the gf can either. it will also likely have protection spells that make it "like" a tank.
definitely shouldnt just be heal/tank though needs to have power as well.
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Rgr that. Caster support sounds ok, but they should do a fair bit of SMITING, too.
“I had an eleventh-level paladin (it took me years to advance those levels) whom I took on Expedition, and he got the Power Armor, which was the big thing to get in that module. But he also went a little power mad. On the next campaign we saw merchant caravans crossing the desert, and my character flew down and landed next to a merchant and tore off the guy's head.
The DM informed me that I was not a paladin anymore.
I said, "Oh, ****, I forgot. I'm lawful good!"
DM: "Yeah, and the gods are angry. So you're not a paladin anymore. You can start again as anything you want, but that character's done."
Eventually, we started to judge each other based on how our characters behaved. One DM seemed to believe we were too greedy. We wanted too much. We wanted our characters to be too strong. But, you know, within the culture of high school we were the weak puppies and were looking for power, albeit imagined. Well this one DM, Haskell, started using his dungeon mastering as a critique of that. He would tempt us with ways to get seemingly unlimited power (say, a poison with no saving throw) and then throw huge roadblocks in the way to keep us from achieving it. I may remembering wrong, but I think by the end we were using the game to express how we felt about each other.”
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Er, I wanted a Druid class anyway…..
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otherwise not interested ;p