Why is the offhands that DROPS from tiamat bound? Whats the point of contribute after I get it? (I dont want or need the orb artifact) It says BoE when you watch the III rank info.
That's actually a very valid point. Once everyone has their gear, will everyone else have a harder time getting their stuff because the more dedicated don't need to bother with contributing. There is the artifact still of course, but...
Don't forget contributing gives Favours. People need 80 Favours for the Boons.
So I think people will have a reason to contribute for a while yet
Quite a few people can't face the Tiamat grind for those, and will stop either at offhand, or offhand and cloak (if they want one of the ones that is still pricey to buy). That will make life harder for people still seeking their offhands.
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bajornorbertMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 272Arc User
Don't forget contributing gives Favours. People need 80 Favours for the Boons.
So I think people will have a reason to contribute for a while yet
I've already grinded out enough Linu's for the DT set for my DC, i'm currently working on getting the off-hand for it, then i'll get the off-hand for my CW and maybe for my SW and/or GF, but only if i'm really bored and have nothing else to do, then never set foot in ToT again.
I'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who thinks that 80 Linu's / toon is way too much. If i would like to have all of the boons on my 4 "mains" i'd need 320 Linu's.
The 6th and 7th boons are not even worth it, maybe if you could choose 3x 1/3, but even then farming 320 Linu's with randoms is a real pain. I know we'll have a GG style queue next week, but that's still not the same as doing ToT with a full premade, and tbh even now it is possible to have 5-10 ppl on the same instance if you coordinate so nothing will really change.
I've already grinded out enough Linu's for the DT set for my DC, i'm currently working on getting the off-hand for it, then i'll get the off-hand for my CW and maybe for my SW and/or GF, but only if i'm really bored and have nothing else to do, then never set foot in ToT again.
I'm pretty i'm not the only one who thinks that 80 Linu's / toon is way too much. If i would like to have all of the boons on my 4 "mains" i'd need 320 Linu's.
The 6th and 7th boons are not even worth it, maybe if you could choose 3x 1/3, but even then farming 320 Linu's with randoms is a real pain. I know we'll have a GG style queue next week, but that's still not the same as doing ToT with a full premade, and tbh even now it is possible to have 5-10 ppl on the same instance if you coordinate so nothing will really change.
Is that new set actually any good for a DC? I think it's wasted favors.
There is no better set than prophet.
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bajornorbertMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 272Arc User
Is that new set actually any good for a DC? I think it's wasted favors.
There is no better set than prophet.
It is actually better than the HP set. In PvE 30% defense reduction (3 stacks of HP) is 6% more damage, the 5% DR debuff from the DT set is 5% more damage, and as an added bonus it's passive. So unless you're one of those DC's that lags behind the team, the DT set will provide on average a higher damage boost than HP to the party since it doesn't need stacking, you only need to be in the vicinity.
It is actually better than the HP set. In PvE 30% defense reduction (3 stacks of HP) is 6% more damage, the 5% DR debuff from the DT set is 5% more damage, and as an added bonus it's passive. So unless you're one of those DC's that lags behind the team, the DT set will provide on average a higher damage boost than HP to the party since it doesn't need stacking, you only need to be in the vicinity.
Are you sure about that? The CW HV set actually gives you 30% DPS. IIRC HP is the same.
I've already grinded out enough Linu's for the DT set for my DC, i'm currently working on getting the off-hand for it, then i'll get the off-hand for my CW and maybe for my SW and/or GF, but only if i'm really bored and have nothing else to do, then never set foot in ToT again.
I'm pretty i'm not the only one who thinks that 80 Linu's / toon is way too much. If i would like to have all of the boons on my 4 "mains" i'd need 320 Linu's.
The 6th and 7th boons are not even worth it, maybe if you could choose 3x 1/3, but even then farming 320 Linu's with randoms is a real pain. I know we'll have a GG style queue next week, but that's still not the same as doing ToT with a full premade, and tbh even now it is possible to have 5-10 ppl on the same instance if you coordinate so nothing will really change.
I am not sure if the new que system will work very well because we will still play with 20 strangers.
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aulduronMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,351Arc User
edited December 2014
I have a cloak and off hand and I've given up trying to get the last boons because the drop rate on the first two books is ridiculous.
I may eventually get my alts off hands, after refining their weapons and belts, but I'm certainly not going to contribute ever again. What a waste.
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bajornorbertMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 272Arc User
Are you sure about that? The CW HV set actually gives you 30% DPS. IIRC HP is the same.
CW set is -450 defense / stack, the HP set is -10% defense / stack and mobs have 0 defense in PvE, all they have is AC. There was a post back in the days, by a dev, that explained the difference between Mitigation (Damage Reduction) and Defense debuffs. HP set works in the same way as PF and Terror does, it decreases defense by x%, and 5% defense reduction is about the same as 1% DR/Mitigation reduction, which is 1% more damage.
I am not sure if the new que system will work very well because we will still play with 20 strangers.
That's exactly what i've said too. The "new" queue system will change nothing, it might even make things worse, since atm you can get more than 5 ppl in the same instance if you coordinate, so if sync-queuing doesn't work, it will actually make things worse.
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So I think people will have a reason to contribute for a while yet
Quite a few people can't face the Tiamat grind for those, and will stop either at offhand, or offhand and cloak (if they want one of the ones that is still pricey to buy). That will make life harder for people still seeking their offhands.
I've already grinded out enough Linu's for the DT set for my DC, i'm currently working on getting the off-hand for it, then i'll get the off-hand for my CW and maybe for my SW and/or GF, but only if i'm really bored and have nothing else to do, then never set foot in ToT again.
I'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who thinks that 80 Linu's / toon is way too much. If i would like to have all of the boons on my 4 "mains" i'd need 320 Linu's.
The 6th and 7th boons are not even worth it, maybe if you could choose 3x 1/3, but even then farming 320 Linu's with randoms is a real pain. I know we'll have a GG style queue next week, but that's still not the same as doing ToT with a full premade, and tbh even now it is possible to have 5-10 ppl on the same instance if you coordinate so nothing will really change.
Is that new set actually any good for a DC? I think it's wasted favors.
There is no better set than prophet.
It is actually better than the HP set. In PvE 30% defense reduction (3 stacks of HP) is 6% more damage, the 5% DR debuff from the DT set is 5% more damage, and as an added bonus it's passive. So unless you're one of those DC's that lags behind the team, the DT set will provide on average a higher damage boost than HP to the party since it doesn't need stacking, you only need to be in the vicinity.
Are you sure about that? The CW HV set actually gives you 30% DPS. IIRC HP is the same.
I am not sure if the new que system will work very well because we will still play with 20 strangers.
I may eventually get my alts off hands, after refining their weapons and belts, but I'm certainly not going to contribute ever again. What a waste.
CW set is -450 defense / stack, the HP set is -10% defense / stack and mobs have 0 defense in PvE, all they have is AC. There was a post back in the days, by a dev, that explained the difference between Mitigation (Damage Reduction) and Defense debuffs. HP set works in the same way as PF and Terror does, it decreases defense by x%, and 5% defense reduction is about the same as 1% DR/Mitigation reduction, which is 1% more damage.
That's exactly what i've said too. The "new" queue system will change nothing, it might even make things worse, since atm you can get more than 5 ppl in the same instance if you coordinate, so if sync-queuing doesn't work, it will actually make things worse.