Retiring from PVP

tarftgm

I suggest everyone do the same.

It's not even about class balance, it's the community, it's way too TOXIC.

No, I'm not an undergeared scrub, I have multiple legendaries, but this community is getting out of hand.

1) people bullying their own team mates

2) people kicking to preserve their poverty leaderboard rank

3) leaderboard

4) people t-bagging (jumping over dead body) when killing people half their gear

5) no honor

6) etc etc.



So what is there to do now? PVE? Foundry? Dailies?

I've been religiously PVPing since beta, so someone aware me on what to do other than PVP.

This is a serious thread.

tarftgm

I would also like to add that PVE players frequenting this forum were right.

I was in denial, I kept defending them, but PVP players are what's killing this game, no kidding.

vinceent1

i understand, i stopped arena domination at the end of mod3, since then i play Gauntlgrym PVP twice a day only. may be zergish from time to time but overall much more balanced and fair. has speed that pretend toxic behaviour

burkaanc

they need to change pvp queue system, either make room system so u can make teams, or allow 5v5 queues so you can do the same with chat smth like /legit, this pvp system is boring, its no fun stomping or getting stomped

+MOAR MAPS&MODES PLX!!!!11!one

rashylewizz

Meh, not really anything to do in PVE. Dailies, dailes and more dailies. How about dungeons that don't give any loot?

You could probably join the zergfest going around the dragons.

Most PVP players used to be the best PVE players who have retired from PVE because of those problems. Interesting to see it go the other way around in this instance (not that I'm calling you one of the top PVP players since having full legendaries doesn't mean much)

f2pma

you a right
i was watching yesterday brollax stream and was amazed how people from the same team talk to each other.
the way they can play together and put up with so much insults is beyond me.
sure i talked HAMSTER to enemy, raged a bit, grind my teeth lol but i never ever insulted my team mates
i just know they did their best and most important off all its just a GAME.
one thing that was most suprising that they have very low knowlege off pvp
they cant seem to comprehand that other team has better comp
or better player at some point or combined
and in the end that fun game i watched turned in to a 20 min abuse after the match lol

i play this game for fun
i can take good advice but i would not tolerate criticism 0,1 sec in f game lol
how low can one go .

ta ta

rashylewizz

f2pma wrote: »

i play this game for fun
i can take good advice but i would not tolerate criticism 0,1 sec in f game lol
how low can one go .

ta ta

I reckon you never did any form of high end PVE dungeons when this game was recently released then?

You'd getting a lecturing from people then

hoofit

AT level 60 Pvp is a big part of that it needs balance and reworking in my opinion, new maps, gears score matched matches as well as a rework of certain classes to balance them in line with others.
I agree some people in pvp can be very rude, I'm not talking about the fun taunting that's goes on but the pms you get from angry players. I got one the other week from an angry member of the other team (who didn't like it that I killed him so much being a lower level char to him) he started with "what's it like to be so fat" and then went on to tell me my wife is cheating on me and it would have been better if I had never had kids la la la obviously trying to wind me up and troll he failed, other pms are worse I cant repeat them here, I felt sorry for him obviously a kid with deep seated issues.
@vinceent1 GG is the most unbalanced pvp I find due to the high amount of 20K + players on a certain side and with new changes to certain classes it just adds to the problem.

tickdoff

tarftgm wrote: »

I suggest everyone do the same.

It's not even about class balance, it's the community, it's way too TOXIC.

No, I'm not an undergeared scrub, I have multiple legendaries, but this community is getting out of hand.

1) people bullying their own team mates

2) people kicking to preserve their poverty leaderboard rank

3) leaderboard

4) people t-bagging (jumping over dead body) when killing people half their gear

5) no honor

6) etc etc.



So what is there to do now? PVE? Foundry? Dailies?

I've been religiously PVPing since beta, so someone aware me on what to do other than PVP.

This is a serious thread.

You described the usual behavior of PvPers in every MMO. All of them. Why should Neverwinter be different?

rashylewizz

tickdoff wrote: »

You described the usual behavior of PvPers in every MMO. All of them. Why should Neverwinter be different?

He probably hasn't played League of Legends or the more popular multiplayer games.

burkaanc

LoL probably has the most toxic community ive played in, at least ranked

kweassa

Compared to some other games, NW PvP players -- despite all their problems -- are actually mild.

I feel sympathetic to the op and what he wrote, but I gotta ask -- which MMOG have you guys every played did not have fiery, ill-tempered, rude, tantrum throwing, forum whining, QQ-driven people in PvP?

PvP is all about egos. Its to be expected. Anyone who thinks competitive games should be more 'polite', would probably be shocked at the amount of bickering, cussing, and dissing that happens in real-life athletes.

tarftgm

kweassa wrote: »

Compared to some other games, NW PvP players -- despite all their problems -- are actually mild.

I feel sympathetic to the op and what he wrote, but I gotta ask -- which MMOG have you guys every played did not have fiery, ill-tempered, rude, tantrum throwing, forum whining, QQ-driven people in PvP?

PvP is all about egos. Its to be expected. Anyone who thinks competitive games should be more 'polite', would probably be shocked at the amount of bickering, cussing, and dissing that happens in real-life athletes.

I'm an FPS man.

When I started NW in beta it was my first MMO, and still is the only one.

The flaming in FPS is funny and all, but this is just revolting lol.

zebular

I'm sorry but the forums are not the place to discuss bad behavior and definitely not the place to insult or demean any other player, directly or indirectly. As others have stated, this mentality among the PvP Communities in MMOs is nothing new and while there are many who compliment what was said in the OP, is not true for all of them. Lumping all players of a particular playstyle together and then ridiculing them, will not be tolerated.

Furthermore, any type of "I Quit" remarks are not allowed. There are much better ways to ask what else there is to do besides stepping into the realm of such comments, which only serve to bring ridicule and shame from other posters, as history has shown.

Safe travels,
Archmage Zebular of Mystryl
PWE Community Moderator