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thedemien
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Just wanted to share this pic
NEW UPDATED UPTODATE PIC
old pic - mod 4 start i belive
As we all know PvP is way more important on Russian server. This might be a good point for all Class Unbalance talk we have here. L2P is the best advice still.
Thanks for @evildru
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?786791-PvP-Turnament for giving head up.
and to @mehguy138 for sharing updated pic.
NEW UPDATED UPTODATE PIC
old pic - mod 4 start i belive
As we all know PvP is way more important on Russian server. This might be a good point for all Class Unbalance talk we have here. L2P is the best advice still.
Thanks for @evildru
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?786791-PvP-Turnament for giving head up.
and to @mehguy138 for sharing updated pic.
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yeah. after looking closely and digging into Russian forum I can agree with you -looks like mod 4 start. August 18th accurate picture.
I hope this wont be the picture for mod 5. People are actually saying that top pvp classes are
1.2 . combat HR/ CW
3. GWF in tank build
I just quoting top pvp players from there)
The TR and Combat HR will probably rule supreme in Mod 5 at least for a while. I am curious to see the buffed DCs though
The funniest part about all of this, they claim its alot of work, but we all know thats not true.
PVPers dont care about lore, or how the map fits in... we dont care about the details... You can go into Foundry(which is a "dumbed down" tool from what the DEVs have) and create a map within a few hours let alone if 1 DEV was able to give a couple days for 1-2 more maps. It really wouldnt take much.
"has to go through QC?" Bull. Throw it up on PTR for a month before it goes live. Well find ALL the glitches, issues with the map. Itll take no time to fix....
"requires time to make it a balanced map?" BULL. Create a map, then mirror it so its the same on both sides.
We DONT need it to be ultra creative. DONT need lore to go with it. DOESNT need to be an insane creative, genius map, just take a chipset (Dread Ring, Sharandar, etc) heck you can EVEN RECYCLE EXISTING MAPS.
Take PART of the DreadRing map, turn it into a pvp map.
take PART of Sharandar, turn it into PVP map. Dont re-invent the wheel.
So true. And devs themself stated that
1 pvp is only hard endgame content. And it will be so.
2 All rest will be casual.
3 They are looking for PVP advocates for classes. Not just advocates as here
Yet we see that since pvp is more important on russian server ( I read brings more money and people) - they have championships. We have excuses.
But i do belive this is off-topic for this thread a bit.
I asked the guy who posted pick before. Will try to dig into forum more.
http://nw-forum.ru.perfectworld.eu/showthread.php?t=
Broken link. I Asked here for update http://nw-forum.ru.perfectworld.eu/showthread.php?t=66602&page=96&p=1598242#post1598242
TY very much. Updated origal post with it. Don't think guilds matter to Mods. I do belive guild are same, are not they?
Looks like after the "Attack of the Control Wizard", "The Hunter Ranger Strikes Back" happened.
Well I guess picture was same as mod 4 start. CW here also raised thier heads up on broken mechanics and feets. Then cry and nerf wave came. Only decent remained. While or Russian we can see that 1st places is shared by CWs and HRs.
Hope this will give some thought to people who always complain about balance. Ty to mods for clearing the topic. Not the place.
PS. now I kinda want to picture all mod 5 leaderboard ) Especially if they reset it again.
What a smart idea!
nerf HR?!!
By far.
In our server CWs cannot play their OP class and cry all the time asking for buffs
you can say russian pvp players more skilled
cause they have regular premades and tournaments
here in our sever its just maxed out peeps pugstomping or doing troll-comps
No middleground for CW, and not a lot of skill to show off, unlike the good old SHARD days.
Bring SHARD back, so we can finally remove the wannabe "PvP CWs" from our community.
but...but...but... don't you want to grow your PVP community?
guess not
Not really. Same classes. 11 CW and 8 HRs on first page.
No Magic lol. Just mages. Different level of skills.
Other thing is that general server population there is lower. And people come just for pvp. PE is boring and nobody spends time for it. If you can just read the forum there.
Plus leader board in general is still weird calculation. You can go down if you win(!) on team that has lower ranking that your team. That is basically why only premades are on top of both servers. You will get better rating in leader board if you win somebody who is higher than your team - leads to best of best kinda.
About what servers is better. I may disagree with you. They do show way more team-play then even general premades here. Just open random video of premades here for EOG or Synergy and there - Bad company as example. Also assume that videos are not always on.
Edit: some history thoughts
Here mages population is huge. we all know that CW are used to dominate in pve heavily and mod 1 and mod 2/3 grinding of T2 and CN produced huge amount AD. By general dungeon design favored stacking CW. Mod 3/4 on other side did not introduced any really good challenging PVE content and even devs stated that only hardcore content in game is pvp. So all this CWs started to cry for pvp equality - witch is not bad. But while all other classes developed pvp guides and skills only small population of CW was in pvp in mod 1/3.
Mod 4 brought Epics where stacking CW does not benefit more then stacking GWF or HRs. CWs rushed into mod 4 this broken skills to occupy what they think is their place- eg same as pve -kings. So one more nerf wave begun.
Russian server on other side was introduced in mod 3 time. So they generally had less need for CW stacks. Also this goes good on general MMO games there- only pvp and only hardcore is respect. While here casual players want easy 1 hour stuff and be OP.
Nah. Dragon Server HR just more skilled
I d say this - russian servers shows more real balance in pvp then this - on forum threads and so on. Also there is way more guild vs guild fights and premades on premades. Plus some people show "grace" as -
if too low pug - give like 50% of point first and so on. Not that this is rear here - one GWF with 5k+ GS than one on my alt just helped me go executions task in campain on him. Died 5 times. For nothing. His team could win anyway and get more kills if they wanted. Plus on that server back in the day there was way more "ugly" people too and probably is now still.
Just reading the forum on mod 4 pvp situation I saw a lot of ranking like CWs are good, combat HRs are good, GWF (suprise for me) are good.. This are most classes people are cautions about. I also had seen way less stuff like
This is just to show real people reasons on balance. lol. Pure hate and domination. )))