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White Dragonwing unstoppable spin attack
prettycelt
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Is it deliberate that the White Dragonwing has a spinning, freezing attack that can't be stopped, can't be blocked and basically means you have to run or get hit and/or freeze? I am CW and it doesn't matter what I hit him with when he goes into this attack, nothing stops him or slows him down. It's ridiculous.
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He's CC immune right as the red area appears from what I can tell, so no chance to stop it (I might be wrong, but never purposely tried it).
There should be many more cc immune mobs like this. It makes things a bit more interesting.
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That's partly correct. But normal GWFs don't freeze, don't have CC-immunity while casting it and sometimes can be interrupted while at the beginning of spinning! So what I see as GWF is the perfect attack, far away from our <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> daily...
You cant stop a GWF while he's doing it, its the exact same here, except this one shoots freeze balls while doing so.
The warm-up as you begin to spin (when your character waves his arm in an arc in front of himself) can be interrupted. Once already spinning though? Nay, that cannot be interrupted. It's the same power that the spinning redcaps use, just without the chill, and you can interrupt them during the red circle - just not once they're already spinning. Being unable to interrupt these Cultists has to be a bug.
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Sounds painful.
Hope he doesn't put them in direct contact with anything metal .
I am enjoying ghost stories solo too...
My problem with him is, that again a Mob do a way better job as a Class's daily!
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That pet and it's active has a history of being glitchy and ignoring cc immunity. I don't want to give examples because I'm not sure if they were properly fixed but it does bad things that trivialize some content.
That said, I like the white dragonknight gwfs. I wish we had more mobs like that, where they are dangerous and you don't want to just face tank them. We need more like this and even more complicated harder ones than this. Practice on them learn how to dodge them, don't rely on being overgeared or exploits to beat harder challenges.
These guys are us. The devs are having a laugh! XD
Ya got some of the classes represented who all just seem to do the most annoying things about the class (when you are on the receiving end.) When the GF guy blocks, you just hit him from behind, like you do the Commander in Dread Spire. Then he drops shields and he's a soft target. You need to stop the GWF from getting into his spin, or you have to stay out of his space and cook him.
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OOooooooohhhhhh next batch of new mobs they make, they need to make a permastealth mob. Give it DF, SS, B&S, CoS, ITC the works. That would be an awesome mob to fight.
B&S would be particularly infuriating. LOL! I hope they do it.. =D
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Only thing better is if they gave the monsters more than one significant ability. ( the Green Dragonwings already have two. The grasping roots area and the aimed shot rainbow laser).
..Where you have to watch what they are doing and figure out what to do about it.
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Oh, how I hate him. He is the first mob I look for and he gets the Constricting Arrow right off the bat with Thorn Ward between me and him. Once he gets close, he gets Rain of Arrows right on his head.
And if that isn't enough to finish him off, BAM! goes the Seismic Shot hammer.
I truly hate him.
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Your hate is a sign of a well designed enemy. Having every enemy be one isn't good design but scattering them in a dungeon is great.
They are 100% pure awesome with this, and I don't think it's a bug, On a ranged class they see you move towards you a bit, and then start, melee class they see you and you've already moved up next to them so it looks like it's starting faster.
The green "ranger" types are a particular pain, and IMO a bit worse even than the annoying white GWF's. If there are two of these greens in a group, their snare stacks, effectively rooting you for what seems like an eternity. Meanwhile, between the damage from the rest of the group and the poison DoT that's part of the snare/root, I've been melted in the blink of an eye more times than I can count. I realize these are supposed to be dangerous encounters, but I seriously wonder if they were truly meant to be that brutally efficient, especially for solo players.
I suspect the stacking snare may be a bug, and particularly for warlocks whose Shadow Slip is supposed to be able to get them out of CC situations (for the record, it does not, at least in this example.) The tooltip for Shadow Slip says, in part, "You ignore control effects while shifted."
Will /danceseductive for ZEN. :cool:
When they're behaving "properly", I don't find the new mobs particularly problematic. It's when they exhibit behavior that doesn't quite pass the sniff test that causes folks to come here with their findings. I don't find it particularly challenging to be stun-locked and have a pool of around 23K hit points melt away in a matter of a couple seconds. That "smells" broken to me, and to enough other people. If it's working-as-intended, then so be it. Adapt and overcome, and all that. But if someone doesn't report it, it has a greatly diminished chance of being discovered and, if indeed broken, then fixed.
Will /danceseductive for ZEN. :cool:
I strongly beg to differ:
It is QQing, plan and simple. Yes, if it comes towards you, you either have to burn it before it gets to you or *gasp* move slightly. Melee has to actually sing for their supper and be a little agile- pick your targets and unload with malice aforethought- for once. It's refreshing. Instantly assuming that an enemy can't be trivially facerolled on autopilot, and requires a little repositioning must be a bug seems quite a lot like a whinge to me.
If you get "stun locked" by this mob, then you really must be just standing there staring blankly. This listless repining makes kittens sad. If it gets "fixed" due to lazy people who want to play one-handed, the game will be slightly diminished as a result. Mildly dangerous mobs are a nice change of pace.
Oh, and they're a lot less annoying than those Greenscale Trappers
whinge
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: to complain fretfully : whine
/my pedantry is bigger than yours
Okay, there are several points here:
1. First, you assume too much sir (or madame). I have 8 level 60's, and have actually leveled a number of others to 60 and subsequently deleted them. Each of them is what I consider to be "comfortably kitted-out" with gear...not necessarily top-of-the-line, but not shabby by any stretch. I have not, and do not, listlessly play any of them. I actively play them to the best of my ability. There is no "staring blankly" going on, I assure you.
2. Certain classes have varying degrees of built-in ease-of-use based on their skills and the way they synergize. There are also cases of situational expertise. For example, I personally have less success on the Trickster Rogue when soloing, but excel when in a group (not because I'm being carried, but because I can focus my attention on a single target at a time...TR's are not inherently adept at handling groups of mobs, particularly elites.) Those same cases that may give my TR pause can be handled with aplomb on my CW, HR, or SW who are designed from the ground up to handle groups of mobs.
3. While it was conceded that the White Dragonscales can be annoying, they were the not the target of my original ire. If you read my original reply in its context, I wrote:
The Whites actually can stun-lock you to an extent, particularly if you manage to get hit by two or three of their freezing snowballs in a row (and they apparently stack the timer each time they hit.) However, the real issue are indeed the Greens. If two spawn in a group, and their snares overlap, they can and will root you, abilities such as Shadow Slip notwithstanding. A single snare will slow you down a bit (again, despite certain skills that are supposed to mitigate CC), while two will lock you up solid for upwards of 6-8 seconds. During this time, there is a poison proc on the snare, and the two overlapping procs appear to stack, very rapidly draining your life bar. Taken in conjunction with the damage that is happening in your vicinity, I've literally gone from full health to dead in under 2 seconds with absolutely zero recourse or remedy.
Now if that's the way it's supposed to work, then so noted and accepted. Folks will learn to handle such encounters gingerly. The suspicion among many however is that this may be, at best, overly aggressive and at worst buggy. As active community members, we can dutifully report our impressions and await some sort of confirmation from the developers: it's either WAI or it's not.
Will /danceseductive for ZEN. :cool: