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[Feedback] No Free Respec?

chrisfitnesschrisfitness Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 8 Arc User
edited August 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
Sad to know they did not do a force feat respec or give us any even though they change alot of skill in our class.

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Perfectworld_community: [StrumSlinger] Sorry, no free respec for now.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Free respec =/= forced respec.

    They can't not reset your feats. Powers, boons, etc. you're on your own though.
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  • hudman21hudman21 Member Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Well well Well, Here we go again?

    You cant get zen for 10+ days, they changed all class mechanics in the last 2 mods for all but the DC and TR, and once again you will FORCE us to pay to change our specs to your new design after we have built our characters according to your old design.

    So zis is how zey feed za piggybank?

    I am really hoping they do not do us like they did in the last mod with not giving free respecs. That will cause a stream of forum posts like never before.

    UPDATE: Our feats were reset for GF, HR and CWs. That however doesn't really make a lot of sense if we need to change our path i.e Stormspell to Master of Flame and vise versa. All PWE did was save us AD on feat re-specs but continue to INSIST that we pay to re-spec our characters even after drastic class changes.
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  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    If they have any common sense they will give us a free respec, otherwise as you say forum will be full of complains. Many complains means loosing or making paying customers angry, so if i were at the PR department i would hand out a free respec. Keeping many paying customers and making them a little bit happy is the way to go, while loosing a few dimes on respec tokens is nothing.
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  • tinead51tinead51 Member Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Ah, more bank toons for me then, this company gets worse.

    I'm embarrassed for them...
  • chrisfitnesschrisfitness Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So we might have a free respec

    Updates:

    Update 1 (8:06 AM PDT) Maintenance is progressing as planned, still looking at the same downtime.
    Update 2 (9:00 AM PDT) Maintenance is ongoing. Patch notes have been updated. Also, we are trying to confirm this, but it appears that certain classes will be receiving a free Feat Respec with this update. Stay tuned as we confirm this.
    Update 3 (9:50 AM PDT) cross checking a few things, maintenance could be extended by a bit.

    Source: https://www.facebook.com/NeverWinterGame/posts/808958912477970
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  • letojarred1letojarred1 Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So we might have a free respec

    Updates:

    Update 1 (8:06 AM PDT) Maintenance is progressing as planned, still looking at the same downtime.
    Update 2 (9:00 AM PDT) Maintenance is ongoing. Patch notes have been updated. Also, we are trying to confirm this, but it appears that certain classes will be receiving a free Feat Respec with this update. Stay tuned as we confirm this.
    Update 3 (9:50 AM PDT) cross checking a few things, maintenance could be extended by a bit.

    Source: https://www.facebook.com/NeverWinterGame/posts/808958912477970

    only feat, what a bummer :p
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  • wbfoley100wbfoley100 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The wizards have to get a forced respec due to feats switching places. No other way around it. I would assume GWF, GF, and HR will get the same.
  • alkemist80alkemist80 Member Posts: 957 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I'm hoping they will at least give us free feat reset. Just need to move a few things around. My power tree is fine the way it is, same with boons.
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  • nativejoenativejoe Member Posts: 40
    edited August 2014
    My class (cw) has been completely revamped, my stat allocations and powers + Spec is all wrong.
    As such, My character will be severly handicapped when it comes to dps, and control.

    Please reconsider the lack of a Respec token.

    in the past 2 months I've given you guys 130 dollars, Had my bought keys turn BOP, character completely reworked, I have participated in the Preview server and posted plenty of feed back, and I find it hard to fathom being charged again because of changes, especially when I respecced 2 weeks ago.

    (please Correct me if I am wrong in posting this in addition)
    I feel as if I'm being forced to pay to adapt to the new changes, and I feel like Everyone is in the same boat...and we are all being forced to pay $5 per character.
    I feel that this goes beyond simply Feats.
    My powers have been changed drastically, Thus my build needs to change drastically...
    Cryptic has stated they don't want CW's to be the kings of dps anymore.
    I'm willing to bend to this will and comply, but I don't feel like I should be punished for having previously specced into doing dps over the new Version of gameplay they want to corral me into now.

    I humbly Beg the developers to consider this post and reconsider their stance. if not from a gameplay point of view; a public reputation stand point then.

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    On the Contrary, going oppressor MOF is a really really bad choice because you will Literally use None of the skills there on the mobs because your trying to Tick Shatter. My charisma and intelligence was a great build for hard hitting crits in mod 3, in mod 4 going oppressor its a terrible stat because you will lose so much potential recharge time and control over the wisdom stat. and as far as powers go... I'm wasting points in Shard of endless avalach...3... , I don't have any points into steal time (and its a stample corner stone skill now), And Over all im in a incredibly bad place without a respec token. Spec, Stats, and powers are wasted and completly in the wrong place. In mod 1 and 2 I'm told they gave out respec tokens due to changes. I was just hoping, and still am hoping they can reconsider the decision to not include respec tokens. possibly when they go back to give the dragonborn pack buys their race respec tokens?



    And if your question is then... since your specced into dps why not continue to dps? Because I have no desire to be a Dot spec. I have no desire to try to compete with 4 other dps classes and wear High vizier spec forever. I much rather Buff, control, and do moderate dps and get into some new armor. Seems a whole lot more fun then the current Dot dps spec...which seems... idk.. soul less? it lacks the "impact", and waiting for hit or miss procs to do everything just seems conceptually wrong.


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  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    You had all your feats respec'd, which represent a majority of the changes. With all the power points you've been given, it's unlikely that you don't have access to nearly any powers, and there was nothing done that would dramatically alter how you'd use your ability points in Module 3 versus 4.
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  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I hate forced respecs, it puts me on the spot =/. I'd rather plan it more carefully.
  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Seems to me they could have simply given a 1 time respec just to stem the amount of complaining their would be on the topic.
  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    frishter wrote: »
    I hate forced respecs, it puts me on the spot =/. I'd rather plan it more carefully.

    So what, keep a half dozen power points ready in case the devs whack your class with the change stick? Is that what you mean by planning carefully?

    I dislike the "plan ahead of pay for a respec" with a passion, and planning ahead is the weakest argument there is to justify it. But planning for dev changes is a little hard.
  • vader6139vader6139 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I can understand what the OP is depressed and angered about. Most of the commonly used powers of cw's have been altered to some respect and some have been made useless (Shard of Endless Avalanche for example). So the progression of battle has been totally changed for many if not most cw's. I tried to keep the proposed changes in mind when I leveled my CW but there are still some powers I would like to change now. Face it, the CW was totally reworked on every level, feats and powers. Asking someone to pay $5 for a supposedly F2P game just to fix their toon after the developers ****** it over is a bit much. Poor customer support in my view.
  • sexwax45sexwax45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I think a respec token should have been given personally, but everyone did get their feats reset and if you are changing your paragon path that has nothing to do with it imho just because they nerfed somethings doesn't mean you should get a free feat respec, but it would have been nice.
  • harkinharkin Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Good luck with that. ^^
  • nuitaransnuitarans Member Posts: 33
    edited August 2014
    sexwax45 wrote: »
    I think a respec token should have been given personally, but everyone did get their feats reset and if you are changing your paragon path that has nothing to do with it imho just because they nerfed somethings doesn't mean you should get a free feat respec, but it would have been nice.

    Here's the thing, it's not about whether or not they nerfed anything. It's about the fact that they claim to have made these changes SPECIFICALLY to make other powers stand out more, but then they want you to pay them to gain access to those powers because the executives defecate in their pants over the idea of "giving players 5$". Although the company may be looking at it from that perspective, from our side it looks like a really underhanded way to get evry CW, GF, and HR to shell out five bucks. Personally I'd rather just reroll unless they realize that they are being shady and underhanded, even if it IS unintentionally.
  • sexwax45sexwax45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    nuitarans wrote: »
    Here's the thing, it's not about whether or not they nerfed anything. It's about the fact that they claim to have made these changes SPECIFICALLY to make other powers stand out more, but then they want you to pay them to gain access to those powers because the executives defecate in their pants over the idea of "giving players 5$". Although the company may be looking at it from that perspective, from our side it looks like a really underhanded way to get evry CW, GF, and HR to shell out five bucks. Personally I'd rather just reroll unless they realize that they are being shady and underhanded, even if it IS unintentionally.

    I know exactly what you mean as my chars are HR, GWF, and CW so i know but really you don't have to change that stuff its just personal preference as you want to maximize your dps but it wouldn't necessarily affect game play.
  • nwaurionnwaurion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 39
    edited August 2014
    I would have preferred a token.

    This way, i can not test the old build without using up the respec.
  • vader6139vader6139 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    sexwax45 wrote: »
    I know exactly what you mean as my chars are HR, GWF, and CW so i know but really you don't have to change that stuff its just personal preference as you want to maximize your dps but it wouldn't necessarily affect game play.

    Disagree with you here. They could change every single thing and I could still play the game, just not well.

    Has nothing to do with personal preference. Has to do with how one plays their toon in PvE, dungeon groups, PvP, etc. The powers I am used to using in combination might not work now due to what the devs did to them. In that case I should be allowed to change my powers for free.
  • mystagoguemystagogue Member Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I totally get charging me to change my build because I want to. But making significant changes and then making me pay to adapt - poor form/bad look once again...
  • nuitaransnuitarans Member Posts: 33
    edited August 2014
    ^^ This. A million times, this.
  • myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Guess I'd better check my CW after work . . . well, I won't probably be able to login to the game until tomorrow morning - wife's got me busy after work . . .
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  • d4rthd00fusd4rthd00fus Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Even Dwight seemed to expect it. It's just a given. I'm really hoping this was an oversight. I'm just redoing feats ATM, and waiting on that free respec. They must know that we tailored powers and stats and boons based on what the previous build was capable of. It is truly senseless to not give us some token gesture after hammering us with the nerfbat so hard.
  • lihin23nihillihin23nihil Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    nwaurion wrote: »
    I would have preferred a token.

    This way, i can not test the old build without using up the respec.

    Go to the test server and test. Full respecs are free there.
  • pointsmanpointsman Member Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Eh - if you didn't have any points at all in Steal Time, that's your own fault.
  • nativejoenativejoe Member Posts: 40
    edited August 2014
    pointsman wrote: »
    Eh - if you didn't have any points at all in Steal Time, that's your own fault.

    I was using Fanning the flame (increased its cooldown to near uselessness at 22 seconds) , Icy terrain, icy conduit, and Shard of endless avalach. I had no reason to put any points into Steal time.
  • abaddon523abaddon523 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    pointsman wrote: »
    Eh - if you didn't have any points at all in Steal Time, that's your own fault.

    What about Orb of Imposition? Or Storm Spell? I preferred Eye of the Storm and Evocation to those big time. Now they've been re-worked to the point of being the best options. I've got enough spare power points to cover them but not everyone will.
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  • wildfire412001wildfire412001 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 114 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    when i checked my HR, all of the points had been reset to zero, allowing me to choose which paragon path i wanted to go with now. but i didn't get to reset my powers :(
  • nevawinnanevawinna Member Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    M4 changed a lot of POWERS yet only FEATS were reset. What sense does that make? Did the other half of that reset go missing with dragonborn race and warlock pack items? Are we getting a POWER reset?
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