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is level 20 leadership worth it?
rotatorkuf
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right now, i'm at level 16, think it's going to take forever to get to 20
should i just start leveling another or other professions?
or is level 20 leadership a lot better than level 16
should i just start leveling another or other professions?
or is level 20 leadership a lot better than level 16
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the most i can get right now is protect diamond shipemtn, with rare task, 1600 RAD
normal task, 400 RAD with fight off spell
Once I have all my slots open on my max leadership characters and can grind pure leadership on them, which I'm getting close to on some, I'll probably be able to double that.
Leadership is the main way busy people and Altoholics make A.D.
Ten toons + 20 Leadership = 100,000 A.D. PER DAY.
Although, I would recommend that you wait until either the third or fourth Profession to start ranking up Leadership. I've tried it and it is quicker to LvL up three other Professions (just through Deep Wilderness Gathering + Alchemy) and THEN do Leadership than it is to LvL up Leadership alone from the start.
More profitable too, because you always have the open slots to both generate A.D. AND build resources to generate future A.D.
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Calculating Lvl 20 Leadership for minimum 5 Characters
AD = Astral Diamonds ADV = Adventurer (Blue Leadership) Hero = Hero
AD for 1 ADV = Approximately 90,000 as of 7/31/2014
AD For 1 ADV in each slot = 270,000
AD For 2 ADV in each slot = 540,000
Total AD for 1 ADV Maxed Char = 540,000 AD
Base income for 5 Characters with 20 Leadership using white/green assets
5x9,600 (3x Destroy Enemy Camp/Char) = 48000AD
5x 3600 (3x Fight Off Spellplagued/Char - 3times/day) =18000AD
Total AD Base Income = 66000AD/Day, 462000AD/Week, 1848000AD/Month
Calculating Full ADV AD Gain
ADV = 25% Reduction in Leadership Mission
Goal for ADV is the 12hr (720 Minute) Destroy Enemy Camp Mission; they will be
supported by the (6hr Fight Off Spellplagued Mission that brings in a gain of 18000
Additional AD/day unassisted by any advanced assets)
1 ADV in Primary Mission slot of a 12hr (720m) mission brings the duration to 9hr’s
(540m).
If you factor in 8hrs of sleep per day, a 9hr Mission is unfeasible due to only being
able to complete 2 missions per day, which overall still brings in the base income of
66,000AD/day.
Adding an additional ADV to the mission does not double the reduction of 25% to 50%,
it reduces the duration of the already adjusted mission duration. This brings the 9hr
(540m) mission down to 6.75hrs (405m)
With 6.75hrs duration you can effectively run a mission 3 times per day. Once when you
wake up, second mid-day, and third before you go to bed. This being supported by the
6hr Fight off Spellplagued Mission brings in a substantial increase in AD and with it the
convenience of both mission types finishing within less than an hour of each other.
-Below is a timeline of how I obtained this setup just using the base setup of 66,000 AD/
day that come with 5 characters at level 20 leadership, just by using leadership. As you
gain enough AD to purchase the required 6 Adventurers/char (ADV) for this plan to
be effective, you put them to use which further increases your AD gain. Numbers will
differ, but I was lucky enough to start already owning enough MAA to make a total of 3
adventurers, this brought my total ADV needed down to 27 from 30.
Leadership progression for full ADV on all char (5 Weeks)
Note: *5x 9,600 = 1,600AD Destroy Enemy Camp 2x/day in 3 slots
*5x 3,600 = 400 AD Fight off Spellplagued 3x/day in 3 slots
*1-5x 14,400 = AD gain of Destroy Enemy Camp with 2 ADV
(Goal 6 Adv per Char) (1 Adv = 90,000 AD)
(Own 3 Adventurer, Goal 30 = 27 Adv needed = approximately 2.43mil AD)
1. 5x 9,600 (48000), 5x 3600 (18000)
Totals: 66000/Day, 462000/Week, 1848000/Month
---5 Adventurer/Week = 1w + 3 ADV owned = 1 Char Complete (2 Spare ADV)
2. 1x 14,400, 4x 9,600, 5x 3600 (18000)
Totals: 70800/Day, 495600/Week, 1982400/Month
---5 Adventurer/Week = 2w + 2 Spare = 2 Char Complete (1 Spare ADV)
3. 2x 14,400, 3x9,600, 5x 3600 (18000)
Totals: 75600/Day, 529200/Week, 2116800/Month
---5 Adventurer/Week = 3w + 1 Spare = 3 Char Complete
4. 3x 14,400, 2x9,600, 5x 3600 (18000)
Totals: 80400/Day, 562800/Week, 2251200/Month
---6 Adventurer/Week = 4w + 0 Spare = 4 Char Complete
5. 4x 14,400, 1x9,600, 5x 3600 (18000)
Totals: 85200/Day, 596400/Week, 2385600/Month
---6 Adventurer/Week = 5w + 0 Spare = 5 Char Complete (56,400 AD/spare)
AD Gain with 5 Char Full ADV
6. 5x 14,400, 5x 3600 (18000)
Totals: 90000/Day, 630000/Week, 2520000/Month
dude wtf holy **** lol
I got some AD Income =P
Exactly my thoughts, ****! *goes back to reading it*
Getting to this point is a time sink yes, and requires ALOT of patience, but it's worth it in the long run. The reason I do 5 characters at a time, is because you can use the original 90,000AD/day income to speed up the leveling process of the next 5 characters buy rushing the missions with AD.
I worked my way and invested in two Heroes slowly but surely. I also have a Guard.
Log in and start one crafting slot with both Heroes for 1600 AD. Set the Guard on a slot for say 100 AD. Set rest of tasks.
LA LA LA go about dailies and dungeon and rotating other crafting slots. Do this for awhile.
BING! 1700 AD. Probably can do this twice during the day if I am lucky to have a full day for it. Guard gets rotated maybe 4 times max.
Set three crafting slots before final log out with two Heroes for 1600 AD each, and one for the 100 AD again. SLEEP!
1600 x 4 then add in 100 x 4, and uhm another 100 = loads of AD.
I only have one character by the way. However, even with THAT Leadership Rank 20 is well worth it.
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My Ad Gain is unstable due to leadership level difference. but I can get 300-400k per week. HAMSTER poor income though if you're HAMSTER Draco within 8 mins XD I feel that its not worth it anymore if you do duns alot, but an extra source of income is always better. I started like 5 months ago, I now have 3 perfect enchants 1mediumworg, 1whitetiger, and my 4 mains are well equip with r7-r9s. Money Spent = $0
Time Spent = 1411 hours. Get a really Good PVE guild
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I level by focusing on what gives max Leadership EXP unless one of those nice 1600AD projects pop up. I'd say work yourself up to the Footman+Armor+sword=240EXP that someone mentioned (L13??)and fill out empty space with Refugee, Green maps or mining claim farming projects for 120EXP. Building up a good supply of blue and green junk will pay you later when you get closer to 20. The speed bonus slot that opens is relatively cheap and easy to get. I grabbed a few cheap green persons (assets) and completed a harvesting project to get it early. Correction: I don't remember exactly which it was, but it was a crafting project with 3 bonus asset slots, not a harvesting project.
Now if only Weaponsmithing and similar were as quick to level blah!
BTW you altoholics posting all your income figures are SSOOOO gonna get that cash cow nerfed. SSSSHHHsssshhh....Jonny Law is gonna hear ya and come take your livelihood
Cynical but sadly probably true.
That having been said, remember that once you have enough capital reserves (maybe around 2/3 million or so), playing the AH or other such things is probably better with regard to rewards per time spent than doing Leadership. However, Leadership will really help you get to that stage, especially if you only have a few toons.
As someone else said try to get two other professions (or at least one) up to level 20 to open up as many slots as possible before starting Leadership. Also see if you can open the 100% speed slot by buying the four cheapest (blue) workers of any profession. You will want to find some more detailed posts about this though.
At leadership level 16 the progression is somewhere at 20%, to burn remaining 120K fast - i do twice day all exp tasks and one 120xp - 2640 xp per day. That is additional 45 days to full leveling from that point. Don't hire Mercenaries neither upgrade them - it slows - white rank 3 takes 21 days and much less xp. Only AD task i do before level 20 is "Protect Diamond Shipment"
What 90000? There's no way that can be right! :P
The only situation where it is not worth it is if you are already getting 24.000+ RAD per day from salvaging on every one of your alts, so you have no use for more RAD.
Leadership is worth the grind . . . and it IS a grind.
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Doesn't that take buying 8 blue workers - then upgrading both to purple? I thought it took 2 purple workers to get 100% speed task done.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
You can do it with four blues instead on any profession that has a Task that lets you use four workers at once. There is usually one of the low level Mass Gather XXXXXX or similar.
However, Leadership doesn't have any such task sadly, so in that case you would have to use 2 purples. This is one of the reasons people suggest leveling another profession (or possibly even two) to 20 first before starting on Leadership.