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myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
edited March 2015 in General Discussion (PC)
Being the casual gamer, I encounter quite a few acronyms and abbreviations that I do not readily recgonize, like BiS (among MANY others).

Is there a post/topic that lists commonly used acronyms/abbrevations and their respective meanings??

Please end my confusion! Thanks! :)
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myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
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    iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    You should list what ones you see most , I had a quick look and there doesn't seem to be a list or guide for Neverwinter , by the way BiS means Best in Slot or the very best armor ,weapon ,enchantment or companion.
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    myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    iambecks1 wrote: »
    You should list what ones you see most , I had a quick look and there doesn't seem to be a list or guide for Neverwinter , by the way BiS means Best in Slot or the very best armor ,weapon ,enchantment or companion.

    Thanks so much for telling me what BiS means! I tried for a long time to figure it out but the meaning would not come to me. :)

    I keep seeing "CC" come up a lot and it is not ringing a bell in my mind as well.

    It would be cool if someone could put together a "sticky" list of commonly used abbreviations and acronyms for this forum. I am not knowledgeable enough to create it - a bit of a newb myself. It should probably be alphabetized by abbreviation/acronym and include everything from character classes (TR, GWF, CW, etc.) to build types (can't remember any due to being a newb) to campaigns, and more.

    If someone were to start a thread with the ones they know and use a lot, others could add to the thread to build the list into something wonderful. :)
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    myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
    pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
    looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
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    thebrimanthebriman Member Posts: 218 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    CC= "crowd control"
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    untamedengineer#6733 untamedengineer Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    CC is the most commonly the shorthand for Crowd Control (stun, mesmerize, or any other ability designed to interrupt or make idle another computer or player controlled character).
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    sexwax45sexwax45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I fell like its a little hard to start a list because every class has their own acronyms for their specific skills, like SS could be Split Shot for a HR where as SS would be Sure Strike for a GWF. Literaly anything can have an acroynmy so it all can depend on the discussion but we could name a few.

    PVE - person vs enviorment
    PVP - person vs person
    GG - Gauntlgrym
    IWD - Icewind Dale
    DR - Dread Ring
    PF - Phantasmal Fortress
    DS - Dread Spire
    WF - Witch Fen
    DF - Death Forge
    BoA - Binds on Account
    BoE - Binds on Equip
    BoP - Binds on Pickup
    NPC - Non player Character
    DD - Dungeon Delvs
    VT - Valindra's Tower
    CN - Castle Never
    DV - Dread Vault
    MC - Malabog's Castle
    SC - Spellplauge Cavern
    FH - Frozen Heart
    SW - Scourge Warlock
    CW - Control Wizard
    DC - Devoted Claric
    GF - Gurdian Fighter
    GWF - Great Weapon Fighter
    HR - Hunter Ranger
    TR - Trickster Rouge
    AD - Astral Diamonds
    RAD - Rough Astral Diamonds
    ZAX - Zen AD exchange
    WAI - Working as Intended
    ToD - Tyranny of Dragons

    And the list goes on and on...
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    kirkcaldykirkcaldy Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    If CC is Crowd Control, what is Critical Chance. ?

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    myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    sexwax45 wrote: »
    I fell like its a little hard to start a list because every class has their own acronyms for their specific skills, like SS could be Split Shot for a HR where as SS would be Sure Strike for a GWF. Literaly anything can have an acroynmy so it all can depend on the discussion but we could name a few.

    PVE - person vs enviorment
    PVP - person vs person
    GG - Gauntlgrym
    IWD - Icewind Dale
    DR - Dread Ring
    PF - Phantasmal Fortress
    DS - Dread Spire
    WF - Witch Fen
    DF - Death Forge
    BoA - Binds on Account
    BoE - Binds on Equip
    BoP - Binds on Pickup
    NPC - Non player Character
    DD - Dungeon Delvs
    VT - Valindra's Tower
    CN - Castle Never
    DV - Dread Vault
    MC - Malabog's Castle
    SC - Spellplauge Cavern
    FH - Frozen Heart
    SW - Scourge Warlock
    CW - Control Wizard
    DC - Devoted Claric
    GF - Gurdian Fighter
    GWF - Great Weapon Fighter
    HR - Hunter Ranger
    TR - Trickster Rouge
    AD - Astral Diamonds
    RAD - Rough Astral Diamonds
    ZAX - Zen AD exchange
    WAI - Working as Intended
    ToD - Tyranny of Dragons

    And the list goes on and on...

    Nice start! The list doesn't have to be perfect, but it sure would help new people on the forums understand things much better! :)
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    myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
    pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
    looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
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    veshorokveshorok Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 127 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    sexwax45 wrote: »

    SC - Spellplauge Cavern

    for Spellplague I often see SP abbreviation

    some other dungeons:
    CT - Clock Tower
    (L)MD - Lair of Mad Dragon
    GWD - Grey Wolf Den
    ToS - Temple of Spider
    KR - Kessel's Retreat
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    myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    veshorok wrote: »
    for Spellplague I often see SP abbreviation

    some other dungeons:
    CT - Clock Tower
    (L)MD - Lair of Mad Dragon
    GWD - Grey Wolf Den
    ToS - Temple of Spider
    KR - Kessel's Retreat

    Nice! I think I have seen Lair of Mad Dragon abbreviated as LoMD. I may be wrong - I am the newb after all. :)
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    myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
    pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
    looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
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    sexwax45sexwax45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I find it really depends on the person a lot of names can be abbreviated several way. Few more below

    CS - Critical Strike
    AP - Armor Penetration
    LS - Life Steal
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    tinukedatinukeda Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    AoE = Area of Effect

    (is that too "1st grade" of an abbreviation? hehe)
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    hefisdohefisdo Member Posts: 709 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    Never saw someone say "CS" for critical strike or "CC" for critical chance.

    It's commonly referred just as "crit" for both I think.

    And Armor Penetration is "ArP". "AP" means Action Points.
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    bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    "BiS" means "Best in slot" or "Best in socket", and typically refers to the best piece of equipment or best type of enchantment one can use in a particular piece of gear/enchantment slot.

    Others that are generally used:

    GF = guardian fighter
    GWF = great weapon fighter
    DC = devoted cleric
    HR = hunter ranger
    TR = trickster rogue
    CW = control wizard
    SW = scourge warlock (new class coming w/ module 4)

    AS = astral shield or astral seal (usually the former, as it is a key DC skill for keeping tams healed/alive)
    stone = one of various type of Ioun stone companions - a special type of companion that doesn't attack or have any powers, and only applies its own stats toward the character that has it summoned
    GS = gear score - the rating of a character that includes things like stats, gear, enchantments, boons, etc
    CTA = call to arms - a special version of existing skirmishes, typically with other special rewards attached to it

    gg = good game - can be meant sincerely or to deride others, so be careful of the context it is used in / can also mean Gauntlgrym.
    gj = good job
    gtg = got to go (I have to leave) or good to go (ready for whatever is next)
    + = ready (you'll often see someone just type in this if you're on a team looking to do multiple runs of a dungeon in Gauntlgrym or during a CTA

    Gnarl or GR = Gnarlroot caves in Feywild - 1st area lair
    WF = Witchfen - 2nd area lair
    Cela = Tower of Celdaine - 3rd area lair

    DS = Dreadspire lair in Dread Ring
    PF = Phantasmal Fortress in Dread Ring
    DF = Death Forge in Dread Ring
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    lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    While we're on the subject of acronyms, PWE refers to the company. PWI refers to the game Perfect World International. I see those get confused A LOT.

    On topic: ....bah, fine time for me to take my meds because I'm so fuzzy I can't think of any other acronyms....
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    loboguildloboguild Member Posts: 2,371 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    sexwax45 wrote: »
    I find it really depends on the person a lot of names can be abbreviated several way. Few more below

    CS - Critical Strike
    AP - Armor Penetration

    AP is Actions Points
    ArPen = Armor Penetration

    Also rarely see CS for Critical Strike, its simply Crit
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    frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Also if you're in icewind, dv can mean dwarven valley as well as dread vault.
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    bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    frishter wrote: »
    Also if you're in icewind, dv can mean dwarven valley as well as dread vault.

    Continuing with Icewind Dale...

    IWD = Icewind Dale
    BG = Biggrin's Tomb, (A weekly lair in Icewind Pass - gives 50 Konig coins and about 1200 black ice)
    HE = Heroic Enounter
    TT = Ten Towns
    AB = Arcane Brotherhood
    BiB = Black Ice Beholder (A big HE in Dwarven Valley)
    KR = Kessel's Retreat (sometimes just called Kessel's) - the special skirmish for IWD
    Remo/Rem = Remorhaz - a major HE in Icewind Pass.
    HQ/Queen = Hammerstone Queen weekly quest started from a hammer item that randomly drops off corrupted dwarves in Dwarven Valley
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    frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    bioshrike wrote: »
    Continuing with Icewind Dale...

    HQ/Queen = Hammerstone Queen weekly quest started from a hammer item that randomly drops off corrupted dwarves in Dwarven Valley

    I don't think hq has a limit.
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    zshikarazshikara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    kirkcaldy wrote: »
    If CC is Crowd Control, what is Critical Chance. ?

    .

    Crit chance is commonly just referred to as crit. No one letter abbreviation for it.
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    naicalusnaicalus Member Posts: 645 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    It seems to in practice. I get the hammer drop about once a week. Always quickly on a day it drops. Between those times I could be slaughtering those dwarves for hours and nada.

    Can confirm SP for Spellplague Caverns; almost never see SC.

    Some common class-related shortenings/acronyms I see:

    GWF:
    SM: Swordmaster
    IV: Iron Vanguard
    Sent: Sentinel
    AoW: Avatar of War armor set
    IBS: Indomitable Battle Strike
    CaGI: Come and Get It(less used but I see it occasionally)
    Wicked/WS: Wicked Strike
    NSF: Not So Fast
    FLS: Frontline Surge

    CW:
    SS: Spellstorm Mage
    MoF: Master of Flame
    Thaum: Thaumaturge
    HV: High Vizier armor set
    SW: Shadow Weaver armor set
    Shard: Shard of the Endless Avalanche
    Sing/AS: Arcane Singularity
    OF: Oppressive Force
    Icy: Icy Terrain
    EotS: Eye of the Storm
    CC: Chilling Cloud
    MM: Magic Missile
    FtF: Fan the Flames

    DC:
    DO: Divine Oracle
    AC: Anointed Champion
    DP: Divine Power
    HP: High Prophet armor set
    MH: Miracle Healer armor set
    AS: Astral Shield(DC)
    Chains: Chains of Blazing Light
    Daunting/DL: Daunting Light
    SB: Sunburst
    FS: Flame Strike
    DA: Divine Armor
    HG: Hallowed Ground

    GF:
    Uh... Don't see GFs discussed enough to know what acronyms their stuff uses.

    HR:
    PF: Pathfinder
    SW: Stormwarden
    RG: Royal Guard armor set
    GW: Grand Warden armor set
    SS: Split Shot
    ES: Electric Shot
    CtG: Clear the Ground
    RoA: Rain of Arrows
    Marauder's: Marauders's rush/escape
    I see less acronyming on HR in general, probably due to the dual powers.

    TR:
    MI: Master Infiltrator
    WK: Whisperknife
    Swash: Swashbuckling Captain's armor set. I never see SC used for this, oddly.
    DF: Duelist's Flurry(TR)
    Lashing: Lashing Blade(TR)
    Smoke/SB: Smoke Bomb(TR)
    ItC: Impossible to Catch(TR)
    DS: Dazing Strike
    SS: Shadow Strike
    B&S/BnS: Bait and Switch
    WR: Wicked Reminder
    WoB: Whirlwind of Blades
    SE: Shocking Execution
    LA: Lurker's Assault
    CoS: Cloud of Steel
    SF: Sly Flourish
    PotB: Path of the Blade
    IS: Impact Shot
    VP: Vengeance's Pursuit

    (I know, I have the most TR ones. My main's a TR. I also theorize that TRs are lazy since I've seen all of these used by other people as well!)

    General gear:

    BI: Black Ice
    FD: Fallen Dragon weapons
    FF: Fabled Fomorian weapons
    DL: Dread Legion weapons(Also armor, but less frequently)
    CN set: The weapon sets dropped from the Dracolich in Castle Never. Ancient Spymater(TR), Castle Champion(GWF), etc. A catch-all.

    Enchantments:
    Vorp: Vorpal enchant
    SF: Soulforged enchant
    PF: Plague Fire
    Bile/BT: Bilethorn
    Bark/BS: Barkshield
    For armor/weapon enchant levels, frequently used with a . between it and the :
    L: Lesser
    G: Greater
    P: Perfect

    Example usages: GPF - Greater Plague Fire, highest level of PF; P.Vorp - Perfect Vorpal, LSF: Lesser Soulforged, P.Terror - Perfect Terror. I usually see the prefix-less versions of enchants referred to as 'normal', but I don't recall ever seeing an N used as abbreviation for this.
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    bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    frishter wrote: »
    I don't think hq has a limit.

    Well, if that's the case, its rarity seems to be odd in that I've only gotten about one per week... it grants 1900 raw black ice, a r5 black ice enchant, and some other stuff, so it's really good if it can drop more often...
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    veshorokveshorok Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 127 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    naicalus wrote: »

    Bark/BS: Barkshield

    aaah! now i won't be that confused reading all that threads about pvp..ppl just talking about armor enchantment and nothing else =)

    anyway, great list..hope, finally we'll accumulate all posts in one
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    eldartheldarth Member Posts: 4,494 Arc User
    edited July 2014
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    iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    eldarth wrote: »
    I just created/merged all previous posts.
    Any new ones, please add to wiki: Neverwinter Acronyms and Abbreviations

    Nice , when I looked yesterday I was surprised one didn't exist , you seem to be missing DPS unless I missed it.You should also copy/paste it and make a thread and ask for it to be stickyed in GD.
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    myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    eldarth wrote: »
    I just created/merged all previous posts.
    Any new ones, please add to wiki: Neverwinter Acronyms and Abbreviations

    This is freaking awesome! Thanks and nice job!!
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    myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
    pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
    looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
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    tinukedatinukeda Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    bioshrike wrote: »
    Well, if that's the case, its rarity seems to be odd in that I've only gotten about one per week... it grants 1900 raw black ice, a r5 black ice enchant, and some other stuff, so it's really good if it can drop more often...

    99% sure it's a weekly job. When you get it only once a week, and usually on the same day, it's a good sign that it's a limited event. For me, it's availability seems to cycle on Sundays (ie: all my characters get it that day and then never see it again the rest of the week until the next Sunday).
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    celticgamer0celticgamer0 Member Posts: 537 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    sexwax45 wrote: »
    I fell like its a little hard to start a list because every class has their own acronyms for their specific skills, like SS could be Split Shot for a HR where as SS would be Sure Strike for a GWF. Literaly anything can have an acroynmy so it all can depend on the discussion but we could name a few.

    PVE - person vs enviorment
    PVP - person vs person
    GG - Gauntlgrym
    IWD - Icewind Dale
    DR - Dread Ring
    PF - Phantasmal Fortress
    DS - Dread Spire
    WF - Witch Fen
    DF - Death Forge
    BoA - Binds on Account
    BoE - Binds on Equip
    BoP - Binds on Pickup
    NPC - Non player Character
    DD - Dungeon Delvs
    VT - Valindra's Tower
    CN - Castle Never
    DV - Dread Vault
    MC - Malabog's Castle
    SC - Spellplauge Cavern
    FH - Frozen Heart
    SW - Scourge Warlock
    CW - Control Wizard
    DC - Devoted Claric
    GF - Gurdian Fighter
    GWF - Great Weapon Fighter
    HR - Hunter Ranger
    TR - Trickster Rouge
    AD - Astral Diamonds
    RAD - Rough Astral Diamonds
    ZAX - Zen AD exchange
    WAI - Working as Intended
    ToD - Tyranny of Dragons

    And the list goes on and on...

    A new one I have seen is omw= on my way (basically party members letting everyone in the group know they are either switching to the main instance or heading toward the designated rendevouz point)
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    myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    tinukeda wrote: »
    99% sure it's a weekly job. When you get it only once a week, and usually on the same day, it's a good sign that it's a limited event. For me, it's availability seems to cycle on Sundays (ie: all my characters get it that day and then never see it again the rest of the week until the next Sunday).

    Hammerstone Queen is a weekly quest, based on my experience. Just need that hammer drop. :)
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    myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
    pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
    looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
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    zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    Just like to add, "NW" is the official acronym for Neverwinter while "NW:O" and "NWO" are ones used commonly by the communities. Added to the wiki as well as added some external links to the game acronyms.

    I also alphabetized everything.
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    doriangreighdoriangreigh Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 707 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    thebriman wrote: »
    CC= "crowd control"

    Although in Neverwinter CC is not much in the way of crowd control, the slows and stuns are so short in comparison to other games, I played one before this game that CC locked something down for a full 60 seconds and there were different types, like some classes could cc a droid others did biologicals. But yeah in a group that had 2 - 4 people that could CC something meant you locked down certain mobs killed the lesser ones asap then focused on the other ones one at a time so that ideally by the time the CC had elapsed you were down to one or two big mobs to hammer on.

    In Neverwinter you get like 5 seconds of actual control if you are lucky. Not saying it doesn't help but often all CC does in this game is allow you to move away or drink a pot before you'd get hit and die. So to me crowd control in this game isn't the same as it is in others and the way they do the mobs i'm thinking it should have at the very least longer lasting slows to get you a bit more time to do things other than dodge til you run out of stamina.

    Often there is so much red on the floor you can't NOT get hit by something and I just love getting stunned an have 3+ red attacks hit me, as a CW that usually means i'm dead. Recently there was a moment when I got hit by something that stunned me several seconds and in that time red after red popped under my feet and yep as I thought I was down and dead nothing I could do. I think maybe this game should not focus so much on stuns but on slowing enemy movement and slowing down how often they attack I personally think that will be something that would make this game work better from a CC type stand point.

    There is so much frost and ice in this game that I really the the CW should get more AoE slow downs and slow attacks of mobs and let the new SW take care of DPS, but i'm also all for people keeping the tried and true AoE CW too, the dps build still looks like it will be useful in the future although for now its really nice being a CW lol.
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