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Was the Heroic Duelist set nerfed? [GWF T1 PVP set]

pandora1xpandora1x Member Posts: 725 Arc User
edited June 2014 in PvE Discussion
My sis states she feels weaker than before o.0

Was this set touched somehow?
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    In what patch would that have happened?

    It's going to be made to respect healing depression, but hasn't been documented in preview patch notes yet. Not that nerfs are always documented, but at least this is one that's been announced.
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  • pherrowpherrow Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    pandora1x wrote: »
    My sis states she feels weaker than before o.0

    Was this set touched somehow?

    Happened to me as well with mod 3. Some classes were doing more damage (CW I noticed most) because of power rework(?) And maybe some other adjustments. As a sent going into mod 3, the damage I was taking was noticeably more because my defense from gear was low...but that wasn't an issue before mod 3 release.
  • pandora1xpandora1x Member Posts: 725 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    pherrow wrote: »
    Happened to me as well with mod 3. Some classes were doing more damage (CW I noticed most) because of power rework(?) And maybe some other adjustments. As a sent going into mod 3, the damage I was taking was noticeably more because my defense from gear was low...but that wasn't an issue before mod 3 release.

    Yeah that's exactly how sis feels (She is Sentinel too). She was close to unkillable before now she takes a lot of damage and is forced to pop out Waters and Ferocious reaction o.0

    So it was the power rework that affected Sentinels ?
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    pandora1x wrote: »
    Yeah that's exactly how sis feels (She is Sentinel too). She was close to unkillable before now she takes a lot of damage and is forced to pop out Waters and Ferocious reaction o.0

    So it was the power rework that affected Sentinels ?

    Its probably due to Deep Gash nerf, you are no longer hitting as hard and killing as quick, so things are hitting you longer, most gwfs have respec to destroyer.

    They had the first time zen package that gave you a respec, thats how I did mine. Too bad it wasnt for each toon.

    Im still a little ticked that they didnt give free respecs to gwf and hr as well. Both deserved it.
  • pherrowpherrow Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The rework affects all classes. But I can't say that's the only factor....their could have been other ninjas adjustments/other factors(like opponent's new gear options). But the fix is to focus other accessories to augment defensive stats if you wanna continue with the heroic set. Damage suffering? Spec destro
  • fuzzychaos13fuzzychaos13 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 127 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    Heroic set was never any good to begin with lol, even with the 4 set bonus not complying to healing depression it was still garbage.....I mean it wasnt "BAD" but there was and currently are WAY better setups then using an offensive set for a few %'s of max HP healed lol.

    It was an easy way out, but Min/Maxed GWF's who actually spent time on their toon to max out stats would take and Heroic Gwf 1v1.

    But to answer your question, yes it was nerfed and its fixed, if not now it will be (as seen on patch updates)
  • fuzzychaos13fuzzychaos13 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 127 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    silverkelt wrote: »
    Its probably due to Deep Gash nerf, you are no longer hitting as hard and killing as quick, so things are hitting you longer, most gwfs have respec to destroyer.

    They had the first time zen package that gave you a respec, thats how I did mine. Too bad it wasnt for each toon.

    Im still a little ticked that they didnt give free respecs to gwf and hr as well. Both deserved it.

    lol Deep gash is not what was "killing" targets lol, it was just a nice damage boost, Skill is what was doing the job.
  • canmanncanmann Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    fuzzychaos13 wrote: »
    lol Deep gash is not what was "killing" targets lol, it was just a nice damage boost, Skill is what was doing the job.

    If by 40 - 60% (as observed through ACT parcing) of a GWF's damage coming from one tier 1 feat... sure skill!
  • fuzzychaos13fuzzychaos13 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 127 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    canmann wrote: »
    If by 40 - 60% (as observed through ACT parcing) of a GWF's damage coming from one tier 1 feat... sure skill!

    40-60% in what? a domination match? EHH Wrong NO incorrect.

    I have personally parssed it myself in PVE and those numbers are true, especially when you consider that it is a DOT and anytime combat is happening its going to tick.....so i dont see what the problem is here.

    in PVP Gash does 15-20% DMG. which makes sense.....its a DoT.

    T1 set is garbage, it always has been garbage, its just an easy route to take and follow others.
  • pherrowpherrow Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    fuzzychaos13 wrote: »
    Heroic set was never any good to begin with lol, even with the 4 set bonus not complying to healing depression it was still garbage.....I mean it wasnt "BAD" but there was and currently are WAY better setups then using an offensive set for a few %'s of max HP healed lol.

    It was an easy way out, but Min/Maxed GWF's who actually spent time on their toon to max out stats would take and Heroic Gwf 1v1.

    But to answer your question, yes it was nerfed and its fixed, if not now it will be (as seen on patch updates)

    Wouldn't go as far as to say it was garbage. Considering how often the 4pc set bonus proc'd during a match, it was a pretty good contender after healing depression was put into play. Using that gear I had the opportunity to 1v1 various high end gwfs...I was usually very competitive in the fight at a minimum or occasionally edged a win and I am not "maxed" out.
  • slushpsychoslushpsycho Member Posts: 657 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    It has never been touched.

    It will receive nerf prior to mod 4 released.
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