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Over 100 CTA's and not one shaman drop.

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  • escapados2escapados2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I'm really starting to believe that accounts have some hidden luck roll, cause always some people reported getting several rare loots after only several runs while others none after hundreds. Even in dungeons when greed roll occured my avatars are rather likely to win some kind of items and not others.
  • obsiddiaobsiddia Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,025 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    It would be good if you improved the odd of winning a companion
    with each try
    . And then reset it once we get one.

    Got Lizard on 30th run (I'm guessing my the number of dyes...
    btw, please let dyes stack up to 99). Got the Curio on run 32.
    It's 4am. Yikes.
    Did you really think anyone could steal the power of the god of thieves?
  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I no longer do CTA events except for a few dyes and to complete the skirmish on my achievements. This thread simply reinforces my standpoint.
    RIP Neverwinter 26/06/2014
  • atarcanatarcan Member Posts: 34
    edited June 2014
    I was one of the lucky ones to get companion in less then 20 runs. What suprised me is the price of shaman in AH. Wolf and druid was around 50k AD (Couldnt get it from the skirmish so I bought the wolf for 45k during the CTA) while I sold shaman for more then 150k. Either shaman is more useful than it looks or something is not right...
  • ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I checked the AH and something is fishy here.

    Usually the CTA/event green companion prices are in the 50-70k range when the event is near its end, and they stay in that range for some time after (flame spirit, swashbuckler and green slime are all in the 50-90k range).

    Lizardfolk shaman min price is 280k. Considering that its active bonus is not that great (2% more healing), the only reason I can think of for those prices is that it drop rate is way lower than it used to be.
  • mlketysonmlketyson Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I checked the AH and something is fishy here.

    Usually the CTA/event green companion prices are in the 50-70k range when the event is near its end, and they stay in that range for some time after (flame spirit, swashbuckler and green slime are all in the 50-90k range).

    Lizardfolk shaman min price is 280k. Considering that its active bonus is not that great (2% more healing), the only reason I can think of for those prices is that it drop rate is way lower than it used to be.

    Bingo. It's not dropping hardly AT ALL and most people want them when they Do get them. When I checked, there were only 33 in the AH and the price was 360k. I'm saving mine to sell after the event ends since it's apparently a rarity. :D I got mine in like my 7th run, and the next run after that I got the curio coin. I've run it about 20 times since and nada. Just rank 3 enchants. Really rare drop rate on this one.
  • sarahtallsarahtall Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    atarcan wrote: »
    I was one of the lucky ones to get companion in less then 20 runs. What suprised me is the price of shaman in AH. Wolf and druid was around 50k AD (Couldnt get it from the skirmish so I bought the wolf for 45k during the CTA) while I sold shaman for more then 150k. Either shaman is more useful than it looks or something is not right...

    I think what people are missing is that this is a green quality healer/leader companion, which makes it automatically an upgrade from the white cleric most people use leveling up. To upgrade the white cleric to green it cost 300K AD, so it makes sense the price of the companion would hover somewhere in that range. Also, the Lizard is probably one of the best healing companions in the game, imo. The heal is great, less situational than Lillends heals (and less buggy), and it's a pretty big AoE, so it benefits more than just it's owner.
  • silence1xsilence1x Member Posts: 1,503 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Whew - thought I was the only one; over 100 runs and nothing but dye packs, a few R1/R2 enchantments and nothing else. I am certain the RNG has an exclusion for my handle :)
    I aim to misbehave
  • alexgabriel23alexgabriel23 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 276
    edited June 2014
    did arround 60-70 CTA got so far 2 shamans 2 curio and many rank 5 arround 12-14
  • escapados2escapados2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Thats what I mean about lucky accounts ;D Did about 80 CTA and no shaman nor curio so far, only about 5-6 rank 5 enchantments
  • classylionclassylion Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    If I may...

    I have seen games with even worse drop rates than neverwinter, way worse(for example Warframe). The drop rates overall for neverwinter is okay. It should be okay. But the drop rate on CTA's is just... depsressing...
    Concerning this event the skins wasn't good looking imo. It looked awful. On the other hand I like the jungle dye very much!

    In my experience CTA's usually have only one good thing out of the three.
    Always keep it Classy

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    Classy Mistress: GWF
  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    In my opinion drop rates should have included a max capacity. I knew peeps, who have 3 or more and many of us, nothing.

    They make now a ton of AD, prices gone up from 70-80k AD to even 1,1 mill AD- insane, now this makes place for speculators.
    The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
    Robert E. Lee

    I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
    Winston Churchill

    The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
    David Icke

  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    escapados2 wrote: »
    I'm really starting to believe that accounts have some hidden luck roll, cause always some people reported getting several rare loots after only several runs while others none after hundreds. Even in dungeons when greed roll occured my avatars are rather likely to win some kind of items and not others.

    Exactly my thoughts word by word!
    The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
    Robert E. Lee

    I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
    Winston Churchill

    The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
    David Icke

  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    tang56 wrote: »
    I no longer do CTA events except for a few dyes and to complete the skirmish on my achievements. This thread simply reinforces my standpoint.

    Me too, will do about 5 runs for paints and ciao, too many time wasted for nothing over and over!
    The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
    Robert E. Lee

    I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
    Winston Churchill

    The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
    David Icke

  • akemnosakemnos Member Posts: 597 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Drop rate was severely nerfed this time around. I did 100 runs myself and got no shaman and no curio. My guild usually has 5-10 extra companions that we give away to members who were not able to gain one, but this time most of the people who give the extra ones away didn't even get one themselves.

    The drop rate this time was an absolute joke.
  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    iambecks1 wrote: »
    127 runs no companion or ancient curio , totally pathetic , going to avoid CTA in future unless some method of buying a bound version of the companion is added to the CTA store , total waste of time otherwise .
    And for Christ sake developers , can you make the stupid dyes stack more than 20 .
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    This way you have to buy more bags;)

    I'm so frustrated now, no coal in nearly 9 months, now no gloves from Icewind, no wins in CTAs, like now, i'm so....
    The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
    Robert E. Lee

    I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
    Winston Churchill

    The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
    David Icke

  • wilmawuchtigwilmawuchtig Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 30
    edited June 2014
    tang56 wrote: »
    I no longer do CTA events except for a few dyes and to complete the skirmish on my achievements. This thread simply reinforces my standpoint.

    same here. Imo an event should be a fun and rewarding break from daily gaming routine. Recent CTAs are the opposite: more frustration and less rewarding than the daily routine.
  • cerrillacerrilla Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    only ran this about twenty times myself but as predicted, no comp drop. However, my concern is more with the lovely party members who on more than one occasion Kick from party just before the end chest. This is a CTA, doesn't make any sense to me how they can kick when the RNG is going to do what it's going to do - no sense but then again i am a little bit bent out of shape over the issue.
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    akemnos wrote: »
    Drop rate was severely nerfed this time around. I did 100 runs myself and got no shaman and no curio. My guild usually has 5-10 extra companions that we give away to members who were not able to gain one, but this time most of the people who give the extra ones away didn't even get one themselves.

    The drop rate this time was an absolute joke.

    Why nerf drop for the most annoying skirmish? God I hope they buff the drop rate for gate crashers, that drags on forever.
  • gonaliusgonalius Member Posts: 847 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I only bothered 20 times myself (Well, 21 including a single run with my level 16 second character), and yep, no luck. Mind you, I wasn't particularly expecting any - The minimum number of runs I've needed to do before to nab a lackey was 60-odd, and this one I didn't find interesting enough to even seriously try (I was going to do just 10 runs, but I found I had a lot more time on my hands than I was expecting).

    I have enough green companions now that I actually DON'T want too many more - Then I'd have to buy slots for them.
  • vonsteubenvonsteuben Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Thought I already posted this but I cant seem to find it for some reason. Hmm

    Just over 250 w/o a single shaman or curio drop. Can't say more about it without getting mad.
  • wanderer0000wanderer0000 Member Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    RNG is a *****, but I got one in 4 runs with my GWF, but the launch day I did like 20 with my cw and no luck.
  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    This way you have to buy more bags;)

    Lol I already have 4 greater bags of holding , doesn't alter the fact they need to make dyes stack to more than 20 xD
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  • tirianganimirtirianganimir Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    First CTA in which I was disappointed. Ran it most of the weekend, without a drop. The developers of this game are usually good at listening to the community. Please make it possible to get the reward if you put in enough time.
  • williep30williep30 Member Posts: 773 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    ive done close to 100 runs on all my characters, and got 1 curio and 1 companion.
    I hear "learn to play" all the time, but it seems to me that it should be defined as "my class is balanced, except when others beat it, then THAT class is OP"...
  • vattaravattara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Disappointed in RNG for the pet and curio :(
    Ran the CTA with 2 characters
    DC - 67 runs : 67 dye kits, 10 R5, no pet, no curio
    CW - 63 runs: 63 dye kits, 8 R5, 1 pet , 1 curio
    Interestingly the curio dropped the very next run through. Chat wold suggest that this was a common pattern

    I much preferred the event model where you can purchase a Bound to Character pet even it it takes a lot of tokens, in addition to the low rate of drop.
    I didn't buy any weapons. I liked the artwork but it didn't fit my characters' styles.

    Bought and sold refiner's cache's and made about 5k per box in AH.

    I really hope that the Devs rethink drop rates or how players can purchase pets in the next event / Anniversay.
    Oh and can we please have dye kits be stackable higher than 20?
  • hetz000hetz000 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    220 runs with 6 chars, around 35 runs with every char, 2 companions,0 curio, 14 rank 5.
    Companions dropped around run 160.
  • barq3tbarq3t Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 165 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    guy from my guild got shaman on his 362 run - dunno if laugh or cry:)
  • ransommcmastersransommcmasters Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Normally I'm on the side against whining about drop rates and having to work hard to get something worthwhile. I think in this case its a clear case of where its becoming painfully obvious that some rethinking needs to go into the reward rates. Like some others have suggested, I could see how an increasing reward rate depending on how many times you've run the event, a purchasable reward Bound to Account being added to the vendor, or some other mechanism be added to avoid having players felt like they've been left high and dry despite their effort.

    I (only) ran the event 50 times, but I still want to rage quit everytime I see the 3 stacks of Dyes in my packs.
  • sigmattsigmatt Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    From the looks of it, cryptic still thinks they're giving out wayyyyy toooo many companions and ancient curios from this event. All work and no reward is what the name of the game should've been.
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