New Icewind Dale Factions Issues

doublea2012

Yes these new factions need to be controlled by the guild leader and the new factions should not have a contract that drops every 24 hours, this is not only a headache but a pain in the HAMSTER, I do not want to see my guildies on the battlefield in Red, so please correct your major pain, and give the guild leaders control of which faction they are instead of member by member, as I said this causes problems:mad::mad::mad:

melodywhr

it's understandable that you want to stand with your guild on all battlefields and if you are teaming up and grouping for icewind dale's daily quests and/or for pvp or whatever, then you can all make sure to join the same faction. you could even have your guild leaders decide that your guild is strictly one faction, however the mechanics are still going to dictate that each individual character has to choose a side to do IWD daily quests. if the mechanics prevent you from joining the side you want to choose... not sure what to tell you. i am almost certain that the reason this mechanic was set this way was because of the issues seen in gauntlegrym with the guild-chosen factions there. or perhaps they wanted to implement a different method than what already exists in gauntlegrym.

honestly i'd rather it be the way it is now because it will try to keep the factions more balanced.

jintortle

Also guildies can now square off for 1 on 1.

forumnamesarelam

jintortle wrote: »

Also guildies can now square off for 1 on 1.

We've done this... because it's fun.

So, really, I like it the way it is. Great and flexible system.

naicalus

Also, the elephant in the room - Setting IWD faction at guild level would be stupid beyond belief, because it would require guild membership to even do the module. Guilds are IMO a huge pain in the ***(I have my own private one-person guild made with the assistance of people from the Legit channel I use solely for GG access) and either dead or full of drama. No thanks. Bad enough it's required for GG.

zebular

. . . You can switch faction at any time by talking to the faction leader and breaking the contract then going and signing up with the other faction to join your guildies on the same faction. Making it guild-based is not something I would want as that would put restrictions on enjoying the content how I want to enjoy it.

. . . The 24 hours is just how long your contract lasts on its own. As I said, you can break it and sign one with the other side at any time. I like being able to choose which faction I want to serve that day and then having the option to change my mind, at any time, is great.

frishter

zebular wrote: »

. . . You can switch faction at any time by talking to the faction leader and breaking the contract then going and signing up with the other faction to join your guildies on the same faction. Making it guild-based is not something I would want as that would put restrictions on enjoying the content how I want to enjoy it.

. . . The 24 hours is just how long your contract lasts on its own. As I said, you can break it and sign one with the other side at any time. I like being able to choose which faction I want to serve that day and then having the option to change my mind, at any time, is great.

You can't swap if the teams full though. I'm not sure that's a necessary restriction though considering I was like the only one against 12 others anyway. Though I disagree with it being guild set.

zebular

frishter wrote: »

You can't swap if the teams full though. I'm not sure that's a necessary restriction though considering I was like the only one against 12 others anyway. Though I disagree with it being guild set.

Just wait a few minutes until someone leaves. I only had to wait 2 minutes to join when one was full.

skalt112

I don't think it's really an issue. I mean you have motd. all the guild leader needs to do is post what faction in it.

jintortle

you can change factions at a click of a button - you can even get the other factions dailies and still change factions.

No problem - if your Guildies decide to be on another faction to you maybe they are sending a message!

rashylewizz

skalt112 wrote: »

I don't think it's really an issue. I mean you have motd. all the guild leader needs to do is post what faction in it.

Except when a faction fills up during peak times.....

There is no continuity. Guild-integration is ignored.

You have guilds FFS Cryptic. Are you guys hellbent on making this game a purely 5-party game?

lillibp

As someone have already pointed out, making the faction choice guild controled, would force people to be in a guild just to enter the new content. I have seen many guildless people in Icewind Dale. I have also seen 15 people (3 full patrties) from one guild rule IWD pvp. You can just have your guild master tell what faction your guild prefers. It dont need to be a bound choice. So as I see it, this flexible faction choice works for all.

zebular

rashylewizz wrote: »

Except when a faction fills up during peak times.....

There is no continuity. Guild-integration is ignored.

You have guilds FFS Cryptic. Are you guys hellbent on making this game a purely 5-party game?

Guild integration? Uhm, how about the guild decides and lets everyone know what faction to choose? If it's full, just wait a few moments. Goodness sakes. Sounds more like a Guild Activity/Communication issue to me, which you really should work out in your own guild.

rashylewizz

zebular wrote: »

Guild integration? Uhm, how about the guild decides and lets everyone know what faction to choose? If it's full, just wait a few moments. Goodness sakes. Sounds more like a Guild Activity/Communication issue to me, which you really should work out in your own guild.

I would prefer it to be required and integrated into the system. We do use communication and what you just described is how we are left to do, but why make this decision of putting an extra hurdle into whole guilds being in the same faction/instance?

What if an epic encounter has a few minutes left and one of the guildies cannot join the party and thus join the instance (this is another gripe, but that's a whole different topic that needs another thread) because his contract expired?

There are ways around it, but why even put the hurdles in the first place? I was hoping module 3 to be the first step in which Cryptic slowly moves the game towards more than 5-man parties. I understand guild raids are a far distant dream for this game, but at least put some effort into getting there.

yarknarf

If you have communicated the guilds proclamation and people are joining the enemy then it sounds like discipline issues in the ranks.

I would suggest a good old fashion decimation.

Line em up and gut the tenth man.

Although, if you draw and quarter a single man, someone who will scream and beg preferably, than you may get by with just that.

Just joking of course but seriously, I don't see this as an issue.

If you feel the need to have control then just have control.

Other guilds may feel differently and want their ranks to have a choice.

I have half my toons in TT and half in AB, myself, and want to remain that way till I don't anymore.

ryugasirius

doublea2012 wrote: »

Yes these new factions need to be controlled by the guild leader and the new factions should not have a contract that drops every 24 hours, this is not only a headache but a pain in the HAMSTER, I do not want to see my guildies on the battlefield in Red, so please correct your major pain, and give the guild leaders control of which faction they are instead of member by member, as I said this causes problems:mad::mad::mad:

Looks like you have major coordination/communication difficulties in your guild. Setting a "guild policy" towards IwD is as easy as setting up a MotD saying "We're joining the Arcane Brotherhood/Ten Towns today/this week/forever, please act accordingly".

Besides, you can make and break contracts on-the-fly, so if you see most of your guildmates on a different team, just switch your own contract.

rodrant64

How could anyone want the ID factions to be guild-based after seeing what that did for GG? It's perfect the way it is, guilds can let their members know what faction they should be and you only have to wait a couple minutes to get in to your faction if it's full.

And it allows for some in-guild pvp'ing in the open pvp area. >:)