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ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
edited May 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
Like... ADs, Glory...

Seriously, pvp haters are punished enough in this game for trying to get things such as the artifact. At least allow them to only need to grind with their best geared character. They already have to earn less glory for getting hopelessly stomped, AND have to do 4 pvp matches because winners fill 2/4 of their daily.
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  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ADs can be moved through the ZEN exchange easily between characters on the same account already--see the EFAQ.

    As for glory, there's a reason that most gear gained via glory is BoP, so...allowing glory to be transferred between characters defeats that purpose.
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  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    As for glory, there's a reason that most gear gained via glory is BoP

    Yes. To combat bots farming AD. I wouldn't say it was a bad idea considering the queue doesn't take any consideration of proper balance.
  • jazzfongjazzfong Member Posts: 1,079 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Currently the glory transfer is bugged. GG coins and pvp seals can be exchanged for a badge of glory, it is BoA. However, it cant be transfered via mail or account shared bank to your alts as it is bugged atm. It says it is character bounded.
  • adinosiiadinosii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jazzfong wrote: »
    Currently the glory transfer is bugged. GG coins and pvp seals can be exchanged for a badge of glory, it is BoA. However, it cant be transfered via mail or account shared bank to your alts as it is bugged atm. It says it is character bounded.

    Glory transfer does not work, which is as it should be...so in what sense is it bugged ?
    Hoping for improvements...
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    As for glory, there's a reason that most gear gained via glory is BoP, so...allowing glory to be transferred between characters defeats that purpose.
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    What purpose? Flooding pvp with more easy meat for top geared players because lowbies simply want something from the store. It's only causing more misery. Allowing your main to grind for an alt does NOT destroy any purpose or system.
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ghoulz66 wrote: »
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    What purpose? Flooding pvp with more easy meat for top geared players because lowbies simply want something from the store. It's only causing more misery. Allowing your main to grind for an alt does NOT destroy any purpose or system.

    Read the above posts, and you'll see the purpose. However, in the event that you haven't or choose not to, it's to combat bot AD farmers.
    Yes. To combat bots farming AD. I wouldn't say it was a bad idea considering the queue doesn't take any consideration of proper balance.
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  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The items are still bind on pickup. Still does not cause harm.....
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ghoulz66 wrote: »
    The items are still bind on pickup. Still does not cause harm.....

    The entire reason they were made BoP was to combat automated AD farming. Hence, being able to transfer glory (and thus, getting around the BoP requirement) defeats the purpose.
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  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The entire reason they were made BoP was to combat automated AD farming. Hence, being able to transfer glory (and thus, getting around the BoP requirement) defeats the purpose.

    ........

    That does nothing to stop a botter from simply using an alt. Harms the player, not the botter.
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The entire reason they were made BoP was to combat automated AD farming. Hence, being able to transfer glory (and thus, getting around the BoP requirement) defeats the purpose.

    Well they did sell them on the AH. The items remain BoP, but if you could share glory (account wide) it wouldn't really make botting more worth it. I'm not overly fussed either way though. It did make things easier when I could buy the gear for my other toons when it was available though.
  • spongebob56spongebob56 Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I can't see the block for Glory trading having something to do with botters. That said, I don't think people should be getting PvP gear purchased for one of their toons by farming glory with their other toons. That gear is suppose to be an award for a toon putting in the effort at PvP, good or bad. I can proudly show others my PvP gear for my DC. He went through hell to get it. If I used my PvP spec'd toons to get it for him it wouldn't be the same.
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  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I can't see the block for Glory trading having something to do with botters. That said, I don't think people should be getting PvP gear purchased for one of their toons by farming glory with their other toons. That gear is suppose to be an award for a toon putting in the effort at PvP, good or bad. I can proudly show others my PvP gear for my DC. He went through hell to get it. If I used my PvP spec'd toons to get it for him it wouldn't be the same.

    The thing is when youre a fresh level 60. You will get your HAMSTER kicked. You should really be able to play against others around your gear level but that's far from the case and some people will even blame that person rather that it being the queue system. That hampers the enjoyment on that individual and it hampers the enjoyment on their team.

    I agree with there being no reason not to share AD across toons though via the bank even if there is still a way to do it. Trade bars too would be nice.
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I can't see the block for Glory trading having something to do with botters. That said, I don't think people should be getting PvP gear purchased for one of their toons by farming glory with their other toons. That gear is suppose to be an award for a toon putting in the effort at PvP, good or bad. I can proudly show others my PvP gear for my DC. He went through hell to get it. If I used my PvP spec'd toons to get it for him it wouldn't be the same.

    Simple fact. I hate pvp. Do not enjoy getting rolled over endlessly on my best geared character just for the artifact. If I want it for my undergeared CW, the misery continues on and that character won't even be able to put up a fight or at least compete.

    Don't care about pride, I just want to get it over with and let pvp people do their thing.
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    magenubbie wrote: »
    Agreed. Moving AD through your account bank would be nice tho. Yes, you can do it with the zen exchange, we all know that. But if it's allowed the complicated way, I see no reason not to make it easier and just use the account bank.

    Yeah. I can do it, but it'd be nicer to just be able to pool my AD from my 7-8 characters in the account bank, so that 1. it'd all be together, and 2. whichever one needed it could pull some out.
    ghoulz66 wrote: »
    Simple fact. I hate pvp. Do not enjoy getting rolled over endlessly on my best geared character just for the artifact. If I want it for my undergeared CW, the misery continues on and that character won't even be able to put up a fight or at least compete.

    I hate pvp, too. Know what I did to deal with that? I didn't get the pvp artifact.
  • thirstiusthirstius Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Characters who do not earn the PVP artifact are not entitled to the PVP artifact.
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    thirstius wrote: »
    Characters who do not earn the PVP artifact are not entitled to the PVP artifact.

    Alt getting slaughtered and having no choice but to camp the entire match out does not = earned.
  • rittzbitzrittzbitz Member Posts: 116 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    macjae wrote: »
    Split the stack. Only the first item acts BoP; once split off, the rest can be transferred via mail.
    You trying to get this patched? :(
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    rittzbitz wrote: »
    You trying to get this patched? :(

    Depends whether it was intended or not. Barkshield shards work the same way and theyre suppose to be unbound from originally being bound.
  • jintortlejintortle Member Posts: 655 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    AD would be great
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  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jintortle wrote: »
    AD would be great

    I recall trying before to post and cancel on each toon, but couldn't. Had to withdraw and repost/cancel for each character.
  • vrtesseractvrtesseract Member Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    you can already transfer AD via the zen exchange just withdraw all from pool put up a buy zen for a obnoxiously low price like 50-100 then cancel it it will end up the the AD account pool that will show up on every character. if you have anything in account pool sales will pull from that before your character amount.

    would be nice if they just let people deposit/withdraw into account pool or just made AD account wide. would save a lot of hassle.
  • seanna2000seanna2000 Member Posts: 45
    edited May 2014
    frishter wrote: »
    The thing is when youre a fresh level 60. You will get your HAMSTER kicked. You should really be able to play against others around your gear level but that's far from the case and some people will even blame that person rather that it being the queue system. That hampers the enjoyment on that individual and it hampers the enjoyment on their team.

    I agree with there being no reason to share AD across toons though via the bank even if there is still a way to do it. Trade bars too would be nice.

    "I agree with there being no reason to share AD across toons though via the bank even if there is still a way to do it. Trade bars too would be nice."

    Truth is, it would only require very little coding to allow it if they have done their programming the correct way. I see no reason why it cannot be implemented within less than 2 days.
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    seanna2000 wrote: »
    "I agree with there being no reason to share AD across toons though via the bank even if there is still a way to do it. Trade bars too would be nice."

    Truth is, it would only require very little coding to allow it if they have done their programming the correct way. I see no reason why it cannot be implemented within less than 2 days.

    Sorry I meant no reason not to. Isn't it great when you forget the crucial word and make the opposite point you were trying to make.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited May 2014
    About transferring AD between you characters on the same account, from the Official Extended FAQ Sticky:
    zebular wrote: »
    After I claim the Astral Diamonds, can I transfer them to another player?
    . . . When claimed on your character, no - they are bound to you. However, you can use the AD Exchange to transfer them to another character on the same account and Shard. To do this, you first need to open up the Astral Diamond Exchange (The Gem Icon on the Menu Bar) and then you will need to place an offer to Buy Zen for Astral Diamonds (in effect, selling your ADs - you'll most likely want to place an offer for the lowest value so it's not sold. 50 is the lowest for ADs). Immediately after placing the Listing, cancel the Listing on your active trades tab. This will then place those Astral Diamonds into an Exchange Pool.

    . . . You can then log out of that character and log in with a different character and go into the Exchange and claim them from your Exchange Pool. You cannot transfer Astral Diamonds across Shards however, as each Shard has it's own Astral Diamond Exchange and Auction Houses. You can only place refined Astral Diamonds into the Exchange.

    . . . You cannot give or transfer ADs between accounts or other players. To gain ADs from others, you must either use the Astral Diamond Exchange to buy or sell Astral Diamonds or use the Auction House to sell or buy wares for Astral Diamonds. You can however make small donations to Foundry Authors upon completing one of their Foundry Missions when you rate and review it.
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    zebular wrote: »
    About transferring AD between you characters on the same account, from the Official Extended FAQ Sticky:

    Have you tried this with 10+ characters? Canceling, reclaiming, popping in new numbers to post, cancel, reclaim, pop in a new bigger number.

    Uh oh, you have reached the Zen limit! Time to jump to another character again. It is very time consuming.
  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ghoulz66 wrote: »
    Have you tried this with 10+ characters? Canceling, reclaiming, popping in new numbers to post, cancel, reclaim, pop in a new bigger number.

    Uh oh, you have reached the Zen limit! Time to jump to another character again. It is very time consuming.

    Not if you do it from the gateway. Its very simple and quick.

    Id rather not loose that option just so it can be added to the account bank. Now if they could add banking and item transfers to the gateway. Then that would be something I would be interested in.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited May 2014
    ghoulz66 wrote: »
    Have you tried this with 10+ characters? Canceling, reclaiming, popping in new numbers to post, cancel, reclaim, pop in a new bigger number.

    Uh oh, you have reached the Zen limit! Time to jump to another character again. It is very time consuming.
    Yep, I have 15 characters. Takes me less than a minute on each to deposit. Then, as Sock mentioned, you can use the gateway instead.
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